It's A Crazy [HP] War

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NoOption5L@aol.com - 29 Mar 2006 03:28 GMT

500-600 Hp Cadillacs are in the pipeline and on the drawing
board...it's crazy!

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Though we'd hardly consider the Cadillac CTS V-Series ordinary, it's
clear this version is well beyond that performance CTS.

We last encountered the CTS Super V in testing at the Nürburgring
("Spied: Super V!, May 31, 2004), but this one-spotted recently by
an alert spy shooter-appears much closer to production-ready. We're
told it's the 2007 CTS Super V, and that it is powered by a 7.0-liter
505-hp LS7 V8 lifted directly from the Corvette Z06.

The Super V also features custom bodywork, huge rear tires, larger
exhaust pipes and an engine sound unlike any other CTS.

With the new CTS slated for arrival as a 2008 model, speculation is
that Cadillac will offer this exclusive model as a last hurrah for the
exiting first-generation CTS.

If that's not powerful enough, wait for the next-generation CTS Super
V, which is rumored to be equipped with the LS9 engine-a supercharged
6.2-liter V8 with 600 hp. But you'll be waiting at least until the
2010 or 2011 model year for that one.
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Patrick

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Garth Almgren - 29 Mar 2006 04:13 GMT

> 500-600 Hp Cadillacs are in the pipeline and on the drawing
> board...it's crazy!

Yeah, but they're still fugly. :)

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elaich - 29 Mar 2006 07:22 GMT

NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1143599287.478466.235090
@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

> If that's not powerful enough, wait for the next-generation CTS Super
> V, which is rumored to be equipped with the LS9 engine-a supercharged
> 6.2-liter V8 with 600 hp. But you'll be waiting at least until the
> 2010 or 2011 model year for that one.

And it makes all it's horsepower above 5000 RPM.

If this is what people want, why is GM (and Ford) about to bite the big
one?

People want dependable cars that are fuel efficient and have enough power
to keep them safe. I haven't seen many Japanese car builders toting 600 HP,
but they will sell 10 times more vehicles than Cadillac will.

Who the hell cares about a car that will make 600 HP above 5000 RPM, and
will barely make 150 HP down where we all do our driving, around 2500 RPM?

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lab~rat >:-) - 29 Mar 2006 16:28 GMT

>NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1143599287.478466.235090
>@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
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>Who the hell cares about a car that will make 600 HP above 5000 RPM, and
>will barely make 150 HP down where we all do our driving, around 2500 RPM?

Those are their semi-halo cars that the faithful can brag about...
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NoOption5L@aol.com - 30 Mar 2006 04:25 GMT

> NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1143599287.478466.235090
> @e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

> > If that's not powerful enough, wait for the next-generation CTS Super
> > V, which is rumored to be equipped with the LS9 engine-a supercharged
> > 6.2-liter V8 with 600 hp. But you'll be waiting at least until the
> > 2010 or 2011 model year for that one.

> And it makes all it's horsepower above 5000 RPM.

So does Honda's S2000.

And it all depends on what type of supercharger they put on it. A
roots type will offer LOTS of twist down low.

> If this is what people want, why is GM (and Ford) about to bite the big
> one?

Because for years they never offered anything to compete with Europe's
& Japan's premium cars. No flagship models to give their brands
prestige, was yet another reason the Big 3 lost their grip on the home
market.

> People want dependable cars that are fuel efficient and have enough power
> to keep them safe.

I don't know what planet you're remoting in from, but here on Earth
there are many people who love, and buy, cars with excessive
horsepower. Do some research on Porshe, Ferrari, Viper, Corvette,
muscle car, BMW M series, Supra and Lancer Evolution.

>I haven't seen many Japanese car builders toting 600 HP,

Because for years Japan limited factory HP to around 280. But check
out the upcoming Evolution. And I'm sure the WRX STi will have an
answer for that one.

> but they will sell 10 times more vehicles than Cadillac will.

You're right Cadillac should start building entry level cars. Yep,
that's their ticket to the big leagues.

> Who the hell cares about a car that will make 600 HP above 5000 RPM, and
> will barely make 150 HP down where we all do our driving, around 2500 RPM?

I think 6.2 liters will offer plenty of punch down low. And if it
doesn't, you can always keep it in 1st or 2nd gear around town.

Patrick

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