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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 2007

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90 Mustang Air Condition R134 Conversion

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Joe - 29 Apr 2007 17:26 GMT
Want to upgrade my 90 Mustang 5.0 A/C to a R134 system.
Know of any conversion kits (compressor, condenser, hoses, accumulator
etc.) to do this and any issues / problems that I might encounter???
WindsorFox - 29 Apr 2007 18:00 GMT
> Want to upgrade my 90 Mustang 5.0 A/C to a R134 system.
> Know of any conversion kits (compressor, condenser, hoses, accumulator
> etc.) to do this and any issues / problems that I might encounter???

Changed mine years ago, the only thing I replaced was the orifice hose,
which was why I took it apart and the O-rings on the compressor. The
orifice is crimped into a length of steel line, and the steel part
in-between the hose has a foamy insulator. Obviously condensation
collects in the foam and starts the steel tube to rust and pit. It
developed a leak. I also changed the drier.

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Jim Warman - 29 Apr 2007 20:00 GMT
Whjen converting Ac systems was in it's infancy, the engineers were worried
that older systems couldn't handle the change and had us change a lot of
parts - as it turns out, not with any real necessity.

The system should be drawn into a deep vacuum and as much oil removed from
the system as possible. The suction accumulator or receiver/drier should be
removed to get what oil we can out of them (but that's me being nearly as
anal as the engineers) - of course, we would replace the O-rings at this
time. I would like to R&I the compressor and remove what oil I could at the
same time.

Once we are this far, we can add the appropriate amounts of oil  (memory
thing coming.... about 3 ounces in the compressor... a couple of ounces in
the receiver /drier or suction accumulator... an ounce or so in each of the
condenser and evaporator and charge the system....

Here's the rub... many owners have had good luck simply doing a refrigerant
drop.... This is more luck than design IMHO... If you are looking for years
of reliable service without a compressor failure changing your budget, the
more we do when changing over, the better our chances.

YMMV

> Want to upgrade my 90 Mustang 5.0 A/C to a R134 system.
> Know of any conversion kits (compressor, condenser, hoses, accumulator
> etc.) to do this and any issues / problems that I might encounter???
Ashton Crusher - 30 Apr 2007 07:42 GMT
>Want to upgrade my 90 Mustang 5.0 A/C to a R134 system.
>Know of any conversion kits (compressor, condenser, hoses, accumulator
>etc.) to do this and any issues / problems that I might encounter???

If you want to avoid the incompatible oil issues and potential
reduction in cooling capacity don't use R134 but get Freeze-12
instead.  If your system didn't have any real problem but you just
want to convert all you'll need to do is pull a vacuum for an hour or
so and then put the Freeze-12 in.  I just put the system in a 64
T-bird back in order and used Freeze-12 and it was putting out 45
degree air today in Phoenix.
 
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