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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / March 2007I Gotta Laugh
WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out with new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!" I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if that can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best shot at it. Man, are you out of touch.  SignatureCobraJet > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best shot > at it. Man, are you out of touch. Yeah, this group has really gone to sh.t. All I see is Patrick doing his normal mass-media puke, and a few clueless newbies. The newbies would be best served taking their newbie questions to web forums. It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman and Big Al stick around. SignatureJason >> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > best served taking their newbie questions to web forums. It's amazing to > me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman and Big Al stick around. You're being funny, right? The irony is too thick. dwight > >> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What > >> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > dwight Yeah, Jason, that is pretty ironic. I mean, if these guys can't *see* us, then we must be history. Right? Anyway, my post was to point out how incredible it was that you two are unfamiliar with MP Brakes, not to enlighten you about the BB group. SignatureCobraJet >> >> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? >> >> What [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Yeah, Jason, that is pretty ironic. I mean, if these guys can't > *see* us, then we must be history. Right? You were history a long time ago. Interesting that you pop up now. Also interesting what GOT you to pop up. > Anyway, my post was to point out how incredible it was that you two > are unfamiliar with MP Brakes, not to enlighten you about the BB group. Hey, there's lots of things I've never heard of. Why did this one set you off? And, please, I don't give a crap about the "BB group." dwight >>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > dwight No, and it is, but only because of that question. SignatureJason >>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >>>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > No, and it is, but only because of that question. Fine. I'll spell it out for you. "It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman and Big Al stick around." And here you are. dwight >>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >>>>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > And here you are. Now don't get all sassy on me. It's just sad to come here, because this group used to be really good. It's not now. SignatureJason >>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? >>>>>> What [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Now don't get all sassy on me. It's just sad to come here, because this > group used to be really good. It's not now. So bring something to the table, rather than complain about the content. I don't know how many times it has to be said - the newsgroup is made by those who post, not by those who read. Patrick's been putting his mass-media puke out here for over a decade. Newbies have been posting the same damn questions as long as I've been here (and I was one, myself). As with anything else, if you don't like the show, change the channel. But in THIS case, you have the ability to control the content of the show, to an extent. dwight >>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? >>>>>>> What [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > dwight Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison. You know what? I will, just as soon as I find an AP story about something vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama jama in RAMFM!!! SignatureJason >>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power >>>>>>>> Brakes? [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > something vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama > jama in RAMFM!!! J, when did you start posting? Just curious. >>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power >>>>>>>>> Brakes? [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > J, when did you start posting? Just curious. Hey Joe. Is this a leading question? ;-) I got the C-code in Oct. '95, so I'd imagine it was sometime right around then. SignatureJason Jason O <none@none.none> wrote in news:vfMEh.1198$LF6.1177 @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net: >>>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power >>>>>>>>>> Brakes? [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > Hey Joe. Is this a leading question? ;-) I got the C-code in Oct. > '95, so I'd imagine it was sometime right around then. Wow, that is a while ago. Think I started around 4 or 5 year ago - I was still on dial-up back then in the old days.. :>Jason O <none@none.none> wrote in news:vfMEh.1198$LF6.1177 :>@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net: :>>> J, when did you start posting? Just curious. :>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :>Wow, that