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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / November 2006200,200 - Frog update
TFrog has moved well past 200,000 miles, and I do mean moved well. Fixing that leaky intake gasket makes TFrog run every bit as well as it did at 150,000. It's been rejuvenated. It also passed the emissions test with FLYING colors, once the new Dynomax H-pipe was installed. Should be good for at least another ten years. I don't notice any difference in power or quickness, but it's nice to know that I can suck on the exhaust pipes without getting a headache. CFrog, of course, has just had the transmission overhaul with shift kit installed. The one-two shift was, at first, very hard, and it was easy enough to chirp the tires going into second. After about one week, that seems to have smoothed out. Still shifts faster than it used to, but without the jarring lurch forward. And I haven't heard that tire chirp since... Is this normal with a shift kit? Or is this change a bad sign? Oh... adding insult to injury, the back window on CFrog has now come separated from the curtain along the bottom. I won't be driving that car in inclement weather anytime soon. Looks like it's getting a new convertible top well before the spring, as I'd planned... dwight www.tfrog93.com TFrog 1993 LX 5.0 hatchback 5-speed CFrog 1993 GT convertible automatic Inspections & repairs in October: $3,500 > TFrog has moved well past 200,000 miles, and I do mean moved well. Fixing > that leaky intake gasket makes TFrog run every bit as well as it did at [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > CFrog 1993 GT convertible automatic > Inspections & repairs in October: $3,500 I installed a B&M Shift Improver kit in my 89 back around 91, it did the same thing except the hard shifts stopped suddenly after a really hard shift making a left turn across traffic. I had stepped into it a little, it shifted really hard, breaking the tires loose for a moment, then it shifted smoother for the next 100k miles. Arlie >> TFrog has moved well past 200,000 miles, and I do mean moved well. Fixing >> that leaky intake gasket makes TFrog run every bit as well as it did at [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Arlie Yeah, I was hoping this was "normal" for a shift kit. I was having fun, launching at WOT to get that satisfying shift, then it stopped doing it... Oh, well. dwight > >> CFrog, of course, has just had the transmission overhaul with shift kit > >> installed. The one-two shift was, at first, very hard, and it was easy > >> enough to chirp the tires going into second. After about one week, that > >> seems to have smoothed out. Still shifts faster than it used to, but > >> without the jarring lurch forward. And I haven't heard that tire chirp > >> since... Is this normal with a shift kit? Or is this change a bad sign? > > I installed a B&M Shift Improver kit in my 89 back around 91, it did the > > same thing except the hard shifts stopped suddenly after a really hard [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > launching at WOT to get that satisfying shift, then it stopped doing it... > Oh, well. Well if that's normal my shift kit isn't. If I don't let up on the go pedal the tires will chirp on the 1-2 shift. I've had the shift kit installed for 4 years and it's never changed. I went back to a 3:73 diff from the 4:10's with the difference being that I don't light up the tires like I used to do. What shift kit did you have installed? Mine was a Transgo HD2 Reprogramming kit.  SignatureRichard '94 GT 'vert Under Drive Pulleys Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit High Stall Torque Converter 3:73 Gears Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded) FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft FRPP M5400-A Suspension Laser Red > CFrog, of course, has just had the transmission overhaul with shift kit > installed. The one-two shift was, at first, very hard, and it was easy > enough to chirp the tires going into second. After about one week, that > seems to have smoothed out. Still shifts faster than it used to, but without > the jarring lurch forward. And I haven't heard that tire chirp since... Is > this normal with a shift kit? Or is this change a bad sign? I suspect that you've learned to slighly ease off the throttle just as it shifts. Make a point of holding the throttle at about 1/4 throttle and it should still chirp on the 1 - 2 shift. SignatureRichard '94 GT 'vert Under Drive Pulleys Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit High Stall Torque Converter 3:73 Gears Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded) FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft FRPP M5400-A Suspension Laser Red >> CFrog, of course, has just had the transmission overhaul with shift kit >> installed. The one-two shift was, at first, very hard, and it was easy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > shifts. Make a point of holding the throttle at about 1/4 throttle and it > should still chirp on the 1 - 2 shift. I'll let y'all know if I can replicate it. But, believe me, while I WAS practicing controlling that shift point, I was talking about holding the go pedal to the floor here. I lost my chirp. dwight > I'll let y'all know if I can replicate it. But, believe me, while I WAS > practicing controlling that shift point, I was talking about holding the go > pedal to the floor here. I lost my chirp. I used to find that mine would chirp harder at about 1/2 throttle than it would at full throttle. I didn't always get that tire chirp at full throttle but it sure did shift fast. Erik D. No cool cars > TFrog has moved well past 200,000 miles, and I do mean moved well. Fixing > that leaky intake gasket makes TFrog run every bit as well as it did at [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > CFrog 1993 GT convertible automatic > Inspections & repairs in October: $3,500 Well I'm glad to hear the Frog's ails have been repaired. Signature"wow you guys are still in business ? I still have all of your ip ranges in my "firewalled until second