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elaich - 02 Mar 2006 05:51 GMT
I know the VIN is on a shiny strip under the driver's window. Is there
anywhere else it is stamped in?
J. Sprauer - 02 Mar 2006 15:27 GMT
it is on each door each fender.. the hood  trunk   all over

> I know the VIN is on a shiny strip under the driver's window. Is there
> anywhere else it is stamped in?
Blue Mesteno - 02 Mar 2006 17:48 GMT
> it is on each door each fender.. the hood  trunk   all over
>
>> I know the VIN is on a shiny strip under the driver's window. Is there
>> anywhere else it is stamped in?

It depends on the year of the car as to where the VIN can be found.
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'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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elaich - 03 Mar 2006 16:36 GMT
"J. Sprauer" <jsprauer2000@yahoo.com> wrote in news:r9ENf.55686$dW3.51784
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:

> it is on each door each fender.. the hood  trunk   all over

What would be the point of stamping the VIN on removable parts like those,
that may possibly end up transplanted onto another vehicle at some point?

I have heard that the VIN is stamped into the frame or undercarriage.
However, if there is no standard place for it to be stamped, that wouldn't
do much good, would it?
J. Sprauer - 03 Mar 2006 16:42 GMT
in case they are stolen i guess... i dont build them  so i dont know but my
jeeps and mustangs have the vin on every panel

> What would be the point of stamping the VIN on removable parts like those,
> that may possibly end up transplanted onto another vehicle at some point?
>
> I have heard that the VIN is stamped into the frame or undercarriage.
> However, if there is no standard place for it to be stamped, that wouldn't
> do much good, would it?
Blue Mesteno - 04 Mar 2006 02:20 GMT
> "J. Sprauer" <jsprauer2000@yahoo.com> wrote in news:r9ENf.55686$dW3.51784
> @newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> However, if there is no standard place for it to be stamped, that wouldn't
> do much good, would it?

Jesus Christ people. It goes back to WHAT YEAR THE CAR WAS MADE!!! It's not
ALL OVER THE CAR!! There are very specific places that the VIN is stamped.
It depends on when and where the car was built as to where the stamps are
located.
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Scott W.
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

J. Sprauer - 04 Mar 2006 20:00 GMT
on the newer vehicles its nice to have them on all the fenders doors and
hood...etc   since I am in the car business I can tell right away that
everythings original not d.o.t. fenders and such.... so that tells me no
major accidents in front end!!
KJ.Kate - 03 Mar 2006 18:31 GMT
:I know the VIN is on a shiny strip under the driver's window. Is there
: anywhere else it is stamped in?

Why, you planning to steal one and swap out the numbers ???/ LOL

j/k

Kate
elaich - 04 Mar 2006 16:36 GMT
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in news:8V%Nf.5134$f6.3869
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> Why, you planning to steal one and swap out the numbers ???/ LOL

Nah. A buddy has a decrepit old Pinto that he loves, but wants to find a
nicer one. However, his is smog exempt (1975 model) and the one he found is
a '77 that would never pass smog. He was toying with the idea of swapping
the VIN plates that are located under the windshield. I urged him not to do
it, because I was sure that the VIN is also stamped into the body in other
places.
Blue Mesteno - 04 Mar 2006 23:10 GMT
> He was toying with the idea of swapping
> the VIN plates that are located under the windshield. I urged him not to
> do
> it, because I was sure that the VIN is also stamped into the body in other
> places.

You mean BESIDES the fact that it's a felony?
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'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

KJ.Kate - 05 Mar 2006 02:43 GMT
: > He was toying with the idea of swapping
: > the VIN plates that are located under the windshield. I urged him not to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
:
: You mean BESIDES the fact that it's a felony?

LMAO
Yes, techincally BUT  - LOL - let me catch my breath here.
Do you REALLY think they would prosecute a guy for swapping vins on a PINTO?
I mean, really, more like petty larceny, the car cannot be worh more than a
coupla hundred bucks.

Kate
Spike - 05 Mar 2006 23:04 GMT
>: > He was toying with the idea of swapping
>: > the VIN plates that are located under the windshield. I urged him not to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Kate

In CA they would definitely prosecute, and take the car.

In CA, if the law has not been changed, if you drop a pre smog engine
into a brand new car, it would be exempt because the smog exemption is
based on the engine not the body/frame. One of my co-workers bought a
VW bug that was smog required based on year. When he proved the engine
was pre-smog the state exempted him.
--

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GILL - 06 Mar 2006 00:15 GMT
> In CA they would definitely prosecute, and take the car.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> VW bug that was smog required based on year. When he proved the engine
> was pre-smog the state exempted him.

I always thought the engine AND ALL emissions had to be what was offered
by the Manufacturer.

When I was in Orange County I should have had a (poked N stroked) carbed
Winsor in my old 86GT.

