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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / January 2006Out of step...
Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even SAT in a new Mustang. Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a Mustang newer than 1993. But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off from work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a Ford dealer's lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a look-see. I thought, if they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well have a seat and try one on for size. I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for me) and then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure enough, some kid drone comes out of the building and hails me. His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told him that I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I understand. I had a 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it was a '97. Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover to the 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.) We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I mentioned that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to see the new blue for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it was sold right away.") No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah, we have one on order.") Um, no, Sonic Blue isn't an option this year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm dying to see it.) Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot more. I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the Escape will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new model. Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit in a new Mustang. dwight 1993 Time Warp > Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even > SAT in a new Mustang. Cripes, it's been 15 years for me... has it? Yes! What the hell happened? Oh ... right, in late '95, I got cantankerous old beast #1 =) > Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a Mustang > newer than 1993. I can still only say '91. > But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off from > work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a Ford dealer's [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I understand. I had a > 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it was a '97. D'OH idiot alert WHOOP WHOOP WHOOOOOP!! > Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover to the > 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.) Did he then viciously stomp on his own foot, and laugh in tears of pain like the idiot he was? > We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I mentioned > that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to see the new blue [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot > more. At this point, I would not have been able to stifle mocking him. I would have walked away laughing. If I'd been quick on the trigger that day, I would have said something like "yeah, and setting the points on '95 and up 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?" > I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone > tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the Escape > will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new model. > > Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit in a > new Mustang. I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars. Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that. His empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.  SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk >> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last >> even SAT in a new Mustang. > > Cripes, it's been 15 years for me... has it? Yes! What the hell > happened? Oh ... right, in late '95, I got cantankerous old beast #1 > =) I've sat in new ones, but I've never ridden in (let alone driven) a newer one than my own. >> Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a >> Mustang newer than 1993. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > D'OH idiot alert WHOOP WHOOP WHOOOOOP!! LOL! >> Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover >> to the 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.) > > Did he then viciously stomp on his own foot, and laugh in tears of > pain like the idiot he was? Sounds like he needed a swat to the head with one of those rusty camshafts. >> We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I >> mentioned that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to >> see the new blue for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it >> was sold right away.") No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah, >> we have one on order.") Um, no, Sonic Blue isn't an option this >> year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm dying to see it.) Wow. Talking colors instead of performance. How sweet. ;) >> Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he >> said that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that day, I would have said something like "yeah, and setting the > points on '95 and up 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?" How about something simple like "Blow me, moron."