I did a little better on the 06 PP V6 which I custom ordered and got
for invoice.  The key was to go to a small-town dealer that was at
least an hour away from a major city.  With the lower volumes these
guys are dealing in coupled with end-of-month and end-of-year quotas,
they are a lot more compliant that their big city counterparts.  Of
course it also helps to walk in with a folder full of research data
from the internet.

It's a little bit of a drive for the buyer, but those smaller dealers
really want/need the business.

I have been dealing with the same dealership for about 15 years,
walked in last year in March  2004, (after coming back from the
Detroit Auto Show)  told the owner I wanted to order a new Mustang, he
said, "Sure, when"  I told him now, he almost crapped his pants,
couldnt even get the pricing guides until August 2004.  At any rate,
to make a long story short, bought my 2005 Stang GT for 250 over his
invoice (yeah right)  LOL  At any rate, got a good deal, and I had the
first 2005 Mustang in town.  I might point out that a couple of years
before that, my wife wanted a new Explorer, went into that same
dealership, she got the runaround from the sales force.  I told them
if they didn't deal, I'd go elsewhere,  They didn't deal, I went
across town, bought her new Eddy Bauer Explorer, and the first stop
was at my original dealer, parked in front, went inside, got the
owner, took him outside to see my new car.  He fired the sales manager
that afternoon.  Sometimes it pays to be bold,  don't wait for the
sales guy to see you in WalMart,  next time, take your new truck to
his boss,  I bet he won't be so "greedy" next time  <wink>  :))