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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / March 2006

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Trade 92 lx 5.0 for a 91 SHO

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chron78@yahoo.com - 18 Mar 2006 00:48 GMT
Ok, I ask for an unbiased opinion here, this being the mustang
newsgroup.

Me:  1992 LX 5.0, no options, former California patrol car

111,000 miles.  Exterior has hood and front fascia damage.  hood needs
replaced along with all weatherstripping.  driver side door has
problems.  needs paint job.  interior in poor shape, except for
dashboard which is great.  carpets/seats and door side panels are in
poor condition

The engine however is in great condition, the car has almost never been
dogged and is always fed high octane gas.  Along with regular oil
changes, etc..  Tranny is fine.  Clutch is the mid-grade version of the
Centerforce.. (very strong)

Him:

1991 Taurus SHO, great condition inside and out.  115,000 miles.
Engine seems to run great.  Owner told me engine has been recently
"rebuilt".  I understand these engines can have problems with certain
censors which are hard to replace.  Not sure if they have been replaced
yet.

Is this is a fair trade, straight up, car for car?  I'm interested in
having a more comfortable ride and this drives nice, is very roomy, and
has lots of options.  Not to mention its pretty darn fast (of course
not as fast as the stang).
Brent P - 18 Mar 2006 02:01 GMT
> 1991 Taurus SHO, great condition inside and out.  115,000 miles.
> Engine seems to run great.  Owner told me engine has been recently
> "rebuilt".

The engine is as good as the person who rebuilt it.

I wouldn't exchange known for unknown.
Backyard Mechanic - 18 Mar 2006 03:02 GMT
Who dont you ask, here:

http://www.shoforum.com/

If you're in NJ..(Comcast sure isnt specific as to DNS locations)
there's probably a SHO club near you.  Get in touch.

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chron78@yahoo.com - 18 Mar 2006 04:24 GMT
I feel I'm more in the Mustang "brotherhood" right now.  Thought maybe
someone here would know both cars and could give an opinion from
experience.

I'll check out shoforum.com. Thanks
KJ.Kate - 18 Mar 2006 13:46 GMT
My two cents worth in a three dollar package.

Personally, I wouldn't do it. With the Taurus you not only have to worry
about the sensors but their trannys are notorious for failure and that one
has reached about the right mileage.
I had a Taurus as a commuter, got it cheap, ran it for a few months, tranny
died, I threw it away because the transmission replacement would have been
twice the value of the car itself.

On the OTHER hand, if you invest a little here and a little there in your
Mustang, you will have a damn nice car that will hold some value. I wish I
could get my hands on a Mustang like the one you have at a good price (by
that I mean really cheap) I would make it a project car. I've wanted one
since I can remember.

BUT if you are completely fed up with the Stang, and think the other guy
will love it enough to restore it back to it's former beauty then go for it,
the Taurus is a nice comfortable little car and is pretty easy on the gas.
Just remember to hold back enough money for that tranny. Have a mechanic
look at it and a transmission shop look at it before you swap.

KJKate
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:I feel I'm more in the Mustang "brotherhood" right now.  Thought maybe
: someone here would know both cars and could give an opinion from
: experience.
:
: I'll check out shoforum.com. Thanks
Backyard Mechanic - 18 Mar 2006 14:05 GMT
> My two cents worth in a three dollar package.
>
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> tranny. Have a mechanic look at it and a transmission shop look at it
> before you swap.

Different tranny kate.  Should be the AX4N, not AX4S which is the one
that had the problems.

I was lucky enough to get a 95 Taurus GL with a 3.0 and the AX4N
(actually labeled 'SHO') transmission... and have had very few problems
at 190,000 miles

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351CJ - 19 Mar 2006 08:22 GMT
The '91 SHO has a 5 speed manual transaxle, and shares nothing mechanically
in common with the standard Taurus...

> My two cents worth in a three dollar package.
>
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> :
> : I'll check out shoforum.com. Thanks
Backyard Mechanic - 19 Mar 2006 13:51 GMT
> The '91 SHO has a 5 speed manual transaxle, and shares nothing
> mechanically in common with the standard Taurus...

Which is another good reason to rely on the SHO groups info rather than
here.  

Though there's some idiots on there, too... such as the ongoing thread
about using dielectric or heat sink grease on the DIS, and the nature of
dielectric grease... culminating in the Master Idiot saying never to use
dielectric on frame grounding connections.

Besides which, I was apparently all wrong on availability of AX4N in 91

But here's the point.. the SHO is a WHOLE DIFFERNT {sic} car.  Maybe the
guy with the SHO wants a whole diferent project and doesnt get his cookies
driving a FWD, no matter why.... like, say, why this is the Mustang group
and not the Miata or Probe group.

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generally, smarter than you...

chron78@yahoo.com - 20 Mar 2006 02:10 GMT
Thanks for the replies.  The SHO owner is an 18 year old (who knows
mechanics decently well) who just wants a fast car, I'm assuming to
race his friends.  My LX is mostly stock but it runs high 13's, low
14s, much faster than the SHO.

Once the Mustang is in this kids hands its just a matter of time before
he's in a wreck with it (immature and very eager to street race).  I
have a conscience, and don't want him to get hurt, but in reality its
not my problem.  If the trade is worth it, I'll do it.  But after
hearing of the expense of keeping SHOs operational, I'll probably pass.

The budget is tight, and if anything goes wrong with the stang, I have
the knowledge to fix it myself..  Having done head gaskets, cams,
in-tank fuel pumps, etc, I'm not worried about mechanical failures with
the stang.

> > The '91 SHO has a 5 speed manual transaxle, and shares nothing
> > mechanically in common with the standard Taurus...
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> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, not the most intelligent guy on here but,
> generally, smarter than you...
John - 18 Mar 2006 14:07 GMT
I wouldn't, as Kate said, you'll be needing a tranny and if the engine has
been rebuilt chances are the guy beat the crap out of it, so how long does
that tranny have left....  Also, if he just rebuilt it, why is he willing to
part with it?  Sounds like a nice ride, why not keep it unless he is tired
of it and wants a stang.
You'd be far better taking the money for the tranny replacment and putting
into what you've got, the parts you listed are readily available.  I'll bet
thats what this guys plan is.  Your 5.0 is much more durable than the SHO
motor and he's likely tired of mechanical failures.
And personally, I'd LOVE to have a LX cop car over a SHO anyday.

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> Ok, I ask for an unbiased opinion here, this being the mustang
> newsgroup.
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> has lots of options.  Not to mention its pretty darn fast (of course
> not as fast as the stang).
351CJ - 19 Mar 2006 08:32 GMT
> Ok, I ask for an unbiased opinion here, this being the mustang
> newsgroup.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> has lots of options.  Not to mention its pretty darn fast (of course
> not as fast as the stang).

Having owned 3 SHO's I can tell you that as great as they were (and they
were GREAT), they are NOT worth owning, simply because of the rarity and
expense of SHO specific parts, especially engine parts (call around and try
to get a complete engine rebuild kit for an SHO 3.0 liter, through normal
channels, you will start to see what I am talking about).  They were HOT
sh.t when they first hit the market in the late 80's, (the look on the 5.0
guys face when you flat walk away from him is priceless) nothing (no other 4
door sedan) on the planet could touch them for anywhere near the price (Low
$20,000's).  Today an SHO isn't worth owning, period.

Good Luck with your choice.
 
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