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Wow, I haven't visited anything related to USENET in quite a while. I didn't even set it up when I got my current laptop. I thought I'd stop by ol' RAMFM and see if it was still alive. I guess it is, however nothing like the good ol' days... I was amazed to see through the Google Groups stats that my old AOL address is still the #4 poster in the history of the group. Considering I haven't been on AOL for at least 5 years, I guess I had some time on my hands back then. Of course Patrick is still leading the charge. Although I haven't had a Mustang since New NoOp showed up back around 1999, my father just picked up one of the triple white limited edition converts a couple of months ago. He's in the process of doing a lot of work on it to get it back near original condition. It has a LONG ways to go too! I still miss having a 5.0, which is what brought me to this group back around 1996. I haven't ruled out getting another one as it would be a good car for me to drive to the park and ride 4 days a week to leave it for 11 hours. But I doubt that I'll find one cheap enough that hasn't been abused. The nicer ones I see these days are still asking in the $7-8K range, which is about half what was paid for them back in the late 80's, early 90's. Considering I can get a 2006 GTO with the LS2, 6speed, and around 10,000 miles on it for under $25K these days, it can be hard to look back to the old 5.0's. At the same time, I could probably pay cash for the Mustang as opposed to still having to finance the GTO. Of course the warranty on the GTO would be nice too, as I've spent $8000 in the last two years on my 99 Ranger to have a new long block and the trans "fixed" (not rebuild, mind you). For that $8000, I could have probably found a 90's notchback with around 50,000 miles on it. Oh well, I thought I'd stop by and take a look at the place. With the web-based forums, it's obviously not what it once was. It's almost "exclusive" again though, since nobody seems to pay attention to USENET anymore. Hmmmm, I should see if I can find Anthony again. Last I heard from him he was in Texas. Aloha, Steve The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... > Wow, > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Steve > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... Glad to see you again, Steve. Happy New Year, among other things... ;) Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC Hey Steve...still got the Buick GS? You could probably sell it these days for a half a bazillion bucks the way the 68-72's have exploded these days! Jimmy > Aloha, > > Steve > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... Hey Joe and Jimmy, I haven't had the GS since 2003. I sold it to a guy back in Jersey who was doing a frame-off on a 71 GS455 convert. I think he wanted a matching hardtop to restore. I should shoot him an email to see how it came along. I've got a 72 Skylark, although it's been almost 2 years since it had a motor. I spun a rod bearing while testing it at the track. It still went 13.5 @ 106 mph through the traps in 2nd gear (2.56 open rear). It should be running in the high 11's when done - hopefully. Last I heard was that the short block was together and they were going to measure the length of pushrod that I needed. The costs are down, but the time to finish is long. It's a tradeoff, but I've had plenty of other things that needed the money aimed towards them lately. ~Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 > Hey Steve...still got the Buick GS? You could probably sell it these > days for a half a bazillion bucks the way the 68-72's have exploded [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Steve > > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... > Hey Joe and Jimmy, > > I haven't had the GS since 2003. I sold it to a guy back in Jersey who > was doing a frame-off on a 71 GS455 convert. I think he wanted a > matching hardtop to restore. I should shoot him an email to see how it > came along. If it came out right, it should be in a magazine. ;) > I've got a 72 Skylark, although it's been almost 2 years since it had a > motor. I spun a rod bearing while testing it at the track. It still [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ~Steve > 72 Skylark Custom455 Gotta love 400+ CI motors. I hear ya about the other things that need money, especially when there's the "other half" to consider. Hope things are good on that front as well.. >> Hey Steve...still got the Buick GS? You could probably sell it these >> days for a half a bazillion bucks the way the 68-72's have exploded [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > Steve >> > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... > Hmmmm, I should see if I can find Anthony again. Last I heard from him > he was in Texas. I see a good number of them here in La. too. Are you still way up in the top left corner? > Aloha, > > Steve > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... I thought that was "Assrhino"?? HAND- Yer pal, Needledick...  