I know you can go the other way around, as in like, a computer
controlled 5.0 in a 65 Mustang.
Spike - 06 Mar 2006 06:16 GMT
>> In CA they would definitely prosecute, and take the car.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>I know you can go the other way around, as in like, a computer
>controlled 5.0 in a 65 Mustang.
Like I said, if the law has not been changed. That was the decision
DMV made, although I'll admit Mac had a fight through the appeals
process before they finally gave in. maybe it helped that he was law
enforcement and was able to quote chapter and verse from the
California Vehicle Code (CVC). Like a lot of things, it also may be
who you talk to... ever tried to get two IRS agents to come up with
the same story?
--

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
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GILL - 06 Mar 2006 15:32 GMT
> Like I said, if the law has not been changed. That was the decision
> DMV made, although I'll admit Mac had a fight through the appeals
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
> Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg

Back in the early 80's I lived in Santa Barbara County and you only
needed to smog once, and that was at the time of transfer of ownership.
I had a little 1970 six banger Maverick that I later dropped in a 302.
Never had any DMV problems with it.
Maybe your buddy was in a situation similar to that?
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Blue Mesteno - 06 Mar 2006 02:18 GMT
> In CA, if the law has not been changed, if you drop a pre smog engine
> into a brand new car, it would be exempt because the smog exemption is
> based on the engine not the body/frame. One of my co-workers bought a
> VW bug that was smog required based on year. When he proved the engine
> was pre-smog the state exempted him.

It's the opposite here in Colorado. I had an '83 Z/28 that I dropped a
SBC400 into out of a '77 Caprice. The engine would have passed emissions
under either year, but they refused to even test it since it didn't have the
emissions stuff for an '83 in it. Besides the fact that you couldn't get an
SBC400 in a Camaro that year. The biggest being the boat anchor 305. I left
the MO plates on it until I HAD to renew then I traded the car for something
that I knew would pass.
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Scott W.
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

.boB - 06 Mar 2006 03:50 GMT
>>In CA, if the law has not been changed, if you drop a pre smog engine
>>into a brand new car, it would be exempt because the smog exemption is
>>based on the engine not the body/frame. One of my co-workers bought a
>>VW bug that was smog required based on year. When he proved the engine
>>was pre-smog the state exempted him.

   I don't think that's correct.  I havn't had the misfortune to live in CA for some
time now.  But I recall that you had to have the emission gear and pass the sniff
test for the year or the motor, whichever was newer.   A '65 carbed engine in a '95
mustang would not pass.

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Spike - 06 Mar 2006 06:20 GMT
>>>In CA, if the law has not been changed, if you drop a pre smog engine
>>>into a brand new car, it would be exempt because the smog exemption is
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>test for the year or the motor, whichever was newer.   A '65 carbed engine in a '95
>mustang would not pass.
Misfortune? Thanks very much. I'm 4th generation and my daughter is
5th generation, even though she was raised in Ohio by my ex. Perhaps
it depends on the year. I know that one of the owners of Mustangs Plus
was having a heck of a time getting a Cobra (IIRC) registered because
it "didn't meet Calif emission equipment requirements... never mind
that the same equipment as California was in all 50 that year.
--

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
KJ.Kate - 06 Mar 2006 14:49 GMT
: Misfortune? Thanks very much. I'm 4th generation and my daughter is
: 5th generation, even though she was raised in Ohio by my ex. Perhaps
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
: that the same equipment as California was in all 50 that year.
: --

When I was there, not solong ago it was:
If the vehicle had any smog equipment onit when manufactured, it had to be
on teh vehicle and operating properly.

You could put a new engine in an old car, but the car would have to pass the
emissions test from the newer engine.
This particular regulation snuk up and bit me on the a.s once while building
a (from the frame up) 69 Chevy PU. We put a little newer engine in it (if I
recall it was a 73) and it had to fit the smog requirements. We didnt KNOW
it was a newer engine, were told it was a 69 so we built it and by the time
it was too late, it was too late.

It pissed me the hell off and I sold the truck to a guy who paid WAY too
much money for it.
Wish I had it now though, that sumunagun was absolutely beautiful.

Kate
Jim Warman - 04 Mar 2006 03:21 GMT
There are places that are obvious and there are places that we don't
suspect.... vehicle theft delivers a pretty big hit to the GNP and other
numbers.... The manufacturers hace placed VIN indcators in many places....
in my day job, I run across the odd one... but I sure haven't seen every
one....

>I know the VIN is on a shiny strip under the driver's window. Is there
> anywhere else it is stamped in?
KJ.Kate - 04 Mar 2006 04:33 GMT
: There are places that are obvious and there are places that we don't
: suspect.... vehicle theft delivers a pretty big hit to the GNP and other
: numbers.... The manufacturers hace placed VIN indcators in many places....
: in my day job, I run across the odd one... but I sure haven't seen every
: one....

I think he's up to no good.

yep, I do.

KJK
 
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