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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / January 2006

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Concensus on the 4.6 engine

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Dan J.S. - 14 Jan 2006 19:02 GMT
I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to keep
and hand down to my son 20 years from now. How is the 4.6 engine? Is it
reliable? Is there anything on the horizon that I should wait for? I am
really not too familiar with domestic brands, so any insight would be great!
Michael Johnson, PE - 14 Jan 2006 19:38 GMT
> I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
> plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to keep
> and hand down to my son 20 years from now. How is the 4.6 engine? Is it
> reliable? Is there anything on the horizon that I should wait for? I am
> really not too familiar with domestic brands, so any insight would be great!

IMO, it is every bit as reliable as the 302 it replaced.  In many ways
it is even better and more durable.
Kruse - 14 Jan 2006 20:17 GMT
> IMO, it is every bit as reliable as the 302 it replaced.  In many ways
> it is even better and more durable.

Especially when you compare oil leaks......
Michael Johnson, PE - 15 Jan 2006 07:25 GMT
>> IMO, it is every bit as reliable as the 302 it replaced.  In many ways
>> it is even better and more durable.
>
> Especially when you compare oil leaks......

...and overall block strength.
Dan - 14 Jan 2006 19:49 GMT
The 4.6 Modular is a very nice motor; it's very durable and very
reliable. The SOHC 2V 4.6 has been in fleet service in the Crown Vic
since 1992 and it's got a pretty good reputation in that arena with
vehicles that put on hundreds of thousands of miles per year. The DOHC
4V 4.6 has been in the Lincoln Town Car since 1993. Both motors have
been in the Mustang since 1996.

The current SOHC 3V is different up top (variable valve timing, 3
valves per cylinder) but the same motor down low. However, obviously,
no one can tell you about their 20 year old mod motor'd Ford :). I can,
though, tell you that I know cops that have put 250,000 on their CV's
and they were still happy with their cars when they turned them in. And
I know several Mustangs with SOHC and DOHC with 120,000 miles and they
are still running very well.

There's not much on the horizon for Mustang. The new VVT, 3V V8 motor
is the latest of the Ford Modular line. The upcoming SVT Shelby GT500
will be using a supercharged DOHC 4V 5.4 motor, essentially a cast iron
block verion of the Ford GT motor. The current Mustang also has a new
V6 but I don't know as much about it.

Dan
2003 Cobra convertible
With some stuff and things
351CJ - 15 Jan 2006 05:02 GMT
> The 4.6 Modular is a very nice motor; it's very durable and very
> reliable. The SOHC 2V 4.6 has been in fleet service in the Crown Vic
> since 1992 and it's got a pretty good reputation in that arena with
> vehicles that put on hundreds of thousands of miles per year. The DOHC
> 4V 4.6 has been in the Lincoln Town Car since 1993. Both motors have
> been in the Mustang since 1996.

1991 Lincoln Town Cars had the 4.6, my dad bought one new in 1991...
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/8031.shtml

> The current SOHC 3V is different up top (variable valve timing, 3
> valves per cylinder) but the same motor down low. However, obviously,
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> 2003 Cobra convertible
> With some stuff and things
Dan - 15 Jan 2006 18:06 GMT
My bad. I totally gaffed that and I've been re-educated. The LTC
actually came with the SOHC starting in '91. The DOHC showed up in '93
in the Mark VIII and then in the Continental in '95.

Dan
2003 Cobra convertible
With some stuff and things.
Wound Up - 15 Jan 2006 03:01 GMT
an J.S. wrote:
> I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
> plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to keep
> and hand down to my son 20 years from now. How is the 4.6 engine? Is it
> reliable? Is there anything on the horizon that I should wait for? I am
> really not too familiar with domestic brands, so any insight would be great!

I've heard many sing its praises.  The SOHC 4.6 version in the last cab
we took home from bar night had 315,000 on it.  The guy bought the car
new rather than get a used police interceptor, took care for it, and
said it was just starting to show signs of being tired.  The second
tranny he had in the car seemed a little sloppy, but what do you want?
He bought the civilian Vic new for better mileage, and so he would know
how it had been treated.  He knew people who got half a million out of
both the hard-driven PI and civilian Vic motors.  I think the PI has the
5.4-liter modular.  I got phone numbers for used cop car dealers from
him, since I am considering the Vic, Marquis or the PI to replace my 2.3
Tempo with 201,000 on the untouched longblock... still getting 28-30 mpg.

I'm sure many others in this group can attest to both the SOHC and DOHC
versions of the 4.6 having taken many hard miles and not having given
them problems.

Many were and still are enamoured with the old pushrod 302 and 5.0
engines and rightfully so; both the early 302 and roller-cam "5.0" was
undoubtedly one of the best motors Ford ever made.  But I've never heard
angry screaming about the 4.6 that replaced it... I heard skepticism
from Mustang fans 10 years ago, but that's only natural.  Thankfully, it
doesn't seem it was actually warranted.

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351CJ - 15 Jan 2006 05:11 GMT
> an J.S. wrote:
>> I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
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> hard-driven PI and civilian Vic motors.  I think the PI has the 5.4-liter
> modular.

The police Crown Victoria has a 4.6 not a 5.4.

2005 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor Engine - 4.6L 250-hp SEFI V8 with
overhead cam
https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/2005fleetshowroom/2005-CrVicPoliceInt.asp

2005-2006 Crown Victoria LX Sport 239-hp @4,900
Sequential electronic fuel injection
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/crownvictoria/features/specs/

There is only 11 hp difference, and the LX Sport has a heavy duty sport
suspension and brakes too.