? >> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which >> drone tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did >> sit in a new Mustang. dwight, do it at the next car show and avoid the droids. > I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp > should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars. The Freestyle is based on the XC90: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/ > Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that. > His empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm. Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is much better for direct comparisons. >>> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last >>> even SAT in a new Mustang. > dwight, do it at the next car show and avoid the droids. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is much > better for direct comparisons. You're probably right, Joe. Okay, you're right. If I don't manage to have a sit-down in a new Mustang by Spring, I'll be at a couple of shows. The Philadelphia Auto Show is February 4 - 12, and I'll see about getting Jean down there to look at the Freestyle and other assorted choices. She loves the Escape, but it's getting more and more trucklike. I think she'll be interested in the new trend toward CUVs... If we get there early enough, I may get a chance to actually sit in the Mustang. dwight >>>> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I >>>> last even SAT in a new Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > getting more and more trucklike. I think she'll be interested in the > new trend toward CUVs... Has the Escape really changed that much? I thought it was basically the same as before, but what do I know about lil' FWDrivers? > If we get there early enough, I may get a chance to actually sit in > the Mustang. > > dwight Even if there's a crowd around the Mustang (which there shouldn't be at this point), get in line and sit in one. They're neat. And while you're at the show, check out the concepts from everybody. I'll be waiting for the FrogReport. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC >> If I don't manage to have a sit-down in a new Mustang by Spring, I'll >> be at a couple of shows. The Philadelphia Auto Show is February 4 - [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Has the Escape really changed that much? I thought it was basically the > same as before, but what do I know about lil' FWDrivers? No, it's still the same Escape (2004 model). Optional 4WD with a flip of a switch, but basically FWD most of the time. But there's no mistaking that it's a truck. >> If we get there early enough, I may get a chance to actually sit in >> the Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC You got it. With pictures dwight >>> If I don't manage to have a sit-down in a new Mustang by Spring, >>> I'll be at a couple of shows. The Philadelphia Auto Show is February [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > of a switch, but basically FWD most of the time. But there's no > mistaking that it's a truck. Hmm, we may have different concepts of what a 'truck' is. One of my neighbors has an older Escape (looks just like the current one) which she let me take 'round the block, and it felt like a regular FWD car except you sat higher. Even though my Dakota is lowered and has a "sport suspension", it definitely rides like a "truck". That Escape I drove felt absolutely car-like compared to the Dak. >>> If we get there early enough, I may get a chance to actually sit in >>> the Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > dwight Very good. Looking forward to it. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC >>>Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last >>>even SAT in a new Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've sat in new ones, but I've never ridden in (let alone driven) a > newer one than my own. I want to do like Stu did, rent one, and put the boots to it. >>>Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a >>>Mustang newer than 1993. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Sounds like he needed a swat to the head with one of those rusty > camshafts. In his case, a four-sectional rusty cam -staff- fashioned out of 4.6 DOHC cams. >>>We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I >>>mentioned that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wow. Talking colors instead of performance. How sweet. ;) Really. PRETTY COLORS, huh? Moron! >>>Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he >>>said that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > How about something simple like "Blow me, moron."? Simple, but elegant. As you know, I tend to be wordy. I do need to work on that. >>>I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which >>>drone tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is much > better for direct comparisons. Yes. And there are usually pretty girls flitting about in cute little outfits near the zoomy cars, which are much better than the "I know the brochure real good" idiots. SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in news:43CC6A03.9020002 @your.disposal: >>>>Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last >>>>even SAT in a new Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I want to do like Stu did, rent one, and put the boots to it. Good idea. A rental is a pretty good way to check it out. Your time is your own and you don't have the droid bothering you. >>>>Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a >>>>Mustang newer than 1993. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > In his case, a four-sectional rusty cam -staff- fashioned out of 4.6 > DOHC cams. I dunno, a nice big fat one from a 460 might make more of an impact. Literally. >>>>We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I >>>>mentioned that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Simple, but elegant. As you know, I tend to be wordy. I do need to > work on that. I think both styles have their places. >>>>I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which >>>>drone tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > outfits near the zoomy cars, which are much better than the "I know the > brochure real good" idiots. Great point. If you have to deal with droids, much better to deal with those kind. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in news:43CC6A03.9020002 > @your.disposal: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Good idea. A rental is a pretty good way to check it out. Your time is > your own and you don't have the droid bothering you. Jean's pressing me to go to Phoenix with her in April (business trip). She's baiting me, saying we can rent a Mustang there. Looks like I can book a Mustang convertible, but it's probably a six and definitely an automatic. Still... Looks like I'm goin' to Phoenix. :() >> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in news:43CC6A03.9020002 >> @your.disposal: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >:() I'd take that bait in a second. ;) >> Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said >> that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > would have said something like "yeah, and setting the points on '95 and up > 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?" I couldn't help myself. I laughed out loud in his face. It's bad enough to lie, bad enough to argue about the lie, but then to backtrack and give me the old "just kidding" line, I couldn't help it. And that laugh told him just how much I thought of his Mustang smarts. >> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone >> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that. His > empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm. Well, there's no stinkin' way that I'm buying a car from an idiot like that, when I'm ready to buy. I spent 20 years in sales, myself, and my number one rule was always "Know your product." He's not worth the commission or my time. dwight >>>Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said >>>that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the old "just kidding" line, I couldn't help it. And that laugh told him > just how much I thought of his Mustang smarts. Good for you! What a maroon, this guy. >>>I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone >>>tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > rule was always "Know your product." He's not worth the commission or my > time. You're 100% right. I sincerely hope he at least learned something that day. People who buy these cars... know these cars... SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk > I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone > tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the Escape > will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new model. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/ "The Freestyle is the most important derivative of the vehicle architecture Ford has borrowed from Volvo, a carlike crossover sport-ute that arrives just in ..." http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/02/22/000751.html "For the Freestyle is built on the same platform as the Five Hundred and so could logically be thought of as the Five Hundred wagon, but the two cars use no common sheetmetal. The Freestyle's styling cues are unmistakably Ford SUV, but even a few minutes behind the wheel reveals it to most definitely not be any sort of truck. It fits into that nebulous catch-all category of ``crossover vehicle.'' In the Ford extended family, the vehicle closest to the Freestyle in intent and execution is the Volvo XC70." Signature"So the new (h)(1)(C) overrides the old exclusion in (h)(1)(B) for the purposes of (a)(1)(C) only, thereby applying (a)(1)(C) to anything that could have been sent via the Internet (possibly even if it wasn't)." - U.S. Legislature >> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone >> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the vehicle closest to the Freestyle in intent and execution is the Volvo > XC70." Thanks for that! I think it's a good-looking vehicle, and this makes it sound better for Jean, too. She still talks fondly of our old '84 Chevy Cavalier station wagon - all glass, no blocked sight lines. The Freestyle looks like a station wagon that sits up high like a sport ute, only better. dwight > But I'm still intrigued by the new model. The new Mustang completely won me over with the first concept pics and I still feel the same way about it today. As soon as I can afford a new GT... -- Mark '99 Civic Si ********** For those who don't know/remember me, I'm not a ricer (IMO) so no flames please. Except for Joe, who once wanted to run over me. LOL! ;-) That is, if the Joe in this thread is the same Joe I remember, a ZZ Top fan. My Civic (pics taken 6 months ago)... http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture%20001.jpg http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture%20004.jpg http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture%20007.jpg http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture%20010.jpg Still bone stock. License plate now reads, "RSH 2112". Those of you who do remember me, hi. ;-) >> But I'm still intrigued by the new model. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Those of you who do remember me, hi. ;-) Nice to see you've still got that car. You're in danger of becoming a Honda dinosaur! I'd still like to eventually order in a GT convertible to replace CFrog. Now that I finally have a garage... dwight www.tfrog93.com It's old home week on ramfm. Joe beat me to it, the car show suggestion. If Philly's is yet to come, you should go. (You might see T.O. moonlighting as a spokesmodel on one of those turntables. Or D. McN? (Didn't one of them retire midseason?)) My wife, one daughter, and I went to the SF version on Thanksgiving night. I really enjoy getting to park my rear in all the high end brands without interruption by perspiring faux friendly sales personnel. (No offense to sales droids; it's a tough racket and somebody's gotta do it.) I cam away almost believing a VW could be worth $80,000, and also that a BMW 7-whatever could not. 180 Out one80out@hotmail.com wrote in news:1137512712.609773.61000 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > It's old home week on ramfm. There ya go. Wonder who else is lurking around.. > Joe beat me to it, the car show suggestion. If Philly's is yet to > come, you should go. (You might see T.O. moonlighting as a spokesmodel [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > personnel. (No offense to sales droids; it's a tough racket and > somebody's gotta do it.) Actually, I've been wondering about that. Why can't cars be sold like clothes or groceries? > I cam away almost believing a VW could be > worth $80,000, and also that a BMW 7-whatever could not. > > 180 Out Yah, it's amazing what's happened to the auto industry. Cheap-a.s Bimmers, Posh (but still cheep) VWs, Ford junk bonds, GM teetering on the brink, etc. What's next? Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC >>> But I'm still intrigued by the new model. >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >dwight >www.tfrog93.com Dwight, Im new here, been looking over your website, and after reading a couple of your "rants" about aggressive drivers, etc. I tend to agree more than I realized with your thoughts... Now, while I'm complimenting you, don't go getting the "big head" After all, you've got that 12 year old 'stang to consider.... I'm sorry you didn't get a chance to sit in a new one <yet> but it'll happen... If I lived closer to you, you could sit in mine, but just don't ask to take it for a drive... <wink> You know how it is with those special cars. I graduated from high school the same year mustangs came out, and back then, it was all I could do to just dream of owning one. Then, by the time I could afford $1900, along came a wife and kids, there went that, as you say, for the FWD minivan <sigh> Well, the last kid finished college about 5 years ago, and I've owned a 'stang since 1998. The first one was a 6, I learned the hard way, all the rest have been GT's. Like you, I'll always ( I hope) own one and it's my link to those good old days back when money was the only thing stopping me from my dream... Now, that "ain't no reason not to have fun" so.... I bought the first 05 GT in Alexandria, LA. took possession of it on October 18, 2005 and, yup, It's redfire clearcoat metallic with light gray leather interior... I haven't really pushed it past my limits yet, but it does have a way of getting a little faster than intended at times... Just wanted to let you know I enjoyed your website and that there are other "old farts" out here who feel much the same way as you :) Have a great one, John > Dwight, > > Im new here, been looking over your website, and after reading a > couple of your "rants" about aggressive drivers, etc. I tend to agree > more than I realized with your thoughts... You know how annoying ex-smokers can be about second hand smoke? That's me, with aggressive driving. In my younger days, I was a nut case. > Now, while I'm complimenting you, don't go getting the "big head" Too late. > After all, you've got that 12 year old 'stang to consider.... Two of them, actually. > I'm sorry you didn't get a chance to sit in a new one <yet> but > it'll happen... If I lived closer to you, you could sit in mine, but just > don't ask to take it for a drive... <wink> You know how it is with > those special cars. I know that only my mechanics have driven MY car, other than me. (Okay, I let Jean try it out when it was new, but luckily she didn't care for it.) And don't feel sorry for me - it's just that I recently realized that I'd never been inside another Mustang. It's not a bad thing, just something that occurred to me. With my fascination with my own cars, I never missed it until now, but with the new Mustang a-callin' to me, I figure it's high time I tried one on for size. > I graduated from high school the same year mustangs came out, and > back then, it was all I could