>I have a 69 mustang with a 351C. What grade of octane should I use & do
> I need to add an additive since we no longer have leaded gas. The
> engine is completely overhauled & I have only filled 1 time with the
> highest octane.
> Thanks nancy m.
> With regard to the unleaded fuel issue, the chief concern has been for the
> possibility of exhaust valve recession (sink or seat wear) when engines
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> I am not sure what version of the 351C engine you have since the 351C was
> not offered from the factory in the 1969 Mustang model year.
My book says the 290/300 HP 351 was offered as an option in '69.
That has to be a Cleveland.
> FYI:
> 2-barrel H-code 351C featured a 9.5:1 compression ratio and a recommended
> a minimum fuel octane level of 94
> 4-barrel M-code 351C featured a 11.0:1 compression ratio and a minimum
> recommended fuel octane level of 99.8
Another way to tell what engine type is to stand on the driver's side of the
engine
accross from the distributor and near the upper left corner of the valve
cover there
is a number stamped, either 2 or 4, and in later years, M.
> Yet another $.02 worth from a proud owner of a 1970 Mach 1 351C M-code
> (searches for the highest octane I can find) @
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>> highest octane.
>> Thanks nancy m.
Grover C. McCoury III - 22 Jan 2007 03:46 GMT
>> With regard to the unleaded fuel issue, the chief concern has been for
>> the possibility of exhaust valve recession (sink or seat wear) when
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> My book says the 290/300 HP 351 was offered as an option in '69.
> That has to be a Cleveland.
FYI: 8-cylinder engines available for the 1969 Mustang are as follows:
302 2V F-code
Boss 302 4V G-code
351W 2V H-code
351W 4V M-code
428 4V CJ Q-code
428 4V CJ Ram Air R-code
390 4V S-code
Boss 429 4V Z-code
Production of the 351C began with the 1970 model year and ended with the
1974 model year.
More information on the Ford 335 series engines (including the 351C) is @
http://www.answers.com/topic/ford-335-engine
Yet another $.02 worth from a proud owner of a 1970 Mach 1 351C 4V M-code @
http://community.webshots.com/album/18644819fHAehGJAjt
goodnigh - 22 Jan 2007 23:30 GMT
>>> I am not sure what version of the 351C engine you have since the 351C
>>> was not offered from the factory in the 1969 Mustang model year.
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> @
> http://community.webshots.com/album/18644819fHAehGJAjt
So the M code is simply a 351 4V. Could be Cleveland or Windsor.
Then the only way to tell is to glance at the engine since there
are obvious physical differences between the two.
My '71 is an M code and is clearly a Cleveland.
mike
Grover C. McCoury III - 23 Jan 2007 00:57 GMT
>>>> I am not sure what version of the 351C engine you have since the 351C
>>>> was not offered from the factory in the 1969 Mustang model year.
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> Then the only way to tell is to glance at the engine since there
> are obvious physical differences between the two.
The M-code referred to 351 4V CID engines as follows:
1969 - Windsor
1970 - Cleveland
1971 - Cleveland
Quick ways to differentiate the 351W and 351C engines are as follows:
- Coolant passes through the intake manifold of a Windsor engine, not in a
Cleveland (features dry manifold)
- The two bolts holding the fuel pump to the block on a Cleveland engine are
positioned vertical in relationship to each other - on the Windsor the bolts
are positioned horizontally
Yet another $.02 worth from a proud owner of a 1970 Mach 1 351C 4V M-code @
http://community.webshots.com/album/18644819fHAehGJAjt
goodnigh - 23 Jan 2007 01:10 GMT
>>>>> I am not sure what version of the 351C engine you have since the 351C
>>>>> was not offered from the factory in the 1969 Mustang model year.
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> Yet another $.02 worth from a proud owner of a 1970 Mach 1 351C 4V M-code
> @ http://community.webshots.com/album/18644819fHAehGJAjt
And the distributor is tilted towards the passenger on the Cleveland along
with large valve covers using 8 bolts and not six as on the Windsor :)
Jason O - 23 Jan 2007 01:46 GMT
>>>> I am not sure what version of the 351C engine you have since the 351C
>>>> was not offered from the factory in the 1969 Mustang model year.
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>
> mike
The '69 M-code is definitely a Windsor. The '70-'71 M-code is a
Cleveland. I didn't think of this on the first read-through. Whoops.
The compression ratio for the 1969 2v H-code 351W is 9.5:1, and the 4v
M-code is 10.7:1. I'd use premium gas in the M and maybe mid-grade in
the H, listening for ping, and keeping in mind the advance curve. The
Cleveland's block is obviously visually bigger, although its deck height
is a smidgen shorter than the Windsor's. There are five versions of the
Cleveland, in all, but you'll only commonly see two. I've only seen a
few Boss 351s and one 351CJ.
There was also a 302 Cleveland, but it was only produced in Australia.

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Jason O - 23 Jan 2007 02:32 GMT
>>>>> I am not sure what version of the 351C engine you have since the
>>>>> 351C was not offered from the factory in the 1969 Mustang model year.
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> Cleveland's block is obviously visually bigger, although its deck height
> is a smidgen shorter than the Windsor's. There are five versions of the
To clarify - 351 - five versions of this, in addition to the aussie 302C.
> Cleveland, in all, but you'll only commonly see two. I've only seen a
> few Boss 351s and one 351CJ.
>
> There was also a 302 Cleveland, but it was only produced in Australia.

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