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http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp  SignatureCobraJet > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp Now THAT's funny. I forget who said it or where I read it, but someone pointed out that drivers will do the stupidest, craziest, most dangerous things just so they won't be stuck behind a truck. (Watch for it and you'll see it.) This little trick makes perfect sense. Of course, there's an obvious and easy way to avoid being snared... dwight > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp Already covered it over in r.a.d. Try to keep up... I know you took the short bus and all.... But you're welcome to come to chicago and drive the posted speed limit in front of truckers. Be sure to wear your depends, because the trucker is a bigger bully than you. He'll sit 3 feet off your bumper, even pass you on the shoulder. > > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp > > Already covered it over in r.a.d. Try to keep up... I know you took the > short bus and all.... Damn, you mean you whine in multiple newsgroups? > But you're welcome to come to chicago and drive the posted speed limit in > front of truckers. Be sure to wear your depends, because the trucker is a > bigger bully than you. He'll sit 3 feet off your bumper, even pass you on > the shoulder. I drive at a yearly average. That means during the winter I drive behind snowbirds doing 10-15 mph under the posted limit (many of which are Chicago a.sholes), and during the summer I drive 10-15 over the limit like the rest of the locals. I'd like to think the snowbird thing was just for the old farts. However, I've seen this " I can count the pebbles in the asphalt" technique from much younger drivers with northern plates. I can only conclude that people from any area with any kind of real winter weather can't drive worth sh.t compared to the warm state natives. SignatureCobraJet >> > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp >> >> Already covered it over in r.a.d. Try to keep up... I know you took the >> short bus and all.... > > Damn, you mean you whine in multiple newsgroups? r.a.d used to have a number of people who were very knowledgable on driving issues and automotive design and very much involved with it. I learned quite a bit reading what they wrote and the cites that supported their arguments. I try to spread the knowledge and you chest thumping apes just don't want to learn anything. >> But you're welcome to come to chicago and drive the posted speed limit in >> front of truckers. Be sure to wear your depends, because the trucker is a >> bigger bully than you. He'll sit 3 feet off your bumper, even pass you on >> the shoulder. > I drive at a yearly average. That means during the winter I drive > behind snowbirds doing 10-15 mph under the posted limit (many of which > are Chicago a.sholes), So you get stuck behind some old people with IL plates and you think that's the typical chicago driver.... laff. > and during the summer I drive 10-15 over the > limit like the rest of the locals. So much for 'the law is the law' and not just doing what everyone else does. > I'd like to think the snowbird thing was just for the old farts. > However, I've seen this " I can count the pebbles in the asphalt" > technique from much younger drivers with northern plates. I can only > conclude that people from any area with any kind of real winter weather > can't drive worth sh.t compared to the warm state natives. No, you're seeing people out of state driving slowly because they are targets for the local constabulary. Out of state plates is a good way to get picked out of the flow. Funny how it is with you, those that obey the law can't drive and those who don't are wrong for not doing so, but you're ok at 15 over. > >> > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp > >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > So you get stuck behind some old people with IL plates and you think > that's the typical chicago driver.... laff. It's not just *some* IL plates, it's all of them. No, I've seen the typical Chicago driver whilst in front of McCormick Place one time. He decided to parallel park his 17-foot car into a 15-foot space, and proceeded to non-chalantly bash both other cars until his fit, in front of at least 100 people. As a Los Angeles resident at the time, I did what all other L.A. residents do when faced with blatant disregard for another's vehicle; I reached for my gun. However, I did not take it on the plane. I turned to the other members of my contingent and found them likewise groping in waistbands and purses to no avail. Drat. > > and during the summer I drive 10-15 over the > > limit like the rest of the locals. > > So much for 'the law is the law' and not just doing what everyone else does. Did I say I obeyed the prima facie limit? Hell no. > > I'd like to think the snowbird thing was just for the old farts. > > However, I've seen this " I can count the pebbles in the asphalt" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > law can't drive and those who don't are wrong for not doing so, but > you're ok at 15 over. You know nothing. The snowbirds are seen by the city council as a boost to the local economy when they are here. They are never pulled over, even though the lot of them deserve impeding cites daily. I've seen them run into curbs, back into stationary objects, and drive for blocks on the wrong side of the road. But they don't get into any trouble. I'm not "OK" at 15 over. I acknowledge that I'm breaking the law, and if I get a ticket then tough cookies. I don't gripe about roadside taxation and other such nonsense. I really don't consider the whole scenario worth wasting time thinking about. I'll let *you* stress out