is a while ago. Think I started around 4 or 5 year ago - I :>was still on dial-up back then in the old days.. Joe, I've been on RAMFM since '97 or '98 and you've been here as long as I have. Btw, while I still have the Mach1, I went over to the dark side and added a C6 to the mix in the driveway. :) Hope J and J are healthy and doing fine. Sarah SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >:>Jason O <none@none.none> wrote in news:vfMEh.1198$LF6.1177 >:>@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Sarah So it has been that long, eh? ;) The memory is fading... Glad to hear from you, and glad you're still driving the Mach1. Congrats on the C6 btw! That's a nice side to be on. Everybody's well, thanks, hope the same's true for you. Joe's driving the LX now, but he'll be giving it up next year when he goes away to school. No car for the first year, but that will give me time to think about the LX as a restomod. :>Sarah Czepiel <ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in :>news:ijkcu2lad7ab0ld0re9mk8t5bdcq3a53i4@4ax.com: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] :> :>So it has been that long, eh? ;) The memory is fading... LOL! :>Glad to hear from you, and glad you're still driving the Mach1. :>Congrats on the C6 btw! That's a nice side to be on. Thanks Joe. The C6 is a marvelous ride and so different from the Mach 1. I still love Mustangs affordability and their simpler form and function. Getting into the Corvette is like sitting in the pilot seat of a modern jet aircraft. It rides better than any Mustang I've ever had and the LS2 power is mind boggling but for pure raw fun? A Mustang is still hard to beat. :) >Everybody's well, thanks, hope the same's true for you. Yes things are fine but changed. I'm now living in southern Maryland. :>Joe's driving :>the LX now, but he'll be giving it up next year when he goes away to :>school. Oh dear....now I do feel old. :) :>No car for the first year, but that will give me time to think :>about the LX as a restomod. I've been reading your comments back and forth with dwight about the project. There is the less expensive way and then there is the expensive way. I think I'd do it up big if I had the chance and go for a new motor and all the assorted bells and whistles. Bill still has his two Fox Mustangs, the 89 and the 93 vert, plus Mike has his 88GT. They're both talking about doing some restomoding on the 89 and 88 within the next year. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >:>Sarah Czepiel <ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in >:>news:ijkcu2lad7ab0ld0re9mk8t5bdcq3a53i4@4ax.com: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > ever had and the LS2 power is mind boggling but for pure raw fun? A > Mustang is still hard to beat. :) I hear ya. My brother's got a C5, and it kicks major butt. I drove it a couple times, and it's true - the power on that thing is unreal. It's cool how it starts off docile and turns into a beast. >>Everybody's well, thanks, hope the same's true for you. > > Yes things are fine but changed. I'm now living in southern > Maryland. So you're Michael's neighbor now. ;) >:>Joe's driving >:>the LX now, but he'll be giving it up next year when he goes away to >:>school. > > Oh dear....now I do feel old. :) How do you think _I_ feel? >:>No car for the first year, but that will give me time to think >:>about the LX as a restomod. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 88GT. They're both talking about doing some restomoding on the 89 > and 88 within the next year. That's great - good for them. I still have a budget to consider, and there are some choices to be made soon. But I still have some time to think things through.. :>Sarah Czepiel <ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in :>news:ijkcu2lad7ab0ld0re9mk8t5bdcq3a53i4@4ax.com: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] :> :>So it has been that long, eh? ;) The memory is fading... LOL! :>Glad to hear from you, and glad you're still driving the Mach1. :>Congrats on the C6 btw! That's a nice side to be on. Thanks Joe. The C6 is a marvelous ride and so different from the Mach 1. I still love Mustangs affordability and their simpler form and function. Getting into the Corvette is like sitting in the pilot seat of a modern jet aircraft. It rides better than any Mustang I've ever had and the LS2 power is mind boggling but for pure raw fun? A Mustang is still hard to beat. :) >Everybody's well, thanks, hope the same's true for you. Yes things are fine but changed. I'm now living in southern Maryland. :>Joe's driving :>the LX now, but he'll be giving it up next year when he goes away to :>school. Oh dear....now I do feel old. :) :>No car for the first year, but that will give me time to think :>about the LX as a restomod. I've been reading your comments back and forth with dwight about the project. There is the less expensive way and then there is the expensive way. I think I'd do it up big if I had the chance and go for a new motor and all the assorted bells and whistles. Bill still has his two Fox Mustangs, the 89 and the 93 vert, plus Mike has his 88GT. They're both talking about doing some restomoding on the 89 and 88 within the next year. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>> Jason >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > You know what? I will, just as soon as I find an AP story about something > vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama jama in RAMFM!!! Slip off your meds again Jason? Not much you can do will alter your status a sniveling little brown nosing twit, with an enormously over inflated opinion of yourself and your meager automobile knowledge. >>>> Jason >>> So bring something to the table, rather than complain about the content. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > a sniveling little brown nosing twit, with an enormously over inflated > opinion of yourself and your meager automobile knowledge. How transparent can you be? SignatureJason >>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power >>>>>>>> Brakes? What [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > something vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama jama > in RAMFM!!! I guess you didn't get the memo. ramfm is now more of a social club than hard core tech. Either way, I find it entertaining. YMMV ;) >>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power >>>>>>>>> Brakes? What [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > I guess you didn't get the memo. ramfm is now more of a social club > than hard core tech. Either way, I find it entertaining. YMMV ;) Yeah, I have seen people do 400-post threads about Repugs and Dems and stuff, totally off-topic. ;) SignatureJason >>>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power >>>>>>>>>> Brakes? What [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > Yeah, I have seen people do 400-post threads about Repugs and Dems and > stuff, totally off-topic. ;) As I said, YMMV. I have had some rather lengthy OT thread interactions, as you appear to know about, that I thoroughly enjoyed. No one is forced to read anything here if the topic annoys them. I can only answer so many subframe connector questions in a week before going mad and seeking out an OT thread to wedge myself into. I do salivate at the chance to answer a question about blowers though. Unfortunately they are few and far between. I think every group has discussions that wonder off the reservation to varying degrees. Anymore, I look at this place as my own personal "Cheers" of Usenet. Although I have actually met just a few of the people here personally, I consider many to be good friends anyway. If I came here for tech discussions only I would have left a long, long time ago. The idea of ramfm and ahpbbfm pissing on each other does make me chuckle. It's good entertainment. Wait.... did I just see a new subframe connector post? Hot damn! I gotta go now! >>>>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power >>>>>>>>>>> Brakes? What [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > entertainment. Wait.... did I just see a new subframe connector post? > Hot damn! I gotta go now! If you think this place is bad, you should check out the dodge truck group. What a friggin' riot. > As I said, YMMV. I have had some rather lengthy OT thread interactions, > as you appear to know about, that I thoroughly enjoyed. No one is > forced to read anything here if the topic annoys them. I can only > answer so many subframe connector questions in a week before going mad > and seeking out an OT thread to wedge myself into. Hey, what's the best oil filter? <ducks> Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger >> As I said, YMMV. I have had some rather lengthy OT thread >> interactions, as you appear to know about, that I thoroughly enjoyed. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hey, what's the best oil filter? <ducks> Hold on... let me go pop some corn and I'll be right back. I don't want to miss anything. >>> As I said, YMMV. I have had some rather lengthy OT thread >>> interactions, as you appear to know about, that I thoroughly [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hold on... let me go pop some corn and I'll be right back. I don't want > to miss anything. Well it's Fram right??? It has to be, that's the only one with the little grippy thing to unscrew it... Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger >>>> As I said, YMMV. I have had some rather lengthy OT thread >>>> interactions, as you appear to know about, that I thoroughly [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Well it's Fram right??? It has to be, that's the only one with the > little grippy thing to unscrew it... I just cut a roll of paper towels in half, stuff it in a coffee can and weld that to the block. That does me for the first 100,000 miles. >>>>> As I said, YMMV. I have had some rather lengthy OT thread >>>>> interactions, as you appear to know about, that I thoroughly [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I just cut a roll of paper towels in half, stuff it in a coffee can and > weld that to the block. That does me for the first 100,000 miles. Don't be so crude. There's the guy that sells the paper towel and toilet roll filters. Those come with a nice machined aluminum screw on case. Now