Signature“I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart > > Hmmmm, I should see if I can find Anthony again. Last I heard from him > > he was in Texas. I see a good number of them here in La. too. Are you > still way up in the top left corner? Yep, I'm not planning to go anywhere. I like it here. Plus it's a good base for going everywhere else. We did Europe (London/Paris) finally in March. British Airways flies direct from Seattle to London. It's hard to beat that. We knew that we'd get hooked on that international travel once we finally got our chance to go. Of course we're still paying for it. Our next trip is hopefully to Rome and throughout the wine country in Italy. We're shooting for around Thanksgiving. > > Aloha, > > > Steve > > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... I thought that was "Assrhino"?? Yep, I was (am?) that too. With a little research, I could probably come up with the other stuff too. > HAND- Yer pal, Needledick... Where's the c.nt bagel when we need one? Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 > -- > "I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement." - Seth > Breidbart > > Steve > > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... I thought that was "Assrhino"?? > > HAND- Yer pal, Needledick... I just realized that I wasn't the original sh.t disturber. I was the original head of the bashing department. Unfortunately Google groups doesn't go back to 1996. I also liked my quote about adding it to my "threat collection" (Dirty Harry). Aw the good ol' days... Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 > I just realized that I wasn't the original sh.t disturber. I was the > original head of the bashing department. Unfortunately Google groups [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Steve > 72 Skylark Custom455 The good old days... According to Google, you were "born" on August 11, 1997 in a post to the Seattle Mariners newsgroup. dwight > > I just realized that I wasn't the original sh.t disturber. I was the > > original head of the bashing department. Unfortunately Google groups [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > dwight Interesting. I was sure it was 1996. But I just found the Auto Trader ad for my 71GS455 when I bought it. I thought it was April 1997 but it was April 1998. I was on Usenet prior to buying that car as it was Anthony who I was on the phone to a few days after purchase when the alternator died on the way to the drag races that Easter. So I had known him before. Thanks for confirming my failing memory... Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 > > I just realized that I wasn't the original sh.t disturber. I was the > > original head of the bashing department. Unfortunately Google groups [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > dwight Here's my first every RAMFM post: From: SEEverist - view profile Date: Sun, Aug 17 1997 12:00 am Email: seever...@aol.com (SEEverist) Groups: rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang Not yet rated Rating: show options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author You can also check on the mustangs to see if they've been damaged by looking for VIN tags. Look on the underside of the doors, trunk (hatch), hood. Also on the fenders on the inside with the hood open and inside the trunk (hatch) on the body panels. Also on the nose cap. Ford put decals with the VIN number attached. If the car was damaged, there is usually a DOT tag without the vin numbers, or the originals have been painted over. Not many people would know to remove them and reattach them after bodywork was done. Steve Good to hear from you. > Wow, > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Steve > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... Hey Michael, I've been to Quantico a total of five times now. It seems like the more I'm there, the busier I find myself with class stuff. I'm going back again in a few weeks, although I don't know how busy we'll be outside of classes. We do have a research project to do a part of the class, which I'll likely do on my own time. I still remember the food you served my first time out - you just don't get that steamed shrimp/prawns around here like that! Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 > Hey Michael, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I still remember the food you served my first time out - you just don't > get that steamed shrimp/prawns around here like that! It's good to hear things are going well for you. We live at the other end of the County now but with the 234 Bypass completed it is a short drive to Quantico from here. Let me know when you get back into town and I'll feed you again and/or we can hit DC and do the tourist thing. The weather here has been very warm this winter so sight seeing is a pleasant experience. Unfortunately my Mustang is laid up in the garage. I think it was down and out the last time I saw you. >> Hey Michael, >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > pleasant experience. Unfortunately my Mustang is laid up in the garage. > I think it was down and out the last time I saw you. That's all those smoggy old Mustangs making the weather warm.... Signature“I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart >>> Hey Michael, >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > That's all those smoggy old Mustangs making the weather warm.... Unfortunately, my Mustang hasn't contributed to the global warming effort for about two years. >>>> Hey Michael, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Unfortunately, my Mustang hasn't contributed to the global warming effort > for about two years. I've got your back. Two times over. dwight >>>>> Hey Michael, >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I've got your back. Two times over. I appreciate that. Although