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John S. - 20 Sep 2006 19:42 GMT SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California filed suit against Ford Motor Co., General Motors Corp., Toyota Motor Corp. and three other carmakers on Wednesday, charging that greenhouse gases from their vehicles have cost the state millions of dollars.
State Attorney General Bill Lockyer said the lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Northern California was the first of its kind to seek to hold manufacturers liable for the damages caused by their vehicles' emissions.
The lawsuit also names Chrysler Motors Corp., the U.S. arm of Germany's DaimlerChrysler, and the North American units of Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. Ltd.
-------- hmmmm... don't things like lawnmower, weedwackers, etc. pollute more? What about jetliners? Guess they better sue them all! LOL!
.boB - 20 Sep 2006 22:15 GMT > SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California filed suit against Ford Motor Co., > General Motors Corp., Toyota Motor Corp. and three other carmakers on > Wednesday, charging that greenhouse gases from their vehicles have cost > the state millions of dollars. Good, god. What next? Don't answer that!
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Kate - 21 Sep 2006 05:13 GMT The REALLY sad part about it is, the sonsabitches will WIN
Kate Damn I'm glad I left the state of insanity.
>> SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California filed suit against Ford Motor Co., >> General Motors Corp., Toyota Motor Corp. and three other carmakers on >> Wednesday, charging that greenhouse gases from their vehicles have cost >> the state millions of dollars. > > Good, god. What next? Don't answer that! Michael Johnson, PE - 21 Sep 2006 07:14 GMT I know this would never happen but I would like to see ALL automakers immediately stop shipping new cars to California. They want to stop global warming, that would be a good start. I swear, that state must be chock full of complete idiots.
> The REALLY sad part about it is, the sonsabitches will WIN > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> the state millions of dollars. >> Good, god. What next? Don't answer that! Caesar Romano - 21 Sep 2006 10:28 GMT >I know this would never happen but I would like to see ALL automakers >immediately stop shipping new cars to California. They want to stop >global warming, that would be a good start. I swear, that state must be >chock full of complete idiots. No, it's full of lawyers and wet backs.
Michael Johnson, PE - 21 Sep 2006 14:22 GMT >> I know this would never happen but I would like to see ALL automakers >> immediately stop shipping new cars to California. They want to stop >> global warming, that would be a good start. I swear, that state must be >> chock full of complete idiots. > > No, it's full of lawyers and wet backs. I live in the Washington, DC area and we have the highest concentration of lawyers of anywhere in the country. No one here would put up with such nonsense so I can't attribute it all to lawyers. There has to be another component out there that is behind all that stupidity. If I had to guess it would be the far left wing, environmental wacko, lunatics running the political asylum. To me it looks like San Fransisco is the puppet master for the rest of the state. It also looks like Arnold has caught the loony bug too. I think he forgot why he ran in the first place and is willing to whore himself out to get re-elected.
elaich - 21 Sep 2006 16:00 GMT > I swear, that state must be > chock full of complete idiots. No, it's full of common, ordinary people just like any other state. In fact, the county I live in is quite hicky. What California has that few other states have is a well heeled group of lobbyists and wacko liberals, who file suits against anything and everything. Almost every proposition that is passed by the voting public is held up in court before it can become law.
Michael Johnson, PE - 21 Sep 2006 18:24 GMT >> I swear, that state must be >> chock full of complete idiots. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that is passed by the voting public is held up in court before it can > become law. More of you normal people need to come out and vote then. California has two of the most wacko liberal Senators any state has sent to Congress. I think there are far fewer of those "normal" people than you realize. ;)
elaich - 22 Sep 2006 03:03 GMT > More of you normal people need to come out and vote then. California > has two of the most wacko liberal Senators any state has sent to > Congress. I think there are far fewer of those "normal" people than > you realize. ;) Yeah, but we have the "Guvernator." What other state can claim that? ;)
I grew up in NC, lived in both VA and WV, and aside from the lack of a Southern accent, I can hardly tell the difference between the people here and those other states. Places like Hollywood, San Francisco, and LA get all the headlines. You're right, voter apathy here is extreme - and the special interest groups get their supporters in the big cities all in a frenzy, so that they usually carry the vote. The typical rural Californian is more like a Southerner than anything else. In fact, many of them are descended from the Okies, and some still carry a distinct Southern twang in their dialect.
BTW, where in hell is Spike these days? He could chime in on this.
Jim Warman - 21 Sep 2006 05:27 GMT I'm considering suing the estate of John Smeaton..... In 1756, Smeaton first developed modern concrete...
Many years ago, as a child, I was learning to ride my very first bicycle. I took a tumble on a concrete sidewalk and skinned my knees. Since then, my life has been greatly affected by the knowledge that falling on concrete could possibly result in skinned knees..... very stressful, as you can imagine. Were it not for Smeatons work, I would have fallen on a dirt path and, without this overwhelming knowledge that falling on concrete will hurt, there is every chance I could have been King... errrrr.... I meant, Prime Minister of Canada....
OTOH, I could have named God and Mother Nature as co-respondants in a class action suit regarding dirty pants knees....
lab~rat >:-) - 21 Sep 2006 13:15 GMT >SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California filed suit against Ford Motor Co., >General Motors Corp., Toyota Motor Corp. and three other carmakers on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >hmmmm... don't things like lawnmower, weedwackers, etc. pollute more? >What about jetliners? Guess they better sue them all! LOL! Related story, I'm suing my refrigerator because some of my food went bad... -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Michael Johnson, PE - 21 Sep 2006 14:24 GMT lab~rat >:-) wrote:
>> SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California filed suit against Ford Motor Co., >> General Motors Corp., Toyota Motor Corp. and three other carmakers on [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Related story, I'm suing my refrigerator because some of my food went > bad... I cut myself yesterday so Henkel will be hearing from my attorney.
Mark Henry - 21 Sep 2006 13:36 GMT My next door neighbor and his wife work at the local RJR Tobacco plant and couldn't believe it when big tobacco started being held liable for people dieing from smoking. They both smoke and said "What, did all these people really believe that smoking was risk free? Did they think the warnings on the packs was a joke?"
So, you'll forgive me when I say that yes, if this makes it to court that the automakers will probably be forced to do or pay *something* for our sins. it has become the American way to drive ourselves into the dirt as deep as possible and then blame the people that made the shovel for not providing a ladder to get ourselves back out.
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