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Mike - 29 Oct 2006 04:42 GMT
Common parts cut car costs
By Michelle Krebs
MOTOR MATTERS
Published October 27, 2006

Detroit automakers suffer a $2,400-per-vehicle profit disadvantage
compared to Japan's top automakers, according to a new study, but
contrary to what company officials say, it isn't solely the result of
uncontrollable health care costs.
   Laurie Harbour-Felax, president of the newly formed Detroit-based
consulting firm Harbour-Felax Group, and her father, Jim Harbour, were
frustrated hearing that health care costs were to blame for Detroit's
woes.
   What they found was, indeed, skyrocketing health care costs
accounted for the bulk -- $1,500 -- of the $2,400 profit gap. But the
remainder was made up of some items that the automakers could control.
They found the controllable portion falls into three major areas:
revenue per vehicle, labor issues, and product design and parts
commonality.
   "Revenue per vehicle is a huge issue," said Mrs. Harbour-Felax in
an interview. "In 2005, Detroit automakers instituted employee pricing
programs and huge incentives that killed them."
   She notes that when GM dropped employee pricing, lowered incentives
and shifted to value pricing, the profit picture turned around
dramatically.
   The study examined labor issues, such as absenteeism, relief time
of workers, the number of job classifications, and quantified what
those factors cost automakers. It was several hundred dollars per
vehicle, depending on the manufacturer. The information in the study
certainly will be used by automakers to negotiate their national
contracts with the UAW, which expire in September 2007.
   The third part of the profit gap is in product design and product
commonality, or the lack of commonality. "I believe that's the biggest
area of opportunity," said Mrs. Harbour-Felax, who visited 50 supplier
plants to get a sense of how well manufacturers are doing in
commonizing parts -- or not.
   Detroit automakers have talked the commonizing game for 20 years,
but, she said, organizational structures, corporate cultures and
executive reward systems have restricted its expansion. The companies
have restructured and could enjoy significant savings. She said GM has
done the best job of commonizing globally. But one Detroit automaker
that she wouldn't name still has 81 different side-view mirrors. Some
are used in tiny quantities, whereas 10 different mirrors are used on
80 percent of the vehicles the manufacturer sells.
   "We estimated $1,000 to $1,500 a car can be saved by Detroit
manufacturers. That's billions of dollars. And I actually think that's
conservative," Mrs. Harbour-Felax said.
   By comparison, Mrs. Harbour-Felax learned by visiting supplier
plants for the study that Toyota saved $1,000 per car in the past five
years by commonizing platforms globally and commonizing parts that the
customer doesn't see. For instance, Toyota has only seven different
firewalls -- the insulation in the engine compartment that lines the
wall to the passenger compartment. They are identical in shape, all of
them. The only difference is in size. That means, the parts that hang
to the firewall are common as well.
   "The savings through the supply chain can be exponential by
commonizing." She said. Can Detroit ever close the gap with the
Japanese?
   "I'm cautiously optimistic," she said. "They've all put strategies
in place -- now they need to execute the strategy. They can't falter in
that or they'll struggle. And they've got to do it faster."
   However, she added, the gap will never be closed entirely as long
as the U.S. government stays out of health care and exchange rates.
"The Big Three can do everything known to man, but the yen will still
drive the gap," she said. In September alone, she noted, the exchange
rate went from 113 yen to 118 yen to the U.S. dollar. "That five-point
change created $4 billion that went back to Japanese automakers. It was
money in their pocket that can go into new product."
   Meanwhile, Mrs. Harbour-Felax's consulting firm will focus on
transforming small-to-middle-size suppliers and prepare them for the
future. "I see the next five to 10 years being make-or-break for the
supply base. I want to help them gain perspective and understanding on
how the automakers think, breathe and do things so they are prepared,"
she said.
Brent P - 29 Oct 2006 08:02 GMT
>     Detroit automakers have talked the commonizing game for 20 years,
> but, she said, organizational structures, corporate cultures and
> executive reward systems have restricted its expansion.