coming of christ" list. The antics and lies of your esteemed CEO saw to that." - Some Bastard >> TFrog has moved well past 200,000 miles, and I do mean moved well. Fixing >> that leaky intake gasket makes TFrog run every bit as well as it did at [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Well I'm glad to hear the Frog's ails have been repaired. Hah! Not all of 'em. There's always something else on a 13-year-old daily driver. I need to have the defroster motor replaced (and this is getting more urgent, as the weather gets colder), and I'm getting a noise up front that sounds like another water pump is getting ready to go. Of course, that could just be the serpentine belt (fingers crossed), but I think not. dwight Hey, Froggy, do you keep good maintenece records? If so, any chance you post wear out points/mileage numbers for components like alternator, water & fuel pumps, brake parts, sensors, etc. Patrick '93 Mustang > TFrog has moved well past 200,000 miles, and I do mean moved well. Fixing > that leaky intake gasket makes TFrog run every bit as well as it did at [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > CFrog 1993 GT convertible automatic > Inspections & repairs in October: $3,500 > Hey, Froggy, do you keep good maintenece records? If so, any chance > you post wear out points/mileage numbers for components like > alternator, water & fuel pumps, brake parts, sensors, etc. > > Patrick > '93 Mustang Are you kidding? Hell, man, we MOVED last year. Somewhere, there's a cardboard box with a BULGING file folder of bills from the previous years. I tried to keep every receipt from TFrog... Might make an interesting project for some cold, winter day when I dare not venture outside. :() > Might make an interesting project for some cold, winter day when I dare not > venture outside. > > :() See, we don't have those here. Signature"wow you guys are still in business ? I still have all of your ip ranges in my "firewalled until second coming of christ" list. The antics and lies of your esteemed CEO saw to that." - Some Bastard > > Might make an interesting project for some cold, winter day when I dare not > > venture outside. > > > > :() > > See, we don't have those here. LOL!! Yeah it was nice and chilly this morning at about 42! We do get those pesky hurricanes every now and then though. Erik D. No cool cars >>> Might make an interesting project for some cold, winter day when I dare > not [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Erik D. > No cool cars I was wondering if you had completely disappeared after "the incident." There's a guy on one of the local boards that had his '71 Vette flooded. I amazingly woke up to 38 degrees on Friday morning. Signature"wow you guys are still in business ? I still have all of your ip ranges in my "firewalled until second coming of christ" list. The antics and lies of your esteemed CEO saw to that." - Some Bastard >Oh... adding insult to injury, the back window on CFrog has now come >separated from the curtain along the bottom. I won't be driving that car in >inclement weather anytime soon. Looks like it's getting a new convertible >top well before the spring, as I'd planned... That happened to me on my Camaro and I got some silicone adhesive and fixed it. Be sure you clean the surface well first. -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? >>Oh... adding insult to injury, the back window on CFrog has now come >>separated from the curtain along the bottom. I won't be driving that car [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > lab~rat >:-) That's fine for a Camaro. dwight >>> Oh... adding insult to injury, the back window on CFrog has now come >>> separated from the curtain along the bottom. I won't be driving that car [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > dwight Actually I did that on a 69 Ford XL vert too, but yeah, it made me laugh... Signature"wow you guys are still in business ? I still have all of your ip ranges in my "firewalled until second coming of christ" list. The antics and lies of your esteemed CEO saw to that." - Some Bastard >>>> Oh... adding insult to injury, the back window on CFrog has now come >>>> separated from the curtain along the bottom. I won't be driving that [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Actually I did that on a 69 Ford XL vert too, but yeah, it made me > laugh... Yeah, I couldn't resist that setup. Sounds like the way to go, for a temporary fix. The top is definitely the weakest point in the look of the car - everything else is fine, other than some grey rubbed off around the fog lights up front. Great looking car, if you can get past the ratty top. Come to think of it, my wife is expecting me to have the top replaced in the spring. If I spent $800-$1,000 NOW, on top of the big bills last month, she'd probably hate my cars even more. Maybe a little adhesive would smooth things over... :() >>>>> Oh... adding insult to injury, the back window on CFrog has now come >>>>> separated from the curtain along the bottom. I won't be driving that [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > :() Oh, you know I don't know why this just came to me now. When I was building my house and just after I moved in, there was an older guy in his 60's in a bright almost sky blue 84-85 Mustang vert. He and what I assume is his wife were taking care of / cleaning out the house of what I assume to be one of their elderly parents. He was in and out at all times, I remember the car sounded VERY mean. Anyway as I would pass and see the car at least 4 times a week, I witnessed the bottom of the back glass coming loose and him trying numerous times in vain to repair it. He had it taped up with duct tape for almost a week and after removing the tape it stayed for a while but fell out again. He did this 4 or 5 times and finally replaced the top. Signature"wow you guys are still in business ? I still have all of your ip ranges in my "firewalled until second coming of christ" list. The antics and lies of your esteemed CEO saw to that." - Some Bastard
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