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H pipe or X pipe?

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5.0 MUSCLE - 16 Apr 2006 04:55 GMT
i have a 90 mustang with flowmasters on it and its very loud but i want
that really deep and throaty mustang sound.  i have the factory pipes
on, im not sure what to go with either an H pipe or X pipe for that
really deep sound, suggestions please
Spike - 16 Apr 2006 06:15 GMT
>i have a 90 mustang with flowmasters on it and its very loud but i want
>that really deep and throaty mustang sound.  i have the factory pipes
>on, im not sure what to go with either an H pipe or X pipe for that
>really deep sound, suggestions please
I was told that the X gives you more of a ricer sound. You might check
the Flowmaster web site and see if they have any recordings which
indicate an X in use. I have not been there in a while so not sure
what they have listed to listen too.
--

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
Amy  Andrews - 16 Apr 2006 12:20 GMT
There's a site called mustangexhaust.com.  I think you have to become a
member, but it's free.  It's full of sound clips of Mustangs with different
exhaust mods.  I haven't looked at the site for awhile, but it used to be
really easy to pick what you wanted because it would have good descriptions
like "1992 5.0, Bassani H pipe, Flowmaster American Thunder mufflers".  You
might check that out.
Ken

>>i have a 90 mustang with flowmasters on it and its very loud but i want
>>that really deep and throaty mustang sound.  i have the factory pipes
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> Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
> Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg 
5.0 MUSCLE - 16 Apr 2006 20:44 GMT
thanks, ill check out the website
Blue Mesteno - 18 Apr 2006 00:17 GMT
> I was told that the X gives you more of a ricer sound.

I don't know about "ricer" since NASCAR is using x-pipes. It's just a higher
pitch more in line with an F1 type of sound. It's definitely not the deep
throaty sound of an h-pipe through flowmasters. It's more of a growl. That's
the only word I can think of to describe the difference. It definitely still
sounds like a V-8 though, not a 4-banger with a turbo and the popoff valve
set too high. reen neen neen neen neen Whistle!!!!!
Signature

Scott W.
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

Blue Gator - 18 Apr 2006 02:32 GMT
>>I was told that the X gives you more of a ricer sound.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> sounds like a V-8 though, not a 4-banger with a turbo and the popoff valve
> set too high. reen neen neen neen neen Whistle!!!!!

My Mustang has been parked for a few years now, but it has a complete
Bassani exhaust system from headers to cats, x-pipe, and side-exit
mufflers.  I really liked the sound a lot, but some people thought it
was too quiet.  It was definitely quieter than Flowmasters, but I
couldn't live with Flowmasters in a daily driver.

Oh, there was NO ricer sounds or I would have sent the whole thing back!

Blue Gator
Spike - 18 Apr 2006 21:11 GMT
>> I was told that the X gives you more of a ricer sound.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>sounds like a V-8 though, not a 4-banger with a turbo and the popoff valve
>set too high. reen neen neen neen neen Whistle!!!!!
As stated, "I was told" when I was asking about adding to my 66FB
which had a single exhaust with a transverse muffler behind a 289.
What i wanted was the soft understated rumble I had in my TransAM GTA
with the 5.7L TPI. Not a neighbor killer, but just enough that the cop
beside me knows I'm there, but isn't irritated by it....
--

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
My Names Nobody - 19 Apr 2006 00:58 GMT
>>> I was told that the X gives you more of a ricer sound.
>>
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> with the 5.7L TPI. Not a neighbor killer, but just enough that the cop
> beside me knows I'm there, but isn't irritated by it....

That is a fine line!  I would just as soon the cop didn't even notice I
existed.  I much prefer all go, little show and absolutely as little noise
as possible.
Spike - 19 Apr 2006 20:57 GMT
>>>> I was told that the X gives you more of a ricer sound.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>existed.  I much prefer all go, little show and absolutely as little noise
>as possible.

My TransAM was very understated. Great car though. More than once
while cruising down the highway punch it for passing and break
traction at around 60 mph (came with AOD - only trans available in
91). Essentially a 'vette in different clothing. My Mustang is very
stock looking. runs pretty good, but I probably need to change the
gears (or maybe rebuild the C4 tranny). It's just a LOT louder than my
TransAm was.
--

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
5.0 MUSCLE - 20 Apr 2006 01:25 GMT
thanks for all the info, i think im going to go with the h pipe.  i
want to annoy the sh.t out of that cop next to me, lol
My Names Nobody - 20 Apr 2006 06:51 GMT
> thanks for all the info, i think im going to go with the h pipe.  i
> want to annoy the sh.t out of that cop next to me, lol

You are welcome.
I learned my lesson long ago.  Even revved my way too loud engine while in a
tunnel with two city motorcycle cops before, they really didn't like that,
kept me on the side of the road screwing with me for almost an hour.  That
and way too many other loud exhaust system related problems, I finally
learned my lesson.
After enough tickets you deserve, and being pulled over just because your
loud exhaust one time too many, you too will learn to appreciate as quite of
an exhaust system as you can get...

Good luck.
5.0 MUSCLE - 23 Apr 2006 15:24 GMT
haha, thanks man
Spike - 20 Apr 2006 17:22 GMT
>thanks for all the info, i think im going to go with the h pipe.  i
>want to annoy the sh.t out of that cop next to me, lol
Where abouts are you? I may still have a few friends on a force near
you with nothing better to do on a slow day.... :0)
--

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
5.0 MUSCLE - 23 Apr 2006 15:27 GMT
lol, im everywhere
Jim Warman - 16 Apr 2006 16:17 GMT
I prefer this one....
http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2

>i have a 90 mustang with flowmasters on it and its very loud but i want
> that really deep and throaty mustang sound.  i have the factory pipes
> on, im not sure what to go with either an H pipe or X pipe for that
> really deep sound, suggestions please
WindsorFox - 16 Apr 2006 16:21 GMT
> I prefer this one....
> http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> on, im not sure what to go with either an H pipe or X pipe for that
>> really deep sound, suggestions please

   Now that is DEEP!!

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Big Al - 17 Apr 2006 00:40 GMT
> I prefer this one....
> http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2

Oh, you do....

Al :)
Jim Warman - 17 Apr 2006 01:11 GMT
When I am safely esconced in my bed at 2 AM, that is about as deep and
throaty as I want the neighbour kids car to be.... 8^)

>> I prefer this one....
>> http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2
>
> Oh, you do....
>
> Al :)
WindsorFox - 16 Apr 2006 16:20 GMT
> i have a 90 mustang with flowmasters on it and its very loud but i want
> that really deep and throaty mustang sound.  i have the factory pipes
> on, im not sure what to go with either an H pipe or X pipe for that
> really deep sound, suggestions please

   IMHO you are doing exhaust work for the wrong reason, you may as
well own a Cvic. Taking your description literally, you need a big block
engine for that requirement.

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PMPO is a complete fantasy "spec" that has absolutely
NO physically justifiable meaning. The claim is just
outright dishonest, and the company knows it.  -  Dick Pierce

 
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