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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / February 2007

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? About Remote Start - 2002 Mustang Coupe 3.8L Automatic

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bml@ync.net - 07 Feb 2007 16:46 GMT
Hello,

Thanks for any help you can provide. I just bought a 2002 Coupe 3.8L
Automatic. The guy who sold it to me had a remote start installed, it
seems to work just fine. But he could only give me one key, he said
the other one was used for the remote start. I asked him if I could
unplug it and he said he had no idea where it was in the car. So now I
would like to make some duplicate PATS keys but I only have one key so
I would need to go to the dealer and pay. Is it possible the key is
inserted into the remote start module? The more I think about it, they
can't work that way because an extra key would be in the car for the
thief. Was the chip probably removed from the key and placed in the
steering column? And if this was the case, Could I get a blank cut in
the shape of my key, and would it work to start the car because the
chip it needs is already in the steering column? Thanks for your
thoughts and any help you can provide.

Brian
.boB - 08 Feb 2007 00:34 GMT
> Hello,
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> Brian

   When we installed the remote start on my wife's
2001 Cougar, they used some kind of relay to bypass the
PATS.  We still have both keys.

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bml@ync.net - 08 Feb 2007 14:45 GMT
.boB,

Thanks for your input. I guess that's what I was thinking but I wasn't
sure if these bypass relays actually use a key or not. The information
on the web about them is very minimal.

I'm guessing they broke the key open and put the PATS chip in the
steering column. I ordered two blank PATS keys on Ebay and I am going
to get them cut at the hardware store. If they work, I guess I'll know
where the other key (or at least part of it is).

Can anyone else confirm that the physical key is NOT used inside the
PATS bypass relay?

Thanks again for your help.

Brian
Carfan - 18 Feb 2007 02:42 GMT
They likely glued the key near the steering column - it is common to do.

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> Brian
Blue Gator - 19 Feb 2007 02:04 GMT
> They likely glued the key near the steering column - it is common to do.
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>>Brian

On mine they had to wrap a wire around the key.  The installer broke off
the key so it couldn't be used and installed it inside the steering
column.  I made an extra key before giving one to the installer.
 
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