Huh? Late 70s through the mid 1980s was the era of badge engineering. Not
only was there part commonality but it was entirely the same damn car
with different badges. The ultimate in commonizing.

>     By comparison, Mrs. Harbour-Felax learned by visiting supplier
> plants for the study that Toyota saved $1,000 per car in the past five
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> them. The only difference is in size. That means, the parts that hang
> to the firewall are common as well.

This woman needs to look under the hood of Ford and GM cars. Lots of
common parts that 'hang from the firewall'.
Backyard Mechanic - 29 Oct 2006 17:42 GMT
>>     Detroit automakers have talked the commonizing game for 20 years,
>> but, she said, organizational structures, corporate cultures and
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> This woman needs to look under the hood of Ford and GM cars. Lots of
> common parts that 'hang from the firewall'.

Why let facts get in the way of making a good america bashing point?

My brother complained that the Harrison compressor was made in 13
differnt configurations for GM cars and 4 for the same engine in the same
platform, but different badges.  Of course it was easier and cheaper to
configure them on the compressor assy line than to do it at the auto
plant.. 'just in time' and all.

And I'm pretty sure that Americans all do the same as Toyota.. the
problem is there are two many different platform models in the same
division.  But wait... didnt Toyota do that as well?

Naw... I hate to bust her bubble but 'just-in-time' is as big a money
waster as any of these aspects, it's just that the accountants and MBA's
'know how to figure'; and the main problem IS the burden of the retiree
and employee benefits.

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Brent P - 29 Oct 2006 23:22 GMT
>> This woman needs to look under the hood of Ford and GM cars. Lots of
>> common parts that 'hang from the firewall'.

> Why let facts get in the way of making a good america bashing point?

> My brother complained that the Harrison compressor was made in 13
> differnt configurations for GM cars and 4 for the same engine in the same
> platform, but different badges.  Of course it was easier and cheaper to
> configure them on the compressor assy line than to do it at the auto
> plant.. 'just in time' and all.

Configurations are cost savers and good design practice. It allows huge
amounts of flexibility while having almost all the cost savings of common
parts. The X1 compressor is different from the X2 compressor because it
has a difference size orifice kind of thing...

Japanese cars also have lots of subtle differences like this.

> Naw... I hate to bust her bubble but 'just-in-time' is as big a money
> waster as any of these aspects, it's just that the accountants and MBA's
> 'know how to figure'; and the main problem IS the burden of the retiree
> and employee benefits.

I always call it just-too-late.

Recently I got to go out to some dealers that sell the products I work on
these days. This one dealer practiced just-too-late inventory system. Guy
wanted the product but needed it _today_ not tomorrow. I've walked out of
numerous stores because of just-too-late inventory. I've learned to go to
the ones that have the largest inventories first to save myself the
hassle.

Retiree benefits is clearly a bigger burden for the big three. Even if
the Japanese manufacturers offered the same benefits, they would have the
advantage of having far fewer retirees in the USA.

Actually I think the big three could handle the benefits if they didn't
have to pay UAW members for not working. I can see having a severance
package, but reporting to 'job centers' to sit on their a.s is nonsense.
Give them a severance package and some help with putting together a good
resume and maybe they can just go work making another product or working
for toyota. It's as if the guy who put air conditioning compressors on
engines for ford can only do that, nothing else... if that's truely the
case the guy really needs help in a bad way.
Backyard Mechanic - 30 Oct 2006 00:32 GMT
I recall seeing a Fox Mustang front end grafted onto a Fairmont wagon in
some mag back in the 80's...  minor changes to the dog-house structure was
all that was needed.

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WindsorFox - 30 Oct 2006 03:41 GMT
> I recall seeing a Fox Mustang front end grafted onto a Fairmont wagon in
> some mag back in the 80's...  minor changes to the dog-house structure was
> all that was needed.

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Backyard Mechanic - 30 Oct 2006 20:15 GMT
>> I recall seeing a Fox Mustang front end grafted onto a Fairmont wagon
>> in some mag back in the 80's...  minor changes to the dog-house
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Usefulness - 2
> Randomness - 10

Irony - 10

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