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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / February 2006

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67 Mustang 390 vacuum advance

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kenG2 - 17 Feb 2006 04:03 GMT
My engine seemed like it could perform better(gets about 8 mpg) and in
investigating the dual advance distributor I gave the vacuum advance the
"suck" test and there was no leak but no movement of the distributor advance
plate,so off to the parts store to get a new vacuum advance diaphragm.After
installing the new one I could only get the engine to idle decently with the
distributor in the most retarded position. The engine would not run decently
past idle and sounded like it was suffering from excessive advance.The
vacuum takeoff for the diaphragm seems to be  metered and is a  tube on the
front side of the Holley carb.The engine runs OK with the vacuum advance
tube removed and the distributor rotated to a more advanced position. Could
it be a wrong or defective vacuum advance diaphragm? or two much centrifugal
advance? or the vacuum takeoff on the Holley??Did I throw away a perfectly
good diaphram??Sorry to be so qualitative on this subject as I haven't
observed the situation with a timing light yet.Any suggestions???Thanks
KenG
elaich - 17 Feb 2006 05:34 GMT
> My engine seemed like it could perform better(gets about 8 mpg) and in
> investigating the dual advance distributor I gave the vacuum advance
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> I haven't observed the situation with a timing light yet.Any
> suggestions???Thanks KenG

The new vac pot had both ports? I've only seen replacement pots with one.

Sounds to me like the vacuum retard port is hooked to the carb. That would
be the one pointing upward. In that case, the timing is being retarded
rather than advanced. The vacuum retard port was always routed via a vacuum  
sensor screwed into the thermostat housing.

It's also possible (but unlikely) that your breaker plate is seized.

There is a great deal of confusion about these ports. Vacuum advance is
always ported off the carb. I've had people argue me blue in the face
claiming that vacuum advance is taken from the intake manifold. Sorry, that
does exactly the opposite of what's intended.

It's also possible that your timing chain has jumped a link, and you are
adjusting the distributor to compensate. I've known engines to run quite
well like this until the timing chain jumps another link. BTW, 8 MPG is not
unlikely with a 390, depending on carb and other options. It's one of the
most inefficient engines ever made. It can be made efficient, but it takes
careful planning as far as carb, intake manifold, heads, valves, cam, and
CR.

IMO, the timing light should have been your first move.
 
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