there is a guy on one of the Titan forums I read who uses some type of high quality reusable oil filter. I don't know what's on the inside. I DO know he should probably be dumping PTFE into it though. That's what Fram does so it must be right. SignatureAnd if a cow had wheels, it would be a milk truck. - Steve Linford > Anymore, I look at this place as my own personal "Cheers" of Usenet. > Although I have actually met just a few of the people here personally, I > consider many to be good friends anyway. I'm starting my eighth year as a participant in ramfm and I only just met a ramfm-er face to face last Saturday night. Laurie S. came to the SF Bay Area to plan for an upcoming MCA regional show and she got together with some of us Vintage Mustang Forum members for dinner. She got to see my '65 fb, my wife, my bald spot, my wife's bald spot . . . so yes, these words on the monitor are actually put there by real people. 180 Out > I guess you didn't get the memo. ramfm is now more of a social club > than hard core tech. Either way, I find it entertaining. YMMV ;) Wait, there was a memo??? Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger > Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about > everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison. Horse feathers. Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger >> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about >> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison. > > Horse feathers. No, he's right. When Al Gore and I put up the tubes that form the backbone of all the internets, Jason was waiting in line to send one of the first posts. We were using a converted Atari game console at the time. dwight >>> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about >>> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > dwight November 1995. SignatureJason >>>> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about >>>> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > November 1995. Beat you. dwight >>>>> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about >>>>> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > dwight I believe I said "just about" everyone here. When did you get going in this place? SignatureJason >> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about >> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison. > > Horse feathers. Well, where's the unicorn, WF? I do hope that shoe tastes good. I speak from experience - just use a little mustard and fungicide. ;-) SignatureJason >>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? >>>>>> What [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Now don't get all sassy on me. It's just sad to come here, because this > group used to be really good. It's not now. Don't let the knob hit you in the a.s on the way out.... Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger > Yeah, this group has really gone to sh.t. All I see is Patrick doing > his normal mass-media puke, and a few clueless newbies. If you don't like Patrick's posts, don't read them, he's been here a lot longer than you have. > The newbies > would be best served taking their newbie questions to web forums. It's > amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman and Big Al > stick around. If there were no newbs to ask questions, there would be no reason for people full of helpful information to stay here doof. Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best shot > at it. Man, are you out of touch. FYI: Nobody here want to hear your silly sh.t, that's why the illustrious Usenet group you created is dead. Don't you have a bottle of crappy ale and a welfare check calling your name somewhere ELSE? What's the matter? Your private little web thing didn't pan out? >> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > somewhere ELSE? > What's the matter? Your private little web thing didn't pan out? Actually I believe Bill S. created this one. Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger >>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Actually I believe Bill S. created this one. I think he was referring to the "other" dead group. dwight > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full > page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out with > new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's > instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!" I love spam. Can't get enough of it. It fills up my inbox at work and at home, and now is a welcome addition to the newsgoups I read. In fact, I'll take a daily dose of spam from ANY automotive supplier over anything you might "contribute." Your holier-than-thou garbage wore thin years ago. > I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if that > can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best shot > at it. Man, are you out of touch. So, you can't argue with the replies, but you want to hold them up for your own ridicule anyway? Great, ya old fart. That's great. Glad to see you're still hanging around ramfm to protect us from ourselves. dwight > > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What > > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Your