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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / July 2006

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goodnigh - 27 Jul 2006 16:05 GMT
The air cleaner reads 351 4V on my '71 Grande'.
This is confirmed by the fifth character in the vin  "M".
What does 4V represent?  If they meant 4 barrel, why
not say so.  Please be bear with me, this
my first Mustang :)
And I must say, I have been converted!

Thanks

mike
Blue Mesteno - 27 Jul 2006 22:20 GMT
To make the sticker smaller?
> The air cleaner reads 351 4V on my '71 Grande'.
> This is confirmed by the fifth character in the vin  "M".
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>
> mike
goodnigh - 27 Jul 2006 23:24 GMT
The air cleaner is huge.  They didn't name it 'Grande' for no reason.

> To make the sticker smaller?

>> The air cleaner reads 351 4V on my '71 Grande'.
>> This is confirmed by the fifth character in the vin  "M".
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>>
>> mike
Kruse - 28 Jul 2006 00:20 GMT
> What does 4V represent?  If they meant 4 barrel, why
> not say so.  Please be bear with me, this
> my first Mustang :)

"V" stands for venturi. The word was popular years ago, but the word
"barrel" kind
of took over. Maybe it's just easier to slide off the tongue, who
knows......
My Names Nobody - 28 Jul 2006 00:33 GMT
>> What does 4V represent?  If they meant 4 barrel, why
>> not say so.  Please be bear with me, this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of took over. Maybe it's just easier to slide off the tongue, who
> knows......

They are not quite an interchangeable term,  they refer to two different
very distinct parts.

"Barrel" is a popular term for the carburetor throat. There is one venturi
in each throat.  A "venturi" is a tube with a restricted section. When
liquid or air passes through the venturi tube, the speed of flow is
increased at the restriction, and air pressure is decreased, creating an
"increase in vacuum" (a reduction in ambient pressure). This causes fuel to
be drawn into the barrel. The venturi action is used to keep the correct
air-fuel ratio throughout the range of speeds and loads of the engine.
goodnigh - 28 Jul 2006 01:53 GMT
That makes sense and thanks for the reply.
Had a ' 71 240Z once with SU side draft venturi carbs.
I guess Bernoulli got it right.

mike

>> What does 4V represent?  If they meant 4 barrel, why
>> not say so.  Please be bear with me, this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of took over. Maybe it's just easier to slide off the tongue, who
> knows......
My Names Nobody - 28 Jul 2006 00:25 GMT
V = Venturi
"Barrel" is a popular term for the carburetor throat. There is one venturi
in each throat...

> The air cleaner reads 351 4V on my '71 Grande'.
> This is confirmed by the fifth character in the vin  "M".
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> mike
Jim Warman - 28 Jul 2006 04:09 GMT
Ermmm.... looking down, let's say a Motorcraft carb, in each throat we see a
venturi  making up the throat itself (the shape is unmistakeable). Within
each venturi, we notice a booster venturi suspended on a small pylon in the
centre of the main venturi...
goodnigh - 28 Jul 2006 04:36 GMT
> Ermmm.... looking down, let's say a Motorcraft carb, in each throat we see
> a venturi  making up the throat itself (the shape is unmistakeable).
> Within each venturi, we notice a booster venturi suspended on a small
> pylon in the centre of the main venturi...

Looks pretty much like that with a small pipe in the center of the
booster venturi.  The booster is a small ring shaped device correct?

Any idea on CFM rate.

Thanks for your advice.

mike
Jim Warman - 28 Jul 2006 08:19 GMT
The booster venturi is the small ring in the middle of the throttle bore....
The throttle bore is also shaped like a venturi (which, I guess, makes it a
venturi). For a better understanding, Google "Bernoullis Principle" - check
variations, I can't spell Italian for squat...

Unless my memory has really gone for a crap, the 351C 4V used the Motorcraft
"spreadbore" carb... IIRC, this was in the 600 to 700 CFM range.

Disclaimer.... there's been a LOT of water under the bridge since I worked
on these regularly.... if I'm wrong, I plead the Alzheimers amendment...

>> Ermmm.... looking down, let's say a Motorcraft carb, in each throat we
>> see a venturi  making up the throat itself (the shape is unmistakeable).
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>
> mike
goodnigh - 28 Jul 2006 21:47 GMT
> The booster venturi is the small ring in the middle of the throttle
> bore.... The throttle bore is also shaped like a venturi (which, I guess,
> makes it a venturi). For a better understanding, Google "Bernoullis
> Principle" - check variations, I can't spell Italian for squat...

Your spelling is perfect, Bernoulli's.

> Unless my memory has really gone for a crap, the 351C 4V used the
> Motorcraft "spreadbore" carb... IIRC, this was in the 600 to 700 CFM
> range.

In this case, the carb is an Edelbrock but don't know what model.

mike
 
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