instead. SignatureCobraJet > It's not just *some* IL plates, it's all of them. And you know the local constabulary would target them just as they know. IL plates, down south.... > No, I've seen the > typical Chicago driver whilst in front of McCormick Place one time. He > decided to parallel park his 17-foot car into a 15-foot space, and > proceeded to non-chalantly bash both other cars until his fit, in front > of at least 100 people. Now think about driving 55mph in front of this guy when the flow is 75mph. >> > and during the summer I drive 10-15 over the >> > limit like the rest of the locals. >> So much for 'the law is the law' and not just doing what everyone else does. > Did I say I obeyed the prima facie limit? Hell no. Oh... now the 85th percentile method is valid..... So you've just been full of sh.t entirely. >> No, you're seeing people out of state driving slowly because they are >> targets for the local constabulary. Out of state plates is a good way to >> get picked out of the flow. Funny how it is with you, those that obey the >> law can't drive and those who don't are wrong for not doing so, but >> you're ok at 15 over. > You know nothing. The snowbirds are seen by the city council as a > boost to the local economy when they are here. They are never pulled > over, even though the lot of them deserve impeding cites daily. If they were speeding they would be. Slow drivers are pulled over durring drinking hours, not going to the early bird special at the family eatery. > I'm not "OK" at 15 over. I acknowledge that I'm breaking the law, > and if I get a ticket then tough cookies. I don't gripe about roadside > taxation and other such nonsense. I really don't consider the whole > scenario worth wasting time thinking about. I'll let *you* stress out > instead. You're wasting your time with it now. So basically what gets your panties in a bunch is that I don't share your apathy. > > It's not just *some* IL plates, it's all of them. > > And you know the local constabulary would target them just as they know. > IL plates, down south.... Huh? > > No, I've seen the > > typical Chicago driver whilst in front of McCormick Place one time. He [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Now think about driving 55mph in front of this guy when the flow is > 75mph. I have discovered over the past few years that driving a car that says "Police Interceptor" on the back not only keeps the wackos at bay, but Johnny Law doesn't "see" you very well, either. Maybe it's the right car for you. > >> > and during the summer I drive 10-15 over the > >> > limit like the rest of the locals. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Oh... now the 85th percentile method is valid..... So you've just been > full of sh.t entirely. You mistake me for someone who bothered to read all that crap. > > >> No, you're seeing people out of state driving slowly because they are [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > If they were speeding they would be. Slow drivers are pulled over durring > drinking hours, not going to the early bird special at the family eatery. You still know nothing. Snowbirds jam cheap places like the American Legion, get toasted and are home in bed by 9pm. > > I'm not "OK" at 15 over. I acknowledge that I'm breaking the law, > > and if I get a ticket then tough cookies. I don't gripe about roadside [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You're wasting your time with it now. So basically what gets your panties > in a bunch is that I don't share your apathy. I gotta laugh. You read these posts and "imagine" that my panties are in a bunch, and that I am "lashing out". I think you give yourself too much credit. I post here in between a ton of other stuff I'm doing on the computer. I don't care about your problems; I'm just amused by dysfunctional logic. Have been for years. Life's too short to get wound up. SignatureCobraJet >> > It's not just *some* IL plates, it's all of them. >> >> And you know the local constabulary would target them just as they know. >> IL plates, down south.... > > Huh? Not only is it well known that out of state plates make one a target for being singled out, throw the northern in a southern state + stereotype southern cop and speed trap town..... >> > No, I've seen the >> > typical Chicago driver whilst in front of McCormick Place one time. He [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Now think about driving 55mph in front of this guy when the flow is >> 75mph. > I have discovered over the past few years that driving a car that > says "Police Interceptor" on the back not only keeps the wackos at bay, > but Johnny Law doesn't "see" you very well, either. Maybe it's the > right car for you. I don't like land barges. But that is simply irrelevant. But I do notice you're concerned about cops seeing you, maybe you should just obey the law? Oh wait, that would mean you'd have to practice what you preach. >> >> > and during the summer I drive 10-15 over the >> >> > limit like the rest of the locals. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Oh... now the 85th percentile method is valid..... So you've just been >> full of sh.t entirely. > You mistake me for someone who bothered to read all that crap. So it's even worse... you felt free to spew insults and you never even knew what I had written. That's just plain stupid. >> >> >> No, you're seeing people out of state driving slowly because they are [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > You still know nothing. Snowbirds jam cheap places like the American > Legion, get toasted and are home in bed by 9pm. You just agreed with me. >> > I'm not "OK" at 15 over. I acknowledge that I'm breaking the law, >> > and if I get a ticket then tough cookies. I don't gripe about roadside >> > taxation and other such nonsense. I really don't consider the whole >> > scenario worth wasting time thinking about. I'll let *you* stress out >> > instead. >> You're wasting your time with it now. So basically what gets your panties >> in a bunch is that I don't share your apathy. > I gotta laugh. You read these posts and "imagine" that my panties > are in a bunch, and that I am "lashing out". I think you give yourself > too much credit. I post here in between a ton of other stuff I'm doing > on the computer. I don't care about your problems; I'm just amused by > dysfunctional logic. Have been for years. Life's too short to get wound > up. I post inbetween things as well. 1) My logic is just fine provided one actually understands the background material. 