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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / December 2006

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Arizona New Emissions Law Approved by EPA!

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Laurie S. - 16 Dec 2006 19:17 GMT
Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed by
the governor almost two years ago. Starting in January, all collectible
vehicles (15 years or older) no longer will have to go through emissions
testing. The vehicles must have collectible insurance and not be daily
drivers. You will have to show proof of that type of insurance when
registering or changing your vehicle record.

The law also includes motorcyles in Pima County, but not Maricopa County.
Arizona is the only state that requires emissions testing on motorcycles.

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Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7
Spike - 16 Dec 2006 19:44 GMT
>Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed by
>the governor almost two years ago. Starting in January, all collectible
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>Laurie S.
>Thunder Snake #7

The insurance/non-daily driver part would bother me. A great many
drive their cars everyday and are just as avid bout them.  In CA, I
can use a standard insurance company policy to cover my car whether
it's driven daily or a trailer queen. All I had to do was document the
value, and that's what it is covered for. So I can drive it either
daily or just for shows and such and still be covered.

On another subject, what did you think of the Fat Man R&P system?
Laurie S. - 16 Dec 2006 23:59 GMT
> >Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed by
> >the governor almost two years ago. Starting in January, all collectible
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>
> On another subject, what did you think of the Fat Man R&P system?

This is just a first step for us.  Once it's in place, we're going to work
toward expanding its scope.  Our foot is in the door.  ;)

I don't know anything about the Fat Man system.  I have Randall's rack and
pinion and it looks great.  Unfortunately, I haven't been able to test drive
it yet because the 390 is out of the car.

Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7
Spike - 19 Dec 2006 01:28 GMT
Sorry, I did "mis-spoke" it was Randalls I was thinking of.... but I
am in the midst of shopping for such a system and it's like going to
successive car lots. After about the third one, you can not recall
which had the car with what options at which price?????? :0)

>> >Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed
>by
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>Laurie S.
>Thunder Snake #7
Brent P - 17 Dec 2006 09:16 GMT
> The insurance/non-daily driver part would bother me. A great many
> drive their cars everyday and are just as avid bout them.  In CA, I
> can use a standard insurance company policy to cover my car whether
> it's driven daily or a trailer queen. All I had to do was document the
> value, and that's what it is covered for. So I can drive it either
> daily or just for shows and such and still be covered.

It all depends on the fine details of collector status in AZ. In IL,
antique plates technically mean you can only drive the car for it to be
serviced and in parades. This is never enforced as far as I can tell as I
have seen AV plates used on everything upto and including daily drivers.
Les Benn - 16 Dec 2006 19:56 GMT
register the car in a different county .. screw the government. They already
rape everyone on tags and insurance in AZ.

> Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed by
> the governor almost two years ago. Starting in January, all collectible
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Laurie S.
> Thunder Snake #7
Laurie S. - 17 Dec 2006 01:29 GMT
> register the car in a different county .. screw the government. They already
> rape everyone on tags and insurance in AZ.

That's a pain to do and added expense if you don't have relatives or friends
in another county.  Now we won't have to do that at all.

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Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7

> > Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed by
> > the governor almost two years ago. Starting in January, all collectible
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> > Laurie S.
> > Thunder Snake #7
dwight - 16 Dec 2006 22:07 GMT
> Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed by
> the governor almost two years ago. Starting in January, all collectible
> vehicles (15 years or older) no longer will have to go through emissions
> testing. The vehicles must have collectible insurance and not be daily
> drivers. You will have to show proof of that type of insurance when
> registering or changing your vehicle record.

What determines "daily driver"? Is there a limitation on annual mileage?

I think even Pennsylvania excludes cars driven less than 5,000 miles per
year.

> The law also includes motorcyles in Pima County, but not Maricopa County.
> Arizona is the only state that requires emissions testing on motorcycles.

I take it that the motorcycles in Pima County are a particularly particulate
sort.

dwight
Laurie S. - 17 Dec 2006 01:32 GMT
> > Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed by
> > the governor almost two years ago. Starting in January, all collectible
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> dwight

Nope, the Pima County motorcycles are clean, it's the Maricopa County ones
that are dirty.  LOL

You'll have to prove you have collectible insurance to qualify for the
emissions waiver.  There isn't any mileage limit stated, which is good for
me.  I have Hagerty insurance for both my Mustangs and I have no mileage
limits on my policy.  :)

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Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7
dwight - 17 Dec 2006 02:42 GMT
>> > Yesterday, the EPA approved Arizona's new emissions law that was passed
> by
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> Laurie S.
> Thunder Snake #7

Y'know what? Forget about it. The Frogs would qualify for classic plates
next year (or the year after?), but I don't see the point. Pennsylvania
application:

"The use of antique and classic plates is governed by Section 1340 of the
Pennsylvania Vehicle Code which states: "It is unlawful for any person to
operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique and classic registration plates
for general daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to
participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional
transportation and similar uses." Occasional transportation and similar uses
is defined as one day a week."

The classic tag is twice the price of my personal plate.

dwight
 
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