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Windsor-Fox RIP OFF

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gcroix - 17 Jan 2006 17:13 GMT
Hello all,

   I ordered a custom made wiring harness for my 1966 Mustang from
WINDSOR-FOX, whom I thought was a reputable company in California. This
company, WINDSOR-FOX has been mentioned in articles in magazines and
websites, which led me to think they were good people. In September I sent
them a complete wiring harness from a newer car (value $300) and a money
order for $549. Several excuses and months later, I suspect I'm out the
money. I've contemplated telling the BBB in their area (Apple Valley, CA),
contacting a lawyer there, or contacting the local tv station/newspaper.
However, I don't think any of those will help my case. I've also thought
about contacting the company and telling them, "Look if you don't send my
$/part immediately, I'm going to (do all that)."  I can't afford to write
off $850, but I think I may have to. Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

GMC in GA
WindsorFox - 17 Jan 2006 22:03 GMT
> Hello all,
>
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>
> GMC in GA

    I have several suggestions. Instaed of ranting on Usenet, call them
onthe phone and speak to the owner. Do not threaten all that sillyshit,
cuz if it were me I'd blow you off right there. Do not rant. Explain
what your concerns are and you don't want to be out your money and
harness and you really need to know exactly what the situation is. If
someone is sick, or someone stuck your stuff on a shelf and forgot about
it for a month fine SAY so and lets get to it. If you're rude you'll
just piss him off and he has the upper hand at the moment, he's go t
your money. Also remember that no one in this group knows you from
Ronald McDonald and there is always two sides to a story.

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purposes of (a)(1)(C) only, thereby applying (a)(1)(C) to anything that
could have been sent via the Internet (possibly even if it wasn't)."  -
 U.S. Legislature

gcroix - 17 Jan 2006 22:21 GMT
>     I have several suggestions. Instaed of ranting on Usenet, call them
> onthe phone and speak to the owner. Do not threaten all that sillyshit,
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> remember that no one in this group knows you from Ronald McDonald and
> there is always two sides to a story.

Thanks for the reply.
Most of what you've said I've done.
Phone calls get no reponse.
Emails every 3 weeks or so get lame excuses.  I'm not ranting on Usenet, I'm
telling what has happened to me.  I wouldn't gotten so mad recently, but I
did a search on google, finally, and saw them using the exact same excuses
for delays to other people (literally, same excuses---family illnesses) a
year before me.
I know you don't me from Adam.  I was just seeing what others would do in my
shoes.
WindsorFox - 18 Jan 2006 03:44 GMT
> Thanks for the reply.
> Most of what you've said I've done.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I know you don't me from Adam.  I was just seeing what others would do in my
> shoes.

     I havn't seen many posts about them at all, but I've never seen a
complaint. "Phone calls got no response"  By that you mean they have not
called you back?? If so you have to keep calling until you get an
answer. Use a barrowed or pay phone to dicuise the number. Then move to
finding someone local to visit or have a lawyer send a letter.

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"So the new (h)(1)(C) overrides the old exclusion in (h)(1)(B) for the
purposes of (a)(1)(C) only, thereby applying (a)(1)(C) to anything that
could have been sent via the Internet (possibly even if it wasn't)."  -
 U.S. Legislature

KJ.Kate - 17 Jan 2006 23:32 GMT
By  'contemplating' calling the BBB then you have no chance of getting a
damn thing done.
You have to actually DO something.
I suggest, you gather up your paperwork, every scrap including
communications and make copies attach all of it to a letter stating your
complaint and your request for your parts or a refund immediately. Mark it
attention of Ed Marsh and send it registered with a return receipt
requested. Give a set time, say ten days in which you expect to receive some
resolution to your complaint and then explain that if it is not handled
within that time you will CC copies to the BBB and to all of their butt
buddies at the publications. Even a News 10 or whatever consumer hotline
sort of thing. Then, if you do not get satisfaction within the allotted time
follow through and send copies to every publication that pushes his company,
and every consumer organization that you can find.

Take some action, and take it soon. Don't just get all pissed off  and gripe
about it -DO SOMETHING

In the meantime we have a pretty good guy in this group that uses that nick,
maybe next time you could use a different topic, so as not to make it appear
as if you are disparaging him in some way.

KJKate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty

: Hello all,
:
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:
: GMC in GA
WindsorFox - 18 Jan 2006 03:44 GMT
> By  'contemplating' calling the BBB then you have no chance of getting a
> damn thing done.
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> KJKate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty

   Hey look, Kate knows the guy, maybe you can get her to call him. A
phone call he will never forget I'm sure....

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"So the new (h)(1)(C) overrides the old exclusion in (h)(1)(B) for the
purposes of (a)(1)(C) only, thereby applying (a)(1)(C) to anything that
could have been sent via the Internet (possibly even if it wasn't)."  -
 U.S. Legislature

KJ.Kate - 18 Jan 2006 16:08 GMT
:    Hey look, Kate knows the guy, maybe you can get her to call him. A
: phone call he will never forget I'm sure....