holier-than-thou garbage wore thin years ago. Your mantra? "Wax on; wax off". Evidently, you are still waxin' off. > > I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if that > > can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best shot > > at it. Man, are you out of touch. > > So, you can't argue with the replies, but you want to hold them up for your > own ridicule anyway? Great, ya old fart. That's great. Hey, I may be an old fart, but at least I pay attention to the players in my hobby. You are out of touch. > Glad to see you're still hanging around ramfm to protect us from ourselves. Well, I was curious about Patrick's recemnt lame post in AHPBBFM, which really had no point. So I re-upped ol' RAMFM to see what's happenin' over here. You may thank him at your convenience. Glad to see you guys are still slaying those dragons. I know I'd be sh.tting bricks if *my* windshield wipers had a mind of thier own. > dwight SignatureCobraJet >> > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >> > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Hey, I may be an old fart, but at least I pay attention to the > players in my hobby. You are out of touch. Really? What, exactly, is my hobby? >> Glad to see you're still hanging around ramfm to protect us from >> ourselves. > > Well, I was curious about Patrick's recemnt lame post in AHPBBFM, > which really had no point. So I re-upped ol' RAMFM to see what's > happenin' over here. You may thank him at your convenience. HAH! Now Patrick determines what you do? On second thought, that's not at all unbelievable. Patrick's been pulling your strings for years. Me, too, apparently - it wasn't a Patrick post that brought you out into the light, was it? > Glad to see you guys are still slaying those dragons. I know I'd be > sh.tting bricks if *my* windshield wipers had a mind of thier own. Looks to me like you didn't sh.t at all today. That's okay, I have days like that myself. It's amazing how one little thing can throw your whole world out of whack. dwight > >> > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What > >> > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Really? What, exactly, is my hobby? Yakking about some outdated pile of sh.t you drive. > >> Glad to see you're still hanging around ramfm to protect us from > >> ourselves. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > HAH! Now Patrick determines what you do? Yes, actually. After I read his post I grabbed the paper and sat on the toilet. Cause and Effect. > On second thought, that's not at all unbelievable. Patrick's been pulling > your strings for years. Me, too, apparently - it wasn't a Patrick post that > brought you out into the light, was it? Nope. It was the hilarity of checking RAMFM after all this time and seeing that people here STILL respond to spam postings. Shitfire, didn't we determine like, ten years ago, that such behavior was the single most futile action in Usenet? And you're doing it in 2007? Holy CRAP! Move on. Grow up. Pulling strings? Oh, you have turned feeble. Or moreso, as it were. > > Glad to see you guys are still slaying those dragons. I know I'd be > > sh.tting bricks if *my* windshield wipers had a mind of thier own. > > Looks to me like you didn't sh.t at all today. That's okay, I have days like > that myself. It's amazing how one little thing can throw your whole world > out of whack. My world is doing pretty good, actually. It turns out that giving the ThunderSnakes a sense of solidarity was a good move. It's a shame you didn't organize such a thing here when you had the chance. Don't get me wrong; I have no desire to see RAMFM bite the dust. But, the times have changed, and you need to follow suit. > dwight SignatureCobraJet >> >> > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? >> >> > What [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Yakking about some outdated pile of sh.t you drive. You and I share the very same hobby, with that description. >> >> Glad to see you're still hanging around ramfm to protect us from >> >> ourselves. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yes, actually. After I read his post I grabbed the paper and sat on > the toilet. Cause and Effect. And, if the sit had a positive outcome, it probably brightened your day considerably. You should send Patrick a thank-you card. >> On second thought, that's not at all unbelievable. Patrick's been pulling >> your strings for years. Me, too, apparently - it wasn't a Patrick post [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > CRAP! Move on. Grow up. Pulling strings? Oh, you have turned feeble. Or > moreso, as it were. The hypocrisy of the above is overwhelming. What got you to post, after all this time? My reply to an ad. Didn't we determine a long time ago that all of your ranting, railing, and general hot air dispersion would have zero effect on my actions? And you're still doing it in 2007? >> > Glad to see you guys are still slaying those dragons. I know I'd be >> > sh.tting bricks if *my* windshield wipers had a mind of thier own. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Don't get me wrong; I have no desire to see RAMFM bite the dust. > But, the times have changed, and you need to follow suit. Uh... no... I don't. Maybe you've become a specialist, where I remain a general practitioner. Maybe you've developed a MUCH lower standard of annoyance than I have. RAMFM is all things Mustang. Beyond that, RAMFM is all things that are related to Mustangs. This allows a wide, free-ranging discussion. The fact that it's also an unmoderated newsgroup means that anything goes, and I welcome that. I have no interest in narrowing its focus or the contributions of anyone else. In fact, back to the genesis of this thread, I have no real problem with John advertising his products in this newsgroup. His ads are not spam, in any sense of the word, but on topic advertisements (something I've actually defended in other newsgroups). Now, while ads here may not be considered a good thing, they are at the least relevant to Mustangs. If I had control over this newsgroup, I probably would have let them get in. My real problem with RAMFM is the overall decline in posts. While much of this is a seasonal thing (it slows down every winter), I'll bet that the statistics will prove that newsgroups in general are going the way of the big-block Mercury. There's a slow and steady exodus to web-based forums, even those that derive the bulk of their content by mirroring these very newsgroups. I suppose that if I really "got with the times," I'd buy a new Mazda and join a couple of discussion forums about how great drifting is, even though I never actually do it. dwight > >> >> > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? > >> >> > What [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > > Uh... no... I don't. And so it's "Look, I took Froggy to the dealer!" for another couple decades? > Maybe you've become a specialist, where I remain a > general practitioner. Maybe you've developed a MUCH lower standard of > annoyance than I have. If you mean my panties aren't in a bunch over on-topic spam, then yeah. > RAMFM is all things Mustang. Beyond that, RAMFM is all things that are > related to Mustangs. This allows a wide, free-ranging discussion. The fact > that it's also an unmoderated newsgroup means that anything goes, and I > welcome that. That's good. Maybe. > I have no interest in narrowing its focus or the contributions of anyone > else. That's good, too. In fact, we broadened our focus to include small-block pushrod engines and new-tech hardware. And we are still unmoderated. > In fact, back to the genesis of this thread, I have no real problem with > John advertising his products in this newsgroup. His ads are not spam, in > any sense of the word, but on topic advertisements (something I've actually > defended in other newsgroups). Now, while ads here may not be considered a > good thing, they are at the least relevant to Mustangs. If I had control > over this newsgroup, I probably would have let them get in. And yet WF torques up his panties some more this morning and regurgitates the same tired old "Usenet Policy". You guys need to get sorted out. > My real problem with RAMFM is the overall decline in posts. While much of > this is a seasonal thing (it slows down every winter), I'll bet that the > statistics will prove that newsgroups in general are going the way of the > big-block Mercury. There's a slow and steady exodus to web-based forums, > even those that derive the bulk of their content by mirroring these very > newsgroups. This is very old news, which is why you need to step into the here and now. I used make runs through the whole alt.auto hierarchy to keep an eye on the action. It was evident three years ago that these groups would become a wasteland. Did you not see that all those guys from other ng's stopped sticking their noses in here? The exodus to the Web was not slow at all. It was, with broadband and improved interfacing, inevitable. Their success has nothing to do with "mirroring" newsgroups. The overwhelming majority of the members there don't even know what Usenet is. Matter of fact, dwight, I think the single biggest reason for the proliferation of web forums is the existence of some degree of moderation which has eliminated the flamewar. Yep, that glorious debacle which in old days used to define Usenet itself. Turns out, most people would rather talk shop than argue. I went on cable and into the Web about 15 months ago. I found guys that had been in Usenet that were quite happy over there. Of course, I had to be "normal", but I got used to it. I've learned more last year than in all the prior time in newsgroups. Go figure. > I suppose that if I really "got with the times," I'd buy a new Mazda and > join a couple of discussion forums about how great drifting is, even though > I never actually do it. Ah, open your eyes. If the decline in posting bothers you, think of what you and the others can do to increase it. Start by asking yourself why you posted the above sentence. If that's how you see things, then you've already lost. > dwight SignatureCobraJet >> >> >> > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? >> >> >> > What [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > If you mean my panties aren't in a bunch over on-topic spam, then > yeah. I guess "panties in a bunch" has a MUCH looser translation in your world. It used to have something to do with popping blood vessels, but you throw it around as synonymous with "annoyed." That's the second time you've referred to my panties, which, I assure you, remain unwadded. Oh, but now you'll tell me that my panties are in a wad over something that YOU posted, too. After all, I replied... >> RAMFM is all things Mustang. Beyond that, RAMFM is all things that are >> related to Mustangs. This allows a wide, free-ranging discussion. The [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > small-block pushrod engines and new-tech hardware. And we are still > unmoderated. Throw in the occasional discussion of digital photography, and I might subscribe. >> In fact, back to the genesis of this thread, I have no real problem with >> John advertising his products in this newsgroup. His ads are not spam, in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > regurgitates the same tired old "Usenet Policy". You guys need to get > sorted out. Your logic - or train of thought - is severely flawed. First you drag out a reference to a thread about windshield wipers, knowing that I had NO part in that one, as some sort of slam against me, and now you drag the Fox into it. This is me, Jet. dwight. Try to stay focused when you respond to something I write. I know it's getting harder with each passing year, but, in the end, you'll find that things make more sense. When you see a post and before you hit REPLY, you can usually see who the author of the post was. Mine probably say something like "dwight." If it says "Windsor Fox," that's the other guy. >> My real problem with RAMFM is the overall decline in posts. While much of >> this is a seasonal thing (it slows down every winter), I'll bet that the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > had to be "normal", but I got used to it. I've learned more last year > than in all the prior time in newsgroups. Go figure. ohmigod... You "went on cable and into the Web" a WHOLE 15 MONTHS AGO?!? Are you freakin' kidding me? And "I" have to catch up??? Dude... Seriously. You're one of those guys who believes what he believes, and everyone who doesn't agree is wrong. That's fine. Believe me, I think this world would be flat out unlivable if everyone agreed all the time, if everyone shared the same thinking. It's all about choices, Jet. I've been aware of the internets for a little longer than 15 months, and I make great use of its resources. I fully understand that usenet is but one small piece of the great pie. (In your limited braintrust, you only see my posts here, so you probably figure that this is my only internet presence. It's understandable.) But I'm able to do more than one thing at a time. It's called "multitasking." You might want to Google that for more information. Hint: type http://www.google.com into your "browser" - you know, the window that shows you the Nets. You'll see the big word "GOOGLE" come up, with a white rectangle below that. Your cursor (the blinky thing) will already be in that box. Just type the word "multitasking" and hit the button marked "Enter." You'll be amazed... >> I suppose that if I really "got with the times," I'd buy a new Mazda and >> join a couple of discussion forums about how great drifting is, even [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > why you posted the above sentence. If that's how you see things, then > you've already lost. I'll do that, if you'll think about why YOU are posting here and now. Personally, I'm happy you're here - we've tripled the daily posts in ramfm over the past couple of days. THAT's content, baby. uh... wait... lost what? dwight > uh... wait... lost what? > > dwight My mistake. You can't lose what you never had. SignatureCobraJet >> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Your holier-than-thou garbage wore thin years ago. Butt, at least he is consistent and you always know what to expect. :oP Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full > page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out with > new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's > instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!" Says you, I still never heard of them. On topic has nothing to do with being spam or not. Commercial advertisements are against the FAQ for all discussion groups on Usenet. Excessive MotorSports had multiple full page ads as well and because one crusty old a.shole heard of them certainly doesn't make them a household name. Signature"One hard rule of sockpuppetry is that a sockpuppet can't be smarter than its animator." - Arny Krueger WindsorFox <windsorfox@NOSPAM.cox.net> wrote in news:yqDDh.178$3b5.79 @newsfe24.lga: >> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What >> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > with being spam or not. Commercial advertisements are against the FAQ > for all discussion groups on Usenet. Utter nonsense. Back it up. > Excessive MotorSports had multiple full page ads as well and > because one crusty old a.shole heard of them certainly doesn't make them > a household name. |
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