do to just dream of owning one. Then, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > link to those good old days back when money was the only thing > stopping me from my dream... I've been fairly lucky. Other than a very early mistake with a Pinto, I've owned Mustangs almost all of my adult life. When the kids were little, they fit very well in the back of our Mustang II hatchback. When they were too big for the Mustang's back seat, we had a 2nd car in the family that could accomodate all four of us. I've had a couple of bikes in there, and spent a year in purgatory (that '84 Cavalier station wagon) because I'd had too much fun with my Mustang - three speeding tickets in the year and a huge penalty on insurance. But I was back in a Mustang as soon as possible. > Now, that "ain't no reason not to have fun" so.... I bought the first > 05 GT in Alexandria, LA. took possession of it on October 18, 2005 > and, yup, It's redfire clearcoat metallic with light gray leather > interior... Sweet... > I haven't really pushed it past my limits yet, but it does have a way > of getting a little faster than intended at times... Just wanted to let [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > John Thanks, John. I expect to report back on the '06 within the month. Since we moved last May, I now have a lovely two-car garage that just CRIES OUT for a new Mustang convertible (to replace the Mustang convertible that's currently sitting there). dwight >> I'm sorry you didn't get a chance to sit in a new one <yet> but >> it'll happen... If I lived closer to you, you could sit in mine, but just [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I know that only my mechanics have driven MY car, other than me. (Okay, I > let Jean try it out when it was new, but luckily she didn't care for it.) Same for me. Since I took possession of V6stang, I can count on one hand the number of people who have driven it, and they're all either a parent or a (real) mechanic. > And don't feel sorry for me - it's just that I recently realized that I'd > never been inside another Mustang. It's not a bad thing, just something that > occurred to me. With my fascination with my own cars, I never missed it > until now, but with the new Mustang a-callin' to me, I figure it's high time > I tried one on for size. You should; they're verrrry nice. Until 1999, I had never ridden in a Mustang newer than my '83. I wasn't too impressed with the back seat of a '95 GT. Until this fall, I had never driven a Mustang newer than my '83. I was *very* impressed with the driver's seat of my cousin's '03 GT. :) I've also recently ridden shotgun in an '05 V6, and I was definitely impressed. I tell you: they've come a long way from my early FOX. <brevity snip> > Thanks, John. I expect to report back on the '06 within the month. Since we > moved last May, I now have a lovely two-car garage that just CRIES OUT for a > new Mustang convertible (to replace the Mustang convertible that's currently > sitting there). Doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit! :) I'm itching for a hardtop GT myself, preferably in Vista Blue (or the new "Windveil Sonic" Blue, as your young salesdroid would say), which should match V6stang's color nicely. :) Signature/ Garth - '83 GL V6stang Hatch <Former MW #7> \ | My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang | | RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm | \ ~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~ / Sounds like Brian Hoskins Ford to me :-) Dave > Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even > SAT in a new Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > dwight > 1993 Time Warp > Sounds like Brian Hoskins Ford to me :-) > > Dave Yup. :() >> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even >> SAT in a new Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> dwight >> 1993 Time Warp > Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even > SAT in a new Mustang. Believe me, your not doing too bad. Until 2 months ago, I had *never* been in a new mustang. Worse than that, I hadn't even sat in a used one since 1989. Does that make me born again? I wouldn't have called myself a mustang atheist, but I just didn't think the car was practical for a daily driver and I thought the 1975 to pre-2005's were rather ugly. It's still not really practical as a daily driver, but it sure is fun. >> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even >> SAT in a new Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ugly. It's still not really practical as a daily driver, but it sure > is fun. "Practical for a daily driver"? I don't know what that means... If you're looking at automobiles as a mode of transportation, the Mustang is as good as anything else. Hell, I used to argue that it was better, because I could get where I was going just a little bit quicker. The problem is that a run to the local convenience store for milk usually takes about an hour, since I would always take "the long way home." dwight > >> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even > >> SAT in a new Mustang. [...] > > one since 1989. Does that make me born again? I wouldn't have called > > myself a mustang atheist, but I just didn't think the car was practical [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > "Practical for a daily driver"? I don't know what that