> I got phone numbers for used cop car dealers from him, since I am
> considering the Vic, Marquis or the PI to replace my 2.3 Tempo with
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> Mustang fans 10 years ago, but that's only natural.  Thankfully, it
> doesn't seem it was actually warranted.
Wound Up - 15 Jan 2006 18:37 GMT
(snip)

I think the PI has the 5.4-liter
>>modular.
>
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> There is only 11 hp difference, and the LX Sport has a heavy duty sport
> suspension and brakes too.

Thanks for clarifying this.  I will have to remember that about the LX
Sport; I wasn't sure what that meant in practical terms.  I am now
wondering about the Marquis GS, maybe it's similarly equipped...

Fast Ed in the BB group advised to get a post-98 model of either one,
because the brakes were marginal on earlier years.

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Itsfrom Click - 15 Jan 2006 13:45 GMT
as others have noted, there are so many different versions of the 4.6
it's hard to project the long-term prospects of the "stang GT version.

I'm no gearhead, but based my purchase of one on a process of
elimination:

 no more front-drive (one Chrysler was enuff - so that eliminated most
affordable new cars).

 both 'stang engines hsve timing chains, not a belt.

 I'm not wild about aluminum engines, but trust the V8 as block and
heads are aluminum......I believe the 6 is iron/aluminum......and I've
always had head gasket, leak problems on "bi-metal" engines  I hope Ford
isn't using as many plastic engine parts (like GM).

 Finally, hoping the EPA figures are at least relative if not
realistic......the 8 is rated as getting only 1 mpg or so less than the
6, so based on the few thousand miles a year I plan on driving it, guel
cost wasn't a consideration.  ('though insurance cost may turn out to
be!!!)
Kruse - 15 Jan 2006 15:21 GMT
> I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
> plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to keep
> and hand down to my son 20 years from now. How is the 4.6 engine? Is it
> reliable? Is there anything on the horizon that I should wait for? I am
> really not too familiar with domestic brands, so any insight would be great!

FWIW.
I'll add one more post to this thread and I'll probably shut up. If
there is one thing
that the COP (coil over plug) engines have that is somewhat
troublesome, it's the coil.
If you take it to the dealer to have it replaced, it's about $100 per
coil. Aftermarkets may
be cheaper. The irony to all this is that it's usually not the coil
that fails, it's the spark plug
boot. You can get replacement spark plug boots pretty cheap and that
usually fixes the
problem. The 4.6 modular engines came with or without the COP setups.
My $.02 worth.

BTW, by your post you obviously drive foreign brands and you are now
looking at a domestic. What made you look? (Just curious)
Dan J.S. - 15 Jan 2006 21:55 GMT
>> I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
>> plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to
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> BTW, by your post you obviously drive foreign brands and you are now
> looking at a domestic. What made you look? (Just curious)

Hi!  Thanks to all that answered. I used to drive domestics, and had a lot
of problems, trips to the dealer, etc. This was in the 80s. I started down
the Toyota brand for 15+ years. No problems, very reliable cars, but
needless to say, very boring cars. I looked at the 350Z and the BMW m3, but
I was missing that American muscle car feeling. When I saw the new Dodge
Charger (aka Magnum Coupe)I fell in love with it, until I saw the back end.
The new Challenger won't happen for a while, and I think Ford is making
great product. The new mustang is great looking too.

BTW I was going to bite the bullet and buy a new Vette - but each test drive
it felt like I was riding on rails. The Mustang feels so much more refined
than the Vette - which was somewhat surprising. My problem now is finding a
convertible GT with a manual tranny.
Zombywoof - 16 Jan 2006 16:22 GMT
>>> I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
>>> plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to
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>than the Vette - which was somewhat surprising. My problem now is finding a
>convertible GT with a manual tranny.

Gee I always thought the term "feels like it’s riding on rails" was a
good thing :)
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JohnH - 16 Jan 2006 16:54 GMT
>>> I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
>>> plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to
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>>> really not too familiar with domestic brands, so any insight would be
>>> great!

Dan, I'm no mechanic type guy and bought my '05 GT for the same reason you
did. (Grandson instead of son.).

I bought it as a 2005 Christmas present for myself, and use it only on
'nice' weekends. Only 5000 miles on it in 13 months.

I love it. No engine problems. It runs like a top. Don't know what the long
term looks like, but I love it now!

Mine is the coupe, as we had a convertible (not Mustang) once and I'll
never have another.
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Backyard Mechanic - 15 Jan 2006 21:58 GMT
> I'll add one more post to this thread and I'll probably shut up. If
> there is one thing
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> BTW, by your post you obviously drive foreign brands and you are now
> looking at a domestic. What made you look? (Just curious)

Mebbe his last car was a Passat or Audi something and he figgered if he was
gonna have 'coil problems' might as well havem in something that was a real
hoot to drive...

;)

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RT - 20 Jan 2006 16:49 GMT
>I am looking at the 2006 Mustang GT convertible. This is something that I
>plan on using only on weekends and for fun - something that I want to keep
>and hand down to my son 20 years from now. How is the 4.6 engine? Is it
>reliable? Is there anything on the horizon that I should wait for? I am
>really not too familiar with domestic brands, so any insight would be great!

They are reliable but nobody can tell yet what the new heads on these
engines will do. Part of the outcome will be how you treat it. regular
oil changes, taking it easy on the engine until fully warmed up, etc
etc.
 
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