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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / May 2006

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bf81 - 27 May 2006 23:57 GMT
I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
1972 mustang coupe
Brakes were working not great, but they stopped the car.
Replaced all  wheel cylenders, masterbrake, shoes, drums (4 wheel drum, no
power anything) and bled them. I get no air when bleeding, refilled the
master 5 times (never letting it go dry!) and the pedal goes to the floor.
Tires in the air, someone presses on the brake wheel stops but can be
turned.
Thought I got a bad master, returned it got a new (not rebuilt) same exact
thing.
No leaks anywhere.
I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk am
I missing something?
Jim Warman - 28 May 2006 01:08 GMT
Did you adjust the brakes???

>I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
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> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk
> am I missing something?
bf81 - 28 May 2006 01:48 GMT
yea, adjusted forget to list that one
> Did you adjust the brakes???
>
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>> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk
>> am I missing something?
Brent P - 28 May 2006 03:10 GMT
<garbled list deleted>

Did you bleed the master cylinder ?

Are there any leaks in the lines/fittings ?
bf81 - 28 May 2006 04:21 GMT
Bench bled master no leaks all lines and fittings are dry

> <garbled list deleted>
>
> Did you bleed the master cylinder ?
>
> Are there any leaks in the lines/fittings ?
RJ - 28 May 2006 05:50 GMT
Not implying anything, sure you are not sucking in air when the brake petal
is being released?
> I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk am
> I missing something?
CCTGENE - 28 May 2006 10:57 GMT
What's the condition of your brake hoses?

>I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk
> am I missing something?
Rick Olive - 28 May 2006 13:31 GMT
Experience has taught me that a four wheel brake job without a power
bleeder is asking for problems. Either buy/rent/borrow a power bleeder
or tow to the nearest shop for bleeding. You'll never get the air out
otherwise.

> I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk am
> I missing something?
elaich - 29 May 2006 00:53 GMT
Rick Olive <rickolive@N0SPAMcomcast.net> wrote in news:i7WdnelM89-
HBeTZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com:

> Experience has taught me that a four wheel brake job without a power
> bleeder is asking for problems. Either buy/rent/borrow a power bleeder
> or tow to the nearest shop for bleeding. You'll never get the air out
> otherwise.

Jeez, how did they ever bleed 'em for 70 or 80 years before power bleeders
were invented?

Bleed furthest away in order to closest. Use a bleeder bottle and make sure
there is no air in it before tightening the fitting. I've never had any
problem.
bf81 - 30 May 2006 02:06 GMT
I agree. I should be able to bleed them "the old fashond way" but I still
get mush. Maybe the laws of physics have changed?
I orderewd a power bleeder, I'll post what happens.
> Rick Olive <rickolive@N0SPAMcomcast.net> wrote in news:i7WdnelM89-
> HBeTZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> there is no air in it before tightening the fitting. I've never had any
> problem.

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