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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / June 2006

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Difference between pre 2005 and later? Purchasing advice needed!

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Glenn Carlsen - 19 Jun 2006 22:52 GMT
Hello all!
I am considering a 2005+ Mustang vert with a V6 or possibly a hard top GT.
I can afford either the vert or the GT but not a GT Vert :(

I have been scoping out the dealers and they seem to have no shortage of
any of these cars which leads me to believe that price may be negotiable
despite the popularity of these cars?

One dealer has to have at least 20 Rousche models in stock, which seem
like a ripoff to me but what do I know?

So anyhow, I was also considering a pre-2005 car although I love the retro
look of the 05/06 models.

So my question is, as I understand it, the V8 is little changed from 04
but the V6 is entirely new and not the old 3.8 disaster that Ford used in
the Taurus and older T-birds? (Head gasket woes)

Is this correct?

As is usually the case when the body style changes, the pre-05 models have
dropped a lot in price on the used market.

Is there any reason not to buy one of these, say the 40th anniversary
model (if I can find one) ?

FWIW I drove a rental 2006 V6 vert a couple of months ago and was
extremely impressed by the car.
Smooth, fast and a lot of fun to drive!

Would a 2004 Vert V8 be similar or are am I comparing apples and oranges?

TIA!

(BTW what is this Rousche thing?)

Glenn
.boB - 20 Jun 2006 00:03 GMT
> Hello all!
> I am considering a 2005+ Mustang vert with a V6 or possibly a hard top GT.
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> One dealer has to have at least 20 Rousche models in stock, which seem
> like a ripoff to me but what do I know?
   I agree.  Not enough bang for the buck for me.

> So my question is, as I understand it, the V8 is little changed from 04
> but the V6 is entirely new and not the old 3.8 disaster that Ford used in
> the Taurus and older T-birds? (Head gasket woes)
>
> Is this correct?

   True.  The V8 is little changed.  Still an excellent motor.  The 4L V6 is a vast
improvement over the 2004's.  The rated power is pretty good.  With a simple computer
tune you can pick up more ponies.  Add a blower and some long tube headers and it
will outperform a stock GT.

> Is there any reason not to buy one of these, say the 40th anniversary
> model (if I can find one) ?

   No reason not to.  I don't particularly like the styling, so I wouldn't.    The
'04 V8 is an excellent car.

> FWIW I drove a rental 2006 V6 vert a couple of months ago and was
> extremely impressed by the car.
> Smooth, fast and a lot of fun to drive!

  I rented on last fall and put about 1500 miles on it.  Nice car.  Good power for
auto and 25mpg.  Love the styling.

> Would a 2004 Vert V8 be similar or are am I comparing apples and oranges?

    Apples and oranges.  The engine and trans are essentially the same.  The rest of
the car is completly differant.

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John S. - 20 Jun 2006 11:27 GMT
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>     True.  The V8 is little changed.  Still an excellent motor.  The 4L V6 is a vast
> improvement over the 2004's.  The rated power is pretty good.  With a simple computer
> tune you can pick up more ponies.  Add a blower and some long tube headers and it
> will outperform a stock GT.

<snip>
> --
> .boB
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> 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
> 1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.

I agree... I love my little 6... hehehehe... I basically pushed it to
it's limit with a 125HP shot of Nitrous and broke the ring landing on a
piston... We've now installed a lightly used 4.0L (less than 5000 miles
on it!) and replaced the N20 with a Vortech SC... The car is now
putting down over 300RWHP!  While I haven't had a chance to take the
Vortech to the track everything so far tells me the car will still be
LOW 13's... possible very high 12s...

You can check it out at
http://www.tammyandjohn.com/Mustang/Screaming/Mustang.htm

Also my car is featured in the August issue of Modified Mustang! LOL!
One thing I hope I made clear in the article is the 05+ V6 Mustang is
not like those old rental dogs of days gone by! LOL!
whoeva - 20 Jun 2006 02:23 GMT
this is jsut an assignment which i was told to do, please do not reply
back
> Hello all!
> I am considering a 2005+ Mustang vert with a V6 or possibly a hard top GT.
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Glenn
trainfan1 - 20 Jun 2006 03:32 GMT
> Hello all!
> I am considering a 2005+ Mustang vert with a V6 or possibly a hard top GT.
> I can afford either the vert or the GT but not a GT Vert ...
>
> So my question is, as I understand it, the V8 is little changed from 04
> but the V6 is entirely new ...

Well, new... only in that it is a return to the Mustang(last used in
1978). This SOHC 4.0 V-6 is the final incarnation of the 2.8 Mustang II
/ Capri II pushrod V-6, to be phased out in 2007-2008.

Rob
Tony Alonso - 21 Jun 2006 06:01 GMT
The V8 is changed significantly in 2005 because it has an additional 40
hp and 18 ft-lb of torque than the 2004 model (300/320 vs. 260/302).
Also, it uses a 3-valve head with variable cam phasing, electronic
throttle control, and intake "butterfly" plates (charge motion control).
The ride and handling is much improved in the new Mustang because of the
new unibody structure that is stiffer than the previous generation.

>Hello all!
>I am considering a 2005+ Mustang vert with a V6 or possibly a hard top GT.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
>  
My Names Nobody - 21 Jun 2006 07:03 GMT
> The V8 is changed significantly in 2005 because it has an additional 40 hp
> and 18 ft-lb of torque than the 2004 model (300/320 vs. 260/302). Also, it
> uses a 3-valve head with variable cam phasing, electronic throttle
> control, and intake "butterfly" plates (charge motion control). The ride
> and handling is much improved in the new Mustang because of the new
> unibody structure that is stiffer than the previous generation.

Ding Ding, We have a winner.
The 2005 body structure is 31 percent stiffer in torsional rigidity than the
2004.

>>Hello all!
>>I am considering a 2005+ Mustang vert with a V6 or possibly a hard top GT.
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>>
>>Glenn
HerkyJerky - 21 Jun 2006 12:41 GMT
I haven't seen many comments on the new rear suspension.  I wonder what
customers (not Ford or magazines)  think of it vs the previous design.
The way Ford talked it up prior to intro, you'd think its as good as an
IRS.  Is it?  Isn't it similar to the last of the Camarobird hardware?
Seems like that was always talked about as superior to the Mustang's
quad control arm setup at the time.
 
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