when I did have it running I was lucky to get more than 100 miles to a tank of gas after the blower was installed. Maybe I built up a reserve to keep my torch alive for the last two years. >>>>>> Hey Michael, >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > more than 100 miles to a tank of gas after the blower was installed. Maybe > I built up a reserve to keep my torch alive for the last two years. DAMN! That's bonus EPA points. I'll never complain about my 12 to 15mpg any more. :() > > Hey Michael, > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > pleasant experience. Unfortunately my Mustang is laid up in the garage. > I think it was down and out the last time I saw you. Yep, it was keeping space in the garage. I think the place I'll be staying is up in Dumfries, although I have no idea what I'll have available as far as time goes - so I don't want to commit to anything at this point. Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 >A Guy Named Steve wrote: > I haven't visited anything related to USENET in quite a while. I > didn't even set it up when I got my current laptop. I thought I'd stop > by ol' RAMFM and see if it was still alive. > I guess it is, however nothing like the good ol' days... It has faded quite a bit but is hanging on, I think, largely due to the newer Mustangs' continued popularity. > I was amazed to see through the Google Groups stats that my old AOL > address is still the #4 poster in the history of the group. > Considering I haven't been on AOL for at least 5 years, I guess I had > some time on my hands back then. > Of course Patrick is still leading the charge. Maybe the overall grand total, but I doubt any of the current monthly totals for the last 5-6 years. Most times now I only get time to post a new topic once in a while and then maybe read a few of the replies -- I don't do much back and forth banter anymore. Though my nest is now empty, work/commuting, school, gym time and home projects have sucked up just about all my "disposable" time. > Although I haven't had a Mustang since New NoOp showed up back around > 1999, my father just picked up one of the triple white limited edition > converts a couple of months ago. He's in the process of doing a lot of > work on it to get it back near original condition. It has a LONG ways > to go too! > I still miss having a 5.0, which is what brought me to this group back > around 1996. I haven't ruled out getting another one as it would be a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > $7-8K range, which is about half what was paid for them back in the > late 80's, early 90's. I rarely see any clean Foxes anymore. Most seem to be either neglected basket cases or abused former hacked-up street racers. In my neck of the woods, to see a straight, clean, mostly original 5-oh is pretty rare. > Considering I can get a 2006 GTO with the LS2, 6speed, and around > 10,000 miles on it for under $25K these days, it can be hard to look > back to the old 5.0's. I know. There are so many nice [used] alternatives these days; most making the old Foxes' 225 HP look pretty tame. > At the same time, I could probably pay cash for > the Mustang as opposed to still having to finance the GTO. Of course > the warranty on the GTO would be nice too, as I've spent $8000 in the > last two years on my 99 Ranger to have a new long block and the trans > "fixed" (not rebuild, mind you). For that $8000, I could have probably > found a 90's notchback with around 50,000 miles on it. A 90's hatch with only 50K miles?!? Can they still be found? I thought those days were long past. > Oh well, I thought I'd stop by and take a look at the place. With the > web-based forums, it's obviously not what it once was. It's almost > "exclusive" again though, since nobody seems to pay attention to USENET > anymore. To me the web-based is too dry and sterile. USENET is much more spontaneous and free. > Hmmmm, I should see if I can find Anthony again. Last I heard from him > he was in Texas. Didn't he get out of the Navy? I doubt he'd want to talk to me. We clashed pretty hard before he checked out of RAMFM. While he was a nice guy, and I enjoyed talking to him, (we had traded some old car ads/articles) at the end he drove me crazy because he was so down on any/everything that wasn't his latest and greatest project. Last I knew he had plans for a Miata he had bought. > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... Good to see you're still around! I wondered where you had gone. I'm still in the same place. If you ever come around these parts you know you're welcome to take the Cobra for a spin. Patrick '93 Cobra (still looking pretty darn good after 120K miles) > >A Guy Named Steve wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It has faded quite a bit but is hanging on, I think, largely due to the > newer Mustangs' continued popularity. Yes, but the Great Flame Wars seem to have hit their peak around the year 2000. Other than the off-topic political and/or religious crossposts, this group has become downright civil. Dammit. >> I was amazed to see through the Google Groups stats that my old AOL >> address is still the #4 poster in the history of the group. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > empty, work/commuting, school, gym time and home projects have sucked > up just about all my "disposable" time. You need new hobbies. Mine is Law and Order reruns, and I can usually read and type during the commercials. Other than that, I'm working on my landscaping. Obviously, that's a seasonal pursuit, and this ain't the season. >> Although I haven't had a Mustang since New NoOp showed up back around >> 1999, my father just picked up one of the triple white limited edition [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the woods, to see a straight, clean, mostly original 5-oh is pretty > rare. Same up here in these woods - and it seems to have happened overnight. I remember seeing Foxes everywhere, and they're all gone now. The one nice one locally is currently for sale - a red/grey GT, but I have no specifics on it. Other than that, I can go days without seeing one. Remember, the youngest Fox is now 14 years old, and that's an eternity for an automobile. The entire class is entering the "classic" stage, and a very small percentage of them have survived. You used to muse about the Fox as being the 80s version of the '57 Chevy, and it looks like you were right. The question remains whether the old 5.0's will become big-time restoration favorites or whether they'll be allowed to rust off to obscurity. >> Considering I can get a 2006 GTO with the LS2, 6speed, and around >> 10,000 miles on it for under $25K these days, it can be hard to look >> back to the old 5.0's. > > I know. There are so many nice [used] alternatives these days; most > making the old Foxes' 225 HP look pretty tame. (Or, as in 1993, only 205.) You're right. Ironically, the newest generation Mustang has the capability of making the 15 years of Foxes seem like the Mustang IIs, as far as desirability. Not just more oomph, but a more complete package. Those poor old 5.0's may be destined to die off at the track and may never be seen as collectibles. Time will tell. >> At the same time, I could probably pay cash for >> the Mustang as opposed to still having to finance the GTO. Of course [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > A 90's hatch with only 50K miles?!? Can they still be found? I > thought those days were long past. (Just saw a listing for an '89, I believe, with an advertised 23,000 on the clock. To me, having to FEW miles on a car of that age might be as problematic as too MANY miles.) >> Oh well, I thought I'd stop by and take a look at the place. With the >> web-based forums, it's obviously not what it once was. It's almost [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > To me the web-based is too dry and sterile. USENET is much more > spontaneous and free. ...and left now to the Chosen Few. dwight > >> I haven't visited anything related to USENET in quite a while. I > >> didn't even set it up when I got my current laptop. I thought I'd stop > >> by ol' RAMFM and see if it was still alive. > >> I guess it is, however nothing like the good ol' days... > > It has faded quite a bit but is hanging on, I think, largely due to the > > newer Mustangs' continued popularity. > Yes, but the Great Flame Wars seem to have hit their peak around the year > 2000. Other than the off-topic political and/or religious crossposts, this > group has become downright civil. Dammit. I think those days are forever gone. The internet is no longer a new toy, and the kids have found/know the niches they enjoy and trolling a NG isn't one of them anymore. > >> Of course Patrick is still leading the charge. > > Maybe the overall grand total, but I doubt any of the current monthly > > totals for the last 5-6 years. Most times now I only get time to post > > a new topic once in a while and then maybe read a few of the replies -- > > I don't do much back and forth banter anymore. Though my nest is now > > empty, work/commuting, school, gym time and home projects have sucked > > up just about all my "disposable" time. > You need new hobbies. Mine is Law and Order reruns, and I can usually read > and type during the commercials. Other than that, I'm working on my > landscaping. Obviously, that's a seasonal pursuit, and this ain't the > season. I don't watch much TV. At lunch time I'll watch Jon Stewart and ocassionally I'll catch a boxing match, maybe a Curb Appeal/Garden Guy on HGTV, or a nature show, but that's about it. My TV time is a couple hours a week, tops. > > I rarely see any clean Foxes anymore. Most seem to be either neglected > > basket cases or abused former hacked-up street racers. In my neck of > > the woods, to see a straight, clean, mostly original 5-oh is pretty > > rare. > Same up here in these woods - and it seems to have happened overnight. I > remember seeing Foxes everywhere, and they're all gone now. The one nice one > locally is currently for sale - a red/grey GT, but I have no specifics on > it. Other than that, I can go days without seeing one. I saw two today. One an LX 5-oh. It was pretty beat up and had that ugly chrome fender trim and a pair of funky big-tube exhaust extensions welded to the tips of the original tail pipes. Needless to say the car wasn't pretty. The other was very clean looking. It had nice shiny paint and looked straight [from about 50 yards anyway]. It was a red GT wearing chrome Cobra Rs & black-outed headlight covers, was lowered a bit, and had what looked to be a Saleen rear wing -- very mid/late 90's retro. > Remember, the youngest Fox is now 14 years old, and that's an eternity for > an automobile. The entire class is entering the "classic" stage, and a very > small percentage of them have survived. You used to muse about the Fox as > being the 80s version of the '57 Chevy, and it looks like you were