Look ya little sh.t....
don't make me stop this car!!!

KJK
351CJ - 18 Jan 2006 23:06 GMT
> :    Hey look, Kate knows the guy, maybe you can get her to call him. A
> : phone call he will never forget I'm sure....
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>
> KJK

Did you call your friend and get this straightened out yet Kate?
KJ.Kate - 19 Jan 2006 12:58 GMT
Hell no, it's not my job.

Trouble maker

KJK

: > :    Hey look, Kate knows the guy, maybe you can get her to call him. A
: > : phone call he will never forget I'm sure....
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:
: Did you call your friend and get this straightened out yet Kate?
WindsorFox - 19 Jan 2006 23:07 GMT
> Hell no, it's not my job.
>
> Trouble maker
>
> KJK

  Oh c'mon, the OP will buy you lunch if you fix it for him....

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"Why do you
insist on putting up with this piece of crap?"

Why?

Because, as I drove away, I shifted out of 2nd gear at 60. That's why.

dwight
www.tfrog93.com

KJ.Kate - 19 Jan 2006 23:20 GMT
: > Hell no, it's not my job.
: >
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:
:   Oh c'mon, the OP will buy you lunch if you fix it for him....

Ehm....
Lunch?

You think I'm that cheap huh?

Love your new sig >:¬Þ

KJK
WindsorFox - 21 Jan 2006 18:23 GMT
> : > Hell no, it's not my job.
> : >
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>
> KJK

    Depends on the place you go to :oP

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"Why do you
insist on putting up with this piece of crap?"

Why?

Because, as I drove away, I shifted out of 2nd gear at 60. That's why.

dwight
www.tfrog93.com

Wound Up - 09 Feb 2006 01:25 GMT
> : > Hell no, it's not my job.
> : >
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>
> Love your new sig >:¬Þ

My, what interesting symbols.  Is that last one a lower case Greek
letter?  Kinda looks like a phi if I remember me stats classes
correctly.  I don't know what that 90-degree angle thingy is.

I must investigate my character map for interesting possibilities

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Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk

> KJK
KJ.Kate - 09 Feb 2006 01:55 GMT
I will teach you grasshopper!
¬ = ALT (plus) 0172
Þ = ALT (plus) 0222

and there you have it, the official sticking my tongue out at you!

: > : > Hell no, it's not my job.
: > : >
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:
: > KJK
gcroix - 18 Jan 2006 03:46 GMT
> In the meantime we have a pretty good guy in this group that uses that
> nick,
> maybe next time you could use a different topic, so as not to make it
> appear
> as if you are disparaging him in some way.

Yes, that's right, and hopefully it wasn't taken that way.  That certainly
wasn't the way I meant it.
Mark - 21 Jan 2006 15:21 GMT
Do a search on www.stangnet.com in the classics forum.

We have discussed MANY problems with them and they are in the business of
ripping people off.

I was persistant and nice for at least 9 months and got my products from
them.  I will never use them again and am happy to spread the news on how
bad they are.

Have you gotten the responses that a family emergency yet?  Its common.

Good luck and there are others that are much better for doing business
with..

Mark

> Hello all,
>
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>
> GMC in GA
WindsorFox - 21 Jan 2006 18:24 GMT
> Do a search on www.stangnet.com in the classics forum.
>
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>
> Mark

    Hmmm, well, maybe I should change the courtesy link on my web site
to a disclaimer then.

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"Why do you
insist on putting up with this piece of crap?"

Why?

Because, as I drove away, I shifted out of 2nd gear at 60. That's why.

dwight
www.tfrog93.com

Jim Warman - 16 Feb 2006 05:24 GMT
Thank the dear Lord.... it is Feb 15th and we shall soon be past this
misdated travesty....

> Hello all,
>
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>
> GMC in GA
WindsorFox - 16 Feb 2006 23:56 GMT
>> Hello all,
>>
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> Thank the dear Lord.... it is Feb 15th and we shall soon be past this
> misdated travesty....

   Which begs the question, why did you bump it??

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"I have no need to purchase any bulk e-mail software
and use it to piss off the Internet community and lose
my Internet account. If I want to piss off somebody,
I'll do it on a one-to-one basis." - Norman L De Forest
                                         1942-2006

dwight - 18 Feb 2006 01:58 GMT
> > Thank the dear Lord.... it is Feb 15th and we shall soon be past this
> > misdated travesty....
>
>    Which begs the question, why did you bump it??

Bump what?

dwight
Big Al - 18 Feb 2006 06:36 GMT
> > > Thank the dear Lord.... it is Feb 15th and we shall soon be past this
> > > misdated travesty....
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>
> dwight

Wow! This was posted from the future:)

Al
 
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