means... I guess if you can put up with: passenger complaints the back seat is almost non-existant; having to park in the back of the lot to make sure you have enough room to open the doors(or like getting in/out via the windows); and you don't ever want to put large objects into the trunk, you could say it's practical. On that last point, the tail lights tend to restrict the size of the opening for the trunk somewhat. It's minor, but I do sometimes wish they had engineered it so the lights were attached to the trunk lid. Oh well - I do know it's not a station wagon or an explorer. If it's just me, those things are mostly a non-issue. When I want to transport more than just myself, I'd rather use a different car. > If you're looking at automobiles as a mode of transportation, the Mustang is > as good as anything else. Hell, I used to argue that it was better, because > I could get where I was going just a little bit quicker. > > The problem is that a run to the local convenience store for milk usually > takes about an hour, since I would always take "the long way home." I know what you mean. I'm never in a hurry to get somewhere when I'm driving that car. >> "Practical for a daily driver"? I don't know what that means... > > I guess if you can put up with: > passenger complaints the back seat is almost non-existant; ...and driving with the seat pushed up, so your knees are crushing the steering wheel. > having to park in the back of the lot to make sure you have enough > room to open the doors(or like getting in/out via the windows); I always park in the nether reaches of lots. I don't want other cars near mine, and the walk does me good. > and you don't ever want to put large objects into the trunk, you > could say it's practical. I have a hatchback. "The ultimate SUV." * I've had a large oak desk back there, a water heater, a 32" TV, and a host of other huge items. (Sunny days only, please.) I also have a convertible, so the sky's the limit. * NoOp Patrick > On that last point, the tail lights tend to restrict the size of the > opening for the trunk somewhat. It's minor, but I do sometimes wish > they had engineered it so the lights were attached to the trunk lid. > Oh well - I do know it's not a station wagon or an explorer. I've always put up with the Mustang's "shortcomings" gladly. Because, once I drop off passengers or cargo and it's all mine, it makes everything else worthwhile. > If it's just me, those things are mostly a non-issue. When I want to > transport more than just myself, I'd rather use a different car. I find myself apologizing to first-time passengers a lot. My suspension is very tight, and most folks aren't used to feeling everything in the road. I just took my wife out shopping again the other day, but dialed up the softest ride I could (Konis); she was appreciative. But I forgot to dial it back afterwards, and it felt like the front end of the car was floating. Setting it back to a firm ride reminded me of how different it must feel to people who are used to that nice, soft, cushy ride most new cars have... >> The problem is that a run to the local convenience store for milk usually >> takes about an hour, since I would always take "the long way home." > > I know what you mean. I'm never in a hurry to get somewhere when I'm > driving that car. TFrog just topped 190,000 miles and will be getting a new set of tires tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to breaking them in. 12 years, 190,000 miles, and I still love to drive that car. Sure, it's impractical in some cases, if impractical is a 302 cubic inch V8 and a 5-speed stuck in rush hour crawl, but the weekend romps more than make up for it. I've always said that I'd rather be in a Mustang, driving 10 feet at a time in bumper to bumper traffic, than just about any other car. dwight >>> "Practical for a daily driver"? I don't know what that means... >> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > dwight dwight, as you and I both know, there's no need to justify our choice of vehicles to anyone. Eff 'em if they don't like the car - end of story. Of course, I'll assume all pontificating is simply bragging rights, and well deserved at that. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC >Sure, it's impractical in some cases, if impractical is a 302 cubic >>inch V8 and a 5-speed stuck in rush hour crawl, but the weekend romps [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Of course, I'll assume all pontificating is simply bragging rights, and > well deserved at that. Can I get an Amen, brother? A-MEN! No blasphemy is intended! But hybrids are still a joke! ;^) Respectfully yours, J, aka SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk >>Sure, it's impractical in some cases, if impractical is a 302 cubic >>>inch V8 and a 5-speed stuck in rush hour crawl, but the weekend romps [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Can I get an Amen, brother? A-MEN! No blasphemy is intended! A-Men. Not to be confused with G-Men. > But hybrids are still a joke! ;^) Indeed. The joke is on the suckers that buy them. > Respectfully yours, > > J, aka Respectfully? J, you're slipping. ;) > >>Sure, it's impractical in some cases, if impractical is a 302 cubic > >>>inch V8 and a 5-speed stuck in rush hour crawl, but the weekend romps [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > A-Men. Not to be