right. > The question remains whether the old 5.0's will become big-time restoration > favorites or whether they'll be allowed to rust off to obscurity. While there are some signs of these cars could become "classics" -- there are a few 5-oh resto companies -- I don't know if the automotive enviroment will ever again see the type of perfect storm the first muscle car era saw -- a decade+ decline in factory performance and a huge generation of buyers (the Boomers) wanting to re-live their past coming together. I just don't see it happening, at least not in the same numbers and dollars. Even myself, when my Cobra starts to become more work than pleasure, I don't know if I'll have the desire to turn the wrenches when there will be lots of used, affordable, and much better performing '03-'04 Mach 1s/Cobras, and '05 and up GTs. Especially, when I only have a two-car garage. > >> Considering I can get a 2006 GTO with the LS2, 6speed, and around > >> 10,000 miles on it for under $25K these days, it can be hard to look > >> back to the old 5.0's. > > I know. There are so many nice [used] alternatives these days; most > > making the old Foxes' 225 HP look pretty tame. > (Or, as in 1993, only 205.) You're right. Ironically, the newest generation > Mustang has the capability of making the 15 years of Foxes seem like the > Mustang IIs, as far as desirability. Not just more oomph, but a more > complete package. Those poor old 5.0's may be destined to die off at the > track and may never be seen as collectibles. Time will tell. Good points. > >> At the same time, I could probably pay cash for > >> the Mustang as opposed to still having to finance the GTO. Of course > >> the warranty on the GTO would be nice too, as I've spent $8000 in the > >> last two years on my 99 Ranger to have a new long block and the trans > >> "fixed" (not rebuild, mind you). For that $8000, I could have probably > >> found a 90's notchback with around 50,000 miles on it. > > A 90's hatch with only 50K miles?!? Can they still be found? I > > thought those days were long past. > (Just saw a listing for an '89, I believe, with an advertised 23,000 on the > clock. To me, having to FEW miles on a car of that age might be as > problematic as too MANY miles.) Yes, stored cars can bring their own set of problems. (Our old LTD had a number of them.) The key is how/where they're stored. > >> Oh well, I thought I'd stop by and take a look at the place. With the > >> web-based forums, it's obviously not what it once was. It's almost > >> "exclusive" again though, since nobody seems to pay attention to USENET > >> anymore. > > To me the web-based is too dry and sterile. USENET is much more > > spontaneous and free. > ...and left now to the Chosen Few. Chosen or did you mean crazy? Patrick > I think those days are forever gone. The internet is no longer a new > toy, and the kids have found/know the niches they enjoy and trolling a > NG isn't one of them anymore. You know, as long as I've been away...I do miss seeing triple T on here (TtT). Dems waz da dayz...Hope he's doing well... >> I think those days are forever gone. The internet is no longer a new >> toy, and the kids have found/know the niches they enjoy and trolling a >> NG isn't one of them anymore. > > You know, as long as I've been away...I do miss seeing triple T on here > (TtT). Dems waz da dayz...Hope he's doing well... Anyone heard from Buzz? I sent an email a while back but havn't gotten a response. Signature“I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart >>> I think those days are forever gone. The internet is no longer a new >>> toy, and the kids have found/know the niches they enjoy and trolling a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Anyone heard from Buzz? I sent an email a while back but havn't > gotten a response. :-P Found him... (link munged to protect the spamless) http://ca.geocities.com/purphaze [at] rogers.com/ Signature“I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart > >>> I think those days are forever gone. The internet is no longer a new > >>> toy, and the kids have found/know the niches they enjoy and trolling a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > "I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement." - Seth > Breidbart It's been a while, but I email Buzz updates. Since I haven't had many in a couple of years they've been few and far between. He's active on the Ontario Drags Forums though. I visited him back in 2003 and got to ride in his Mustang to the drag strip where he made several passes. Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 >> I think those days are forever gone. The internet is no longer a new >> toy, and the kids have found/know the niches they enjoy and trolling a >> NG isn't one of them anymore. > > You know, as long as I've been away...I do miss seeing triple T on here > (TtT). Dems waz da dayz...Hope he's doing well... Speak not the name of the Beast, lest ye favor its return. dwight > >A Guy Named Steve wrote: > > It has faded quite a bit but is hanging on, I think, largely due to the > newer Mustangs' continued popularity. That could be, and it could also be relative to some of those web-based sites that include the posts as part of their content. There may be people who participate in this group that have no idea what Usenet was... > > Of course Patrick is still leading the charge. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > empty, work/commuting, school, gym time and home projects have sucked > up just about all my "disposable" time. That's the same with me. My address is at AOL.com and I haven't used that forever. Once I was off AOL, I posted using my peoplepc account. I may have some via Earthlink too, but I'd have to check. I think I munged the address using something like @gs.455 or @gs455.com... > I rarely see any clean Foxes anymore. Most seem to be either neglected > basket cases or abused former hacked-up street racers. In my neck of > the woods, to see a straight, clean, mostly original 5-oh is pretty > rare. I don't normally put myself in places to see the nice ones either. Once in a while I'll see one on Craigslist or something. However it may be a completely different car once you see it in person. They do have the big Mustang show just up the street from my house at Bellevue Community College. I haven't been to it since we moved here in 2003 though. I'm not really one for car shows. > > Considering I can get a 2006 GTO with the LS2, 6speed, and around > > 10,000 miles on it for under $25K these days, it can be hard to look > > back to the old 5.0's. > > I know. There are so many nice [used] alternatives these days; most > making the old Foxes' 225 HP look pretty tame. That's true, but I still like the combination of styling, performance, ease to work on, and gas mileage. It's definitely one of the best ever starting points regardless of which direction you want to go in. > A 90's hatch with only 50K miles?!? Can they still be found? I > thought those days were long past. There's always some more out there. You just need to be in the right place at the right time with the right amount of cash available. > > Hmmmm, I should see if I can find Anthony again. Last I heard from him > > he was in Texas. > > Didn't he get out of the Navy? Yes, he got out several years ago. I caught a baseball game with him not long before he headed back to Texas. > I doubt he'd want to talk to me. We clashed pretty hard before he > checked out of RAMFM. While he was a nice guy, and I enjoyed talking > to him, (we had traded some old car ads/articles) at the end he drove > me crazy because he was so down on any/everything that wasn't his > latest and greatest project. Last I knew he had plans for a Miata he > had bought. I think he still had the Miata when I last saw him, however I have no idea if he still does now. He was working on SVO's for a while too. He liked things pretty technological, while I liked inefficient, big cube motors that I could get in and expect nearly the same results from every weekend. > > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... > > Good to see you're still around! I wondered where you had gone. > > I'm still in the same place. If you ever come around these parts you > know you're welcome to take the Cobra for a spin. I haven't really gone anywhere. We moved from Kirkland to Bellevue about five months after the wedding - a distance of about 20 miles. We've rooted ourselves pretty solidly here and plan to stay for as long as we imagine. I don't find myself in Florida (that's the same place, right?) at all. I've been to Boston for a conference and many trips out to Virginia for training. I think there was something going on in Florida at the end of February. Unfortunately I didn't get in on it in time. Oh well... I'm still waiting for you to come up to the other corner yourself. Are you still in the Air Force? Steve 72 Skylark Custom455 > Patrick > '93 Cobra (still looking pretty darn good after 120K miles) > > I rarely see any clean Foxes anymore. Most seem to be either neglected > > basket cases or abused former hacked-up street racers. In my neck of > > the woods, to see a straight, clean, mostly original 5-oh is pretty > > rare. > I don't normally put myself in places to see the nice ones either. > Once in a while I'll see one on Craigslist or something. However it > may be a completely different car once you see it in person. > They do have the big Mustang show just up the street from my house at > Bellevue Community College. I haven't been to it since we moved here > in 2003 though. I'm not really one for car shows. While I'd rather see the cars working out at a track, car shows are a good place to make contacts with other owners -- a few times these shows are where I found some good local sources for parts and services. > > > Considering I can get a 2006 GTO with the LS2, 6-speed, and around > > > 10,000 miles on it for under $25K these days, it can be hard to look > > > back to the old 5.0's. > > I know. There are so many nice [used] alternatives these days; most > > making the old Foxes' 225 HP look pretty tame. > That's true, but I still like the combination of styling, performance, > ease to work on, and gas mileage. It's definitely one of the best ever > starting points regardless of which direction you want to go in. My thing is facilities. If I had a three-car garage or a pole barn somewhere a project car would be great. But without that, I'll probably opt to get something newer so I can daily drive it and be able to tuck it away every night in the garage. > > A 90's hatch with only 50K miles?!? Can they still be found? I > > thought those days were long past. > There's always some more out there. You just need to be in the right > place at the right time with the right amount of cash available. Oh I'm sure if you look around a bit you can find them, but they're not around sitting in the local used car lots like they used