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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / July 2006

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93 vs 06

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Chumley - 27 Jul 2006 06:20 GMT
I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)

If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)

Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?
Jim Warman - 27 Jul 2006 09:22 GMT
A car is like a pair of shoes....
>I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>
> If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)
>
> Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?
ZombyWoof - 27 Jul 2006 12:48 GMT
>I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>
>If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)
>
>Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?

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formerly Nobody - 27 Jul 2006 13:16 GMT
>>I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>>
>>If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)
>>
>>Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?

There once was a tortise and a hare.....
NoOption5L@aol.com - 27 Jul 2006 14:46 GMT
> I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)

Can we assume you removed some weight and added a little extra
horsepower?  Note: Most 5-oh cars weigh about 3,100-3,200.  The '93s
were rated at 215.

> If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)

> Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?

My guess this a 2,700 pound 240 HP 5-oh car would be quicker.  In a
drag race the '06 car would have to ]try] to regain ground as the mph
in the race increased.  

Patrick
tony - 27 Jul 2006 14:48 GMT
>> I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>
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>
> Patrick

Seems to me that horsepower is only part of the equation.. I have to think
that torque, gearing and suspension are going to play a significant part...
Robert A. Plourde Jr. - 27 Jul 2006 14:58 GMT
Just from a mathematical point of view,

the 93's power to weight ratio is 240 / 2700 = 0.0888888.... hp per lb.
the 06's power to weight ratio is 300 / 3500 = 0.085714285... hp per lb.

So, on paper, the 93 has more horse power per pound of weight.

but then there are gear ratios and horsepower curves and torque curves and
lots of other things that can skew the results.

> > I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>
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>
> Patrick
My Names Nobody - 27 Jul 2006 20:45 GMT
>I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>
> If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)
>
> Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?

Since the body stiffness, and vastly improved suspension on the new mustangs
come into play, there will be no comparison.  The new (2005-200?) mustangs
don't feel sluggish compared to previous mustangs.

Go test drive one, you will be pleasantly surprised.
Andy  Smith - 27 Jul 2006 22:28 GMT
>I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>
> If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)
>
> Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?

They definitely don't drive the same. I own a stone stock 93 GT, 5 speed,
3.08 gear with mechanical clutch. Back on Memorial Day my wife and I took
the 2006 GT / manual 5 speed for a 23 mile test drive.

Let's start with the handling. Compared to my 93 (which has had shocks,
struts, and bushings installed and is tight), the new Mustang handles GREAT!
At the time I said something like "This thing turns like a RACE car!". Maybe
exaggeration but I really love the way the new car handles.

As far as sluggish, my 93 feels like it has more low end torque, but when
you rev up that new 3V 4.6L V8, the superior horsepower is noticable. There
was a post in here earlier where a guy who had just purchase a new stang was
complaining about the trottle response, then answered his own post saying
that with a cold air induction system and flash tune, the power was just
fine.

I've just ordered my 2007 GT last Saturday and I'm eyeing the C&L CAI with
the Diablo Predator tuner for an early mod. If you get a 2007 manual you
have to get the 3.55 gear as an option, as 3.30 is standard for 2007.

Andy
Dr Chumley - 28 Jul 2006 03:40 GMT
>>I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>>
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> post saying that with a cold air induction system and flash tune, the
> power was just fine.

flash tune ?  what is that ?  (I still only have my 93 5.0  8#, stock
everything else)

> I've just ordered my 2007 GT last Saturday and I'm eyeing the C&L CAI with
> the Diablo Predator tuner for an early mod. If you get a 2007 manual you
> have to get the 3.55 gear as an option, as 3.30 is standard for 2007.
>
> Andy
Andy  Smith - 28 Jul 2006 11:05 GMT
>>>I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> flash tune ?  what is that ?  (I still only have my 93 5.0  8#, stock
> everything else)

I have yet to use one myself, but a flash tuner can reprogram your car's
engine computer.

http://www.yourperformancesource.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=572

>> I've just ordered my 2007 GT last Saturday and I'm eyeing the C&L CAI
>> with the Diablo Predator tuner for an early mod. If you get a 2007 manual
>> you have to get the 3.55 gear as an option, as 3.30 is standard for 2007.
>>
>> Andy
rander3127@gmail.com - 29 Jul 2006 17:09 GMT
> I have a 93 about 240 hp  5.0  (weight is about 2700)
>
> If I get a 2006 V8 about 300 hp (weight at 3500)
>
> Will the drive the same or the 2006 be more sluggish due to the weight ?

I had a 1988 LX 5.0, 1993 LX 5.0, 2001 GT and now a 2004 Mach-1.
The 1993 was a DOG.  It was at least a second slower 0-60 than the
1988.
Even steeper rear end gears didn't put it in the same class as the
other
cars.  Whatever Ford did to it in that year was "not good."
 
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