confused with G-Men. Right! > > But hybrids are still a joke! ;^) > > Indeed. The joke is on the suckers that buy them. Right! Their smugness is so amusing. The guy at work is so proud of his overpriced Civic getting 49.9 mpg over 8000+ miles. Bite me, you're still losing. He's so smug. I tell him my old Mustang is better for the enironment, and he goes, "well, now just how is that" ever so sarcastically. He chose to believe his own BS because he's making payments on it. I didn't go for the jugular because I do like the guy. > > Respectfully yours, > > > > J, aka > > Respectfully? J, you're slipping. ;) I have purposefully backed down a bit in general, for my health. I respect people I believe to be genuine, thoughtful, and intelligent, even if they don't like me. Being real and not wearing a mask is brave. I cannot stand lying sacks, manipulators, disingenuous twerps and vacuous blowhards. I know what you're thinking. I'm not vacuous, just -- Wound Up TS #65 "Wound Up" <jello72@iwon.com> wrote in news:1138222341.095415.178240 @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >> >>Sure, it's impractical in some cases, if impractical is a 302 cubic >> >>>inch V8 and a 5-speed stuck in rush hour crawl, but the weekend romps [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > brave. I cannot stand lying sacks, manipulators, disingenuous twerps > and vacuous blowhards. Wow. Perhaps you shouldn't be reading this newsgroup... ;) > I know what you're thinking. I'm not vacuous, just > > -- > Wound Up > TS #65 Compared to many, you're Einstein. > "Wound Up" <jello72@iwon.com> wrote in news:1138222341.095415.178240 > @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Wow. Perhaps you shouldn't be reading this newsgroup... ;) Yes, and the logical inference that I must be a masochist is true =) > > I know what you're thinking. I'm not vacuous, just > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Compared to many, you're Einstein. Our society is getting dumber all the time, and at an alarming rate. It's not just sad, it's downright scary if you consider all the implications... -- Wound Up TS #65 "Wound Up" <jello72@iwon.com> wrote in news:1138304231.147895.273390 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: <snip> > Our society is getting dumber all the time, and at an alarming rate. > It's not just sad, it's downright scary if you consider all the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Wound Up > TS #65 Indeed. Just look at our president. Couldn't resist. ;) Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > "Wound Up" <jello72@iwon.com> wrote in news:1138304231.147895.273390 > @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC Read this gem: Bush explains Medicare Part D This quote is verbatim 'Because the -- all which is on the table begins > to address the big cost drivers. For example, how > benefits are calculated, for example, is on the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that > growth is affected, it will help on the red.' SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in news:43D98FE5.6050206 @your.disposal: >> "Wound Up" <jello72@iwon.com> wrote in news:1138304231.147895.273390 >> @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that > > growth is affected, it will help on the red.' Incredible. It's uncanny how people actually still believe in this guy. As Bugs Bunny says, "What a maroon!" > Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in news:43D98FE5.6050206 > @your.disposal: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Incredible. It's uncanny how people actually still believe in this guy. > As Bugs Bunny says, "What a maroon!" One of my favorite phrases of all time! And his recent jabber about Brokeback Mountain has been hysterical. I wish I knew what he was thinking when he said, "I hope you..." -- Wound Up "Wound Up" <jello72@iwon.com> wrote in news:1138671814.969703.144720 @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in news:43D98FE5.6050206 >> @your.disposal: [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > -- > Wound Up There was a spoof on that - can't remember where I saw it, but it was one of those cartoon cloud balloons above his head with something really funny in it. Wish I could remember, but most of the brain cells are long gone.. >> TFrog just topped 190,000 miles and will be getting a new set of tires >> tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to breaking them in. 12 years, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC I'm not justifying, just preaching to the choir. 190,000, Joe. By sometime around October, I should hit the 200,000 mark. :() "dwight" <tfrog93@gEEmail.com> wrote in news:GqmdnVTw-a6QW0reRVn- gw@comcast.com: >>> TFrog just topped 190,000 miles and will be getting a new set of tires >>> tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to breaking them in. 12 years, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > I'm not justifying, just preaching to the choir. True. > 190,000, Joe. By sometime around October, I should hit the 200,000 mark. > >:() You're way over me at this point. My LX sees limited action nowadays. My son drives it to school and back (~ 15 miles round trip), and all of 2 miles to work on the weekend. Just enough to keep it loose. I think it's got around 148k or so now.
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