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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / February 2006Removing ignition switch without key.
Hi, 66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are lost) as I am having trouble. I have a new tumbler with keys and switch assembley but cant seem to twist the assembly out from behind the dash.? Avoiding drilling it out but maybe I have to. >Hi, >66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are >lost) as I am having trouble. I have a new tumbler with keys and switch >assembley but cant seem to twist the assembly out from behind the >dash.? Avoiding drilling it out but maybe I have to. You should not have to drill out anything. Have to check, but I believe it's a lot easier than that... -- Spike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg Donty ou just remove bezel.? I know you have to a small pin or something in to remove the assemble and you need key for that. > >Hi, > >66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg > Donty ou just remove bezel.? I know you have to a small pin or something > in > to remove the assemble and you need key for that. No, the OP is correct. The bezel just holds in the ignition switch "module" to the car. The key barrel can't be removed from the ignition switch "module" without the key. They are two separate pieces that are combined. To re-key a classic, you have to have the original key for the ignition. Not for the other locks obviously, but specifically for the ignition.  SignatureScott W. '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/ >Hi, >66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are >lost) as I am having trouble. I have a new tumbler with keys and switch >assembley but cant seem to twist the assembly out from behind the >dash.? Avoiding drilling it out but maybe I have to. I just went through both Chilton and Haynes manuals and essentially, it says to remove the cyl you have to insert the key, turn it, and slip a wire into the hole.... Then, to replace the switch, it says the same thing, followed by... ...then press on the rear of the switch and rotate the switch 1/8 turn counter clockwise. Remove the bezel, switch and spacer. Next, remove the nut from the back of the switch. Remove the accessory and gauge feed wires from the accessory terminal. Pull the insulated plug from the rear of the switch. Follow reverse order to install the new switch. If you are replacing the switch and cylinder, then destruction of the old is not important. It seems I recall a large screwdriver being used. Lets see if anyone has any information on that before going with it. ANYONE? -- Spike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg I thought the thieves used a slide hammer? Then they put a big screwdriver in to start the car? Fred >>Hi, >>66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg Easier to jerk a couple of wires. >I thought the thieves used a slide hammer? Then they put a big screwdriver >in to start the car? [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg >> Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg -- Spike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg You need the correct key and a paper clip wire to stick in the little hole while in acc..,however the theives use a slide hammer equipped with a tapered screw in the keyhole and then a screwdriver,,Seems like they had no problem everytime they attempted(and failed) to steal my mustang with the transmission lock. Ken > Easier to jerk a couple of wires. > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg > You need the correct key and a paper clip wire to stick in the little hole > while in acc..,however the theives use a slide hammer equipped with a > tapered screw in the keyhole and then a screwdriver,,Seems like they had no > problem everytime they attempted(and failed) to steal my mustang with the > transmission lock. > Ken Without the key on an old car like that you can pick the lock and avoid a lot of trouble. I'm no locksmith but I've done it lots of times. Al > Without the key on an old car like that you can pick the lock and avoid a > lot of trouble. I'm no locksmith but I've done it lots of times. > > Al Are you a thief? SignatureMark -- : > You need the correct key and a paper clip wire to stick in the little hole : > while in acc..,however the theives use a slide hammer equipped with a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : : Al On some of the older models, if the ignition is well worn you can slide the key in and out rapidly while putting forward force on the key (as in turning it on to start it) and with some blind luck you may hit just the right spot and it will turn BUT this is much more common in older GM vehicles than in Fords. In older GMs it was pretty easy much of the time. KJK : Easier to jerk a couple of wires. No... no it isn't. Three twists to screw it in One - MAYBE two yanks on the slide and POW you are gone. Provided the SOB starts right up and runs. KJK Then, to replace the switch, it says the same thing, followed by... ...then press on the rear of the switch and rotate the switch 1/8 turn counter clockwise. Remove the bezel, switch and spacer. Next, remove the nut from the back of the switch. Remove the accessory and gauge feed wires from the accessory terminal. Pull the insulated plug from the rear of the switch. Follow reverse order to install the new switch. If you are replacing the switch and cylinder, then destruction of the old is not important. It seems I recall a large screwdriver being used. Lets see if anyone has any information on that before going with it. ANYONE? -- Spike Yes, You may end up shearing the index pin on the bezel. If that happens new ones are available for about 15 bucks. SignatureMark -- >Hi, >66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are >lost) as I am having trouble. I have a new tumbler with keys and switch >assembley but cant seem to twist the assembly out from behind the >dash.? Avoiding drilling it out but maybe I have to. Here is a possible alternative.... contact a locksmith. My dad seems to recall that they can cut a key with just enough on it to turn the cylinder, and it would only be a couple of bucks, kronor, Deutsche, Euros, lira, pesos, escudos, shillings, or whatever : 0 ) Don't even need a key for a pattern. -- Spike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg Thanks for the info Spike and others. I will try a locksmith. Brendan > >Hi, > >66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg > Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg : Thanks for the info Spike and others. I will try a locksmith. : Brendan Hmph! Shoulda done that in the first place KJK
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