to be. > > > Hmmmm, I should see if I can find Anthony again. Last I heard from him > > > he was in Texas. > > Didn't he get out of the Navy? > Yes, he got out several years ago. I caught a baseball game with him > not long before he headed back to Texas. Gosh, he was in for about 10 years of so when he punched wasn't he? > > I doubt he'd want to talk to me. We clashed pretty hard before he > > checked out of RAMFM. While he was a nice guy, and I enjoyed talking > > to him, (we had traded some old car ads/articles) at the end he drove > > me crazy because he was so down on any/everything that wasn't his > > latest and greatest project. Last I knew he had plans for a Miata he > > had bought. > I think he still had the Miata when I last saw him, however I have no > idea if he still does now. He was working on SVO's for a while too. > He liked things pretty technological, while I liked inefficient, big > cube motors that I could get in and expect nearly the same results from > every weekend. He flipped flopped alot. Late model Cobras, then SVOs, then BMWs & import sports cars, then Miatas and at the very end he was praising classic 60s stuff. > > > The original "sh.t disturber" among other things... Oh yeah... and what was the old statement that was always used... ' I was just minding my own business when...' -- all of a sudden some guy wanted to race me, the cops showed up, something stupid happened? Do you remember that? > > Good to see you're still around! I wondered where you had gone. > > I'm still in the same place. If you ever come around these parts you > > know you're welcome to take the Cobra for a spin. > I haven't really gone anywhere. We moved from Kirkland to Bellevue > about five months after the wedding - a distance of about 20 miles. > We've rooted ourselves pretty solidly here and plan to stay for as long > as we imagine. How's the wife doing? > I don't find myself in Florida (that's the same place, right?) at all. Yep. FL has its good points, but I really miss the West. > I've been to Boston for a conference and many trips out to Virginia for > training. I think there was something going on in Florida at the end > of February. Unfortunately I didn't get in on it in time. Oh well... > I'm still waiting for you to come up to the other corner yourself. > Are you still in the Air Force? For about two more years. Once the kids finish their Bachelors (one will be done in a year the other in a year and a half) I'll retire. Then it'll be about job prospects if we stay here or go somewhere else. Patrick > > > I rarely see any clean Foxes anymore. Most seem to be either neglected > > > basket cases or abused former hacked-up street racers. In my neck of > > > the woods, to see a straight, clean, mostly original 5-oh is pretty > > > rare. > > > I don't normally put myself in places to see the nice ones either. > > Once in a while I'll see one on Craigslist or something. However it > > may be a completely different car once you see it in person. Funny thing, Patrick. Had a kid last year (maybe eve 2005?) at a local car show who just simply could not believe I had a Fox 5.0 GT in original condition. Seemed VERY funny to me but I told him I'd bring it the following week. He said I could get 12-14k for the car...to which I laughed and said that's what they cost new.....PLUS...mine needed work...he was adamant about the price and I said I think you're mistaken but thanks for the kudos...(mine is FAR from close to being perfect) > > They do have the big Mustang show just up the street from my house at > > Bellevue Community College. I haven't been to it since we moved here [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > good place to make contacts with other owners -- a few times these > shows are where I found some good local sources for parts and services. Fantastic point. An example...today..(ok..watch tells me it happened YESTERDAY) weather was fantastic. Washed the stang and took it for a cruise around the neighborhood. GOt a call from a neighbor I see at the local car shows in the Bronx. He calls me and says he saw me in the Mustang and remembered I was the guy who was interested in his 4bbl Pontiac manifold...he calls me and I go to pick it up. Figure it would be a rusted old manifold needing work(but free is free!)...Anyway...it was far from the case. It was sand blasted...like new and ready to rock! I was beside myself! And he gave me a bottle of his homemade Italian wine (RED) TO BOOT! Great guy...not just because of what he did for me but he's really into cars. More interested in what folks actually do for themselves....not the folks wigh deep pockets but those that do what they can. . > My thing is facilities. If I had a three-car garage or a pole barn > somewhere a project car would be great. But without that, I'll > probably opt to get something newer so I can daily drive it and be able > to tuck it away every night in the garage. C'mon Patrick! Don't you remember as kids when none of us had an umbrella to work under? Let alone a garage! If I can keep em all registered and insured...I'll keep em running! WOO HOO! :-) > He flipped flopped alot. Late model Cobras, then SVOs, then BMWs & > import sports cars, then Miatas and at the very end he was praising > classic 60s stuff. He did to that rather thorough filter test (off the top of my head from bobistheoilguy.com ? But I'm old now....however pretty sure that's correct) Jimmy |
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