2) Since you admittedly don't read my posts in full, it's not my logic that is dysfunctional but rather your reading and comprehension. My problems? They are everyone's problems. You just choose to give into apathy and ignore them. Don't worry, the results of your apathy will probably come to bite you all in the a.s soon enough. SNIP >>> I >> up. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >1) My logic is just fine provided one actually understands the background >material. All the logic and theory in the world won't make reality and human nature any different. >2) Since you admittedly don't read my posts in full, it's not my logic >that is dysfunctional but rather your reading and comprehension. Your logic may be just fine in an altered state of reality. However, most people drive in this reality because they realize this is the one they have to function in. There are far more important things to them... like paying the mortgage, feeding families, having their loved ones come home in one piece.... >My problems? They are everyone's problems. You just choose to give into >apathy and ignore them. Don't worry, the results of your apathy will >probably come to bite you all in the a.s soon enough. Judging by the responses, less people agree with you than you seem to think. So, perhaps it isn't "everyone's problems". Perhaps you are spitting into the wind instead of with the wind. What you consider apathy could just be the majority's reality. Doesn't make them sheep. Just means they accept what is reasonable intrusion. Then again, maybe it is apathy because the majority of people think it is just too insignificant to worry about, and leave such worries to the Don Quixotes who need their windmills. >>1) My logic is just fine provided one actually understands the background >>material. > All the logic and theory in the world won't make reality and human > nature any different. Human nature is that the vast majority of people drive a safe and reasonable speed regardless of what is on the sign. That has been shown again and again, study after study. You were pointed to them, but like a horse led to water you can't be forced to drink. >>2) Since you admittedly don't read my posts in full, it's not my logic >>that is dysfunctional but rather your reading and comprehension. > Your logic may be just fine in an altered state of reality. It's not my fault you choose to be ignorant. > However, > most people drive in this reality because they realize this is the one > they have to function in. There are far more important things to > them... like paying the mortgage, feeding families, having their loved > ones come home in one piece.... Apathy. But at least you admit the system is just lived with now, implying that it isn't right. That's progress. >>My problems? They are everyone's problems. You just choose to give into >>apathy and ignore them. Don't worry, the results of your apathy will >>probably come to bite you all in the a.s soon enough. > Judging by the responses, less people agree with you than you seem to > think. Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to rec.autos.driving then. > So, perhaps it isn't "everyone's problems". Perhaps you are > spitting into the wind instead of with the wind. What you consider [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > insignificant to worry about, and leave such worries to the Don > Quixotes who need their windmills. How is being fined for normal, reasonable behavior a reasonable intrusion? Or do you just count on the cop not picking you, because you are x,y,z or have a badge or whatever? I think hundreds if not thousands of dollars would be signficant to a great number of people in this nation. Just think, if they weren't pulled from the pack by armed employee of the government and forced to fork over a couple hundred bucks maybe it would be easier to make the mortgage payment that month. Of course they could always drive a couple standard deviations slower than the mean and take the increased risk of collision involvement.... but if they lose that gamble it could be a lot more than a couple hundred bucks. > Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to > rec.autos.driving then. Okay, let's. Everyone in ramfm and rad is invited to cast your votes. Brent - thumbs up, or thumbs down? dwight >>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > dwight I have no idea... context? nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel >>>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >>>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I have no idea... context? Speed limits are widely underposted, 85th percentile method, the usual. > >>>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to > >>>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Speed limits are widely underposted, 85th percentile method, the usual. You need a new hobby, Brently. May I suggest... http://www.artelino.com/articles/seppuku.asp SignatureCobraJet > >>>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to > >>>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Speed limits are widely underposted, 85th percentile method, the usual. Thumbs down. Now that gas prices are higher, it is clear that speed limits are not just about keeping traffic flow at a certain speed, but also for maximizing fuel economy because traffic driving at that speed (also keeping a proper 2 to 3 second following distance) flows freely enough without too many bottlenecks when onramps or lane reductions occur... ...provided, of course, that slow moving big rigs aren't de-facto closing an entire lane by doing 35 to 40mph on a road posted for 65 or 70mph. > Now that gas prices are higher, it is clear that speed limits are not just > about keeping traffic flow at a certain speed, but also for maximizing fuel > economy because traffic driving at that speed (also keeping a proper 2 to 3 > second following distance) flows freely enough without too many bottlenecks > when onramps or lane reductions occur... > ...provided, of course, that slow moving big rigs aren't de-facto closing an > entire lane by doing 35 to 40mph on a road posted for 65 or 70mph. So what I think your point is that you want a narrower distribution of speeds for better flow. Not really slower speeds, or trying to restrict everyone to some outdate rule of thumb fuel economy speed, but rather a smooth traffic flow. This is exactly what 85th percentile speed limits do. They slow down faster drivers and speed up slower drivers. They encourage keep-right-except-to-pass lane discipline. Flow quality improves. The trouble with pulling a number out of one's a.s is that it's very difficult to get everyone to do that speed +/- whatever unless dumb luck places it close to the 85th percentile. To achieve good traffic flow, one has to go with the flow so to speak and gather the data needed and then use that. Putting up an arbitary speed and then trying to get a tight distribution about it is about as silly as building a dam to control a river without doing any site surveys or flow measurements. > In article <f1tpll03...@news3.newsguy.com>, Nate Nagel wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Speed limits are widely underposted, 85th percentile method, the usual. Without seeing exactly what we're discussing, I can say that Brent's opinions on the above usually are close to mine, so thumbs up. nate >> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > dwight Down! Booooo! SignatureTropic Green Y2K Mustang GT 5spd ATI P-1SC @10lbs MM Suspension http://tinyurl.com/yjdb66 > >> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to > >> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > Down! Booooo! For the benefit of rad, Brently is a blowhard. He blows. Hard. SignatureCobraJet > For the benefit of rad, Brently is a blowhard. He blows. Hard. Check google groups statistics for r.a.d and see who holds the top two ranks. The majority of the regulars here in r.a.d. have a favorable view of him AFAICT. >> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > dwight Brent can stuff his own thumb up his butt. "dwight" <tfrog93@gEEmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Brent - thumbs up, or thumbs down? UP. SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ > "dwight" <tfrog93@gEEmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > UP. Holy Crap! Does it figure that a Brently supporter has perhaps the lamest website I've seen? Gee, let's drive around and see what kind of real or imagined mistakes people make on the road! Another whiner! Whoda thunkit!?!?!? Who's driving behind you, yahoo? SignatureCobraJet CobraJet <shedding@skin.molt> said in rec.autos.driving: > Holy Crap! Does it figure that a Brently supporter has perhaps the >lamest website I've seen? Begone, troll. *PLONK!* SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ > CobraJet <shedding@skin.molt> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > *PLONK!* Hey! Now you are insulting TROLLS! >> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > dwight Up. He is not always the most articulate person, but he knows what he's talking about. Signature~/Garth (reading from both RAMFM and RAD) > Everyone in ramfm and rad is invited to cast your votes. > > Brent - thumbs up, or thumbs down? Thumbs up. >> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > dwight Thumbs up! At least he has some basis for his position, besides alcohol induced psychosis that is... >>> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >>> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > At least he has some basis for his position, besides alcohol induced > psychosis that is... I dunno, Ash... I mean, I'll grant his "position"; like I said, I was never arguing about that. But his style of discourse is all over the freakin' block! Ask one question, and he answers something completely unrelated. Ask an unrelated question, and - blam - he's back to his original non-argument. There's just something not right there... dwight > arguing about that. But his style of discourse is all over the freakin' > block! Ask one question, and he answers something completely unrelated. Ask > an unrelated question, and - blam - he's back to his original non-argument. > > There's just something not right there... The reader. >> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > dwight Brent is not nearly as paranoid as he appears at first glance. thumbs up for Brent. Bernard >>> Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >>> rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bernard When you say "not nearly," does that still put him in the "very" category? Or are you leaning more toward "somewhat" or "mildly"? :() >>>>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >>>>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > :() You're not paranoid if there really are people out to get you. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel >>>>>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >>>>>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > nate That's what Hilary said. And in her case, at least, it was true. :() >>>>>>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to >>>>>>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >:() Paranoia isn't realizing what happens to other people and realizing there is no reason it couldn't happen to one's self or others. The alternative is just dismissing things and saying 'it will never happen to me'. Just something to ponder: http://judiciary.senate.gov/oldsite/330200rg.htm > >>>>>>Now it's a popularity contest? I'll just cross post this over to > >>>>>>rec.autos.driving then. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > is no reason it couldn't happen to one's self or others. The alternative is > just dismissing things and saying 'it will never happen to me'. Here's something for you to read, Brently. Reads like an biography for you, I imagine. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-schizophrenia/DS00862 SignatureCobraJet > >> > It's not just *some* IL plates, it's all of them. > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > being singled out, throw the northern in a southern state + stereotype > southern cop and speed trap town..... So what does a sterotype Southern cop have to with Arizona? See, you ASSumed something wrong, instead of just asking me where I was. > >> > No, I've seen the > >> > typical Chicago driver whilst in front of McCormick Place one time. He [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > you're concerned about cops seeing you, maybe you should just obey the > law? Oh wait, that would mean you'd have to practice what you preach. I never preached that you should obey the law. I merely pointed out the difference between taxation and fines, the reason that police agnecies need sufficient revenues to conduct business, and proper procedure when being pulled over. > >> >> > and during the summer I drive 10-15 over the > >> >> > limit like the rest of the locals. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > So it's even worse... you felt free to spew insults and you never even > knew what I had written. That's just plain stupid. Uh, who was it that was spewing insults? Go back and see that it was YOU. Nowhere did I ever have anything to say about the validity or accuracy of posted speed limits. Nowhere. You are confused. (snip) > 1) My logic is just fine provided one actually understands the background > material. I guess you're the only one that understands it. You must be proud. > 2) Since you admittedly don't read my posts in full, it's not my logic > that is dysfunctional but rather your reading and comprehension. OK, here it is in a nutshell. As a paranoid schizophrenic, you lump everyone with opposing views (which *is* everyone) into your own strictly defined category. In this case, it's "Pro Police". You ASSumed that because I brought up a couple points about "revenue" and procedure that I tow the agenda all the way down the line. I never said that, but it makes it easier for your paranoid side to deal with. I never said a word about obeying speed limits, but you automatically ASSumed I was in on this 85th percentile sh.t and was therefore a hypocrite as a "Pro Police" person. You are, predictably, having trouble distinguishing one 'adversary" from the next. Worse yet, you are incapable of understanding that the majority of people cannot be jammed into convenient categories. The best example are the politics freaks, who have to label others as Democrat or Republican, right or left, or whatever. Then it becomes easier to jump up and down and point fingers at imagined "transgressions", as that person is "supposed to" think and act per the book. Wrong; oh so wrong. It ain't black and white, Brently. It's all shades of gray. The non-sheep will examine each topic individually and form his or her own opinion regardless of what he or she is "supposed" to think. You like to think you are a smart guy. But it's just a jumble in your head. When so many people tell you in one way or another that you are dysfunctional, don't you think you should spend some real time figuring out why? > My problems? They are everyone's problems. You just choose to give into > apathy and ignore them. Don't worry, the results of your apathy will > probably come to bite you all in the a.s soon enough. Well, Doomsday predictions are another manifestation of the paranoid, unfortunately. Following through, the inability of our populace to undo a well-orchestrated system designed by the people who run this country can be viewed as universal apathy. If that's the case, we're ALL f.cked. Me. You. What bites me in the a.s will bite the rest of our society (providing I still live here at the time). Most of us know things are not rosey all over. What can we do? If you look around, you'll see that countries that try to reverse the program are devastated by civil war. Death. Poverty. And usually for nothing, as the new Lord of the Flies becomes the same as the old Lord of the Flies. Face it, we don't own this country, and never will. What's the answer, Brently? Well, for me, the best way to thumb my nose at the oppression is to concentrate on living the rest of my life doing things that put a smile on my face. If you die bitter (and YOU will), then "they" have won. Wipe the sand off your face and focus. Have a nice week. Chill. SignatureCobraJet >> Not only is it well known that out of state plates make one a target for >> being singled out, throw the northern in a southern state + stereotype >> southern cop and speed trap town..... > So what does a sterotype Southern cop have to with Arizona? See, you > ASSumed something wrong, instead of just asking me where I was. similiar stereotype... small town speed trap nonsense The western stereotype is no different. BTW, how does your 15 over work with the speed cameras in your state? they just go by the posted limit, no need to prove it was unsafe. > I never preached that you should obey the law. Came close enough to it. > I merely pointed out > the difference between taxation and fines, the reason that police > agnecies need sufficient revenues to conduct business, and proper > procedure when being pulled over. You didn't merely do that... you did quite a bit more. The way to have revenue to run a police department is through taxation. That makes fines for normal and reasonable behavior effective taxes. I pointed that out to you earlier. >> > You mistake me for someone who bothered to read all that crap. >> So it's even worse... you felt free to spew insults and you never even >> knew what I had written. That's just plain stupid. > Uh, who was it that was spewing insults? Go back and see that it was > YOU. Nowhere did I ever have anything to say about the validity or > accuracy of posted speed limits. Nowhere. You are confused. Your posts were extremely insulting. But as usual, a little bit of your own in return and you whine. And that is true, you just wrote insulting posts attacking me without having even bothered with the subject matter. That's just stupid. >> 1) My logic is just fine provided one actually understands the background >> material. > I guess you're the only one that understands it. You must be proud. Guess you weren't paying attention when others tried to explain it to you as well. It's not my fault you cannot comprehend it or are too lazy to try. >> 2) Since you admittedly don't read my posts in full, it's not my logic >> that is dysfunctional but rather your reading and comprehension. > OK, here it is in a nutshell. As a paranoid schizophrenic, you lump > everyone with opposing views (which *is* everyone) into your own > strictly defined category. In this case, it's "Pro Police". Here he goes again with the insults.... No I haven't called you pro police, not once, nor created any such group and you have no evidence of it beyond your own delusions. > You ASSumed > that because I brought up a couple points about "revenue" and procedure > that I tow the agenda all the way down the line. Nope. Those were separate points and addressed separately. > I never said that, but > it makes it easier for your paranoid side to deal with. I never said a > word about obeying speed limits, but you automatically ASSumed I was in > on this 85th percentile sh.t and was therefore a hypocrite as a "Pro > Police" person. You are, predictably, having trouble distinguishing one > 'adversary" from the next. I'll just let your text speak. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang/msg/cea66865f90865a 3?hl=en& -> Matter of fact, the "roadside revenue" that -> you complain endlessly about is one of the *only* payouts that you can -> actually avoid by your own actions. -> -> If you are feeling overwhelmed by American society, I suggest -> seriously looking into residing elsewhere. You will not be alone. There -> are enclaves of former Americans all over the place. These days, the -> Internet helps diffuse much of the homesickness. -> -> Or, you could get retribution for being submissive to authority and -> kill the next cop that pulls you over. Then, if you are still alive the -> next day, you will find that you will be rewarded with that "free" -> living you crave so much. Free meals. Free exercise time. Free showers -> (don't drop the soap). For the rest of your life. sh.t, how cool is it -> that fines levied on against speeders will pay for your very own cell?0 -> -> Sounds really good, doesn't it, Brent? Really, really good. What are -> you waiting for? And again... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang/msg/fbf1dec8c44d31e 6?hl=en& and again... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang/msg/45f9e3bab657ccc 8?hl=en& You message to just live with the system and obey it is quite clearly stated. In fact you repeat a portion of it below. > Worse yet, you are incapable of understanding that the majority of > people cannot be jammed into convenient categories. I understand it quite well and haven't. But hey, you keep wanting to make this about me instead of speed limits or any of the initial topic. I find that interesting. > The best example > are the politics freaks, who have to label others as Democrat or > Republican, right or left, or whatever. Then it becomes easier to jump > up and down and point fingers at imagined "transgressions", as that > person is "supposed to" think and act per the book. Wrong; oh so wrong. Now using that as an example really is a display of your stupidity in commenting on things you haven't been paying attention to. Now go to google, you'll find posts going back _YEARS_ where I mention that very thing showing I understand group lumping very well. > It ain't black and white, Brently. It's all shades of gray. The > non-sheep will examine each topic individually and form his or her own > opinion regardless of what he or she is "supposed" to think. And I have. While you spew 'love it or leave it', I've examined the issues. > You like to think you are a smart guy. But it's just a jumble in > your head. When so many people tell you in one way or another that you > are dysfunctional, don't you think you should spend some real time > figuring out why? Let's see... I clearly state an argument, support it with research, and then you and others insult me, attack me, call me 'dysfunctional', rather than address the point at hand. Gee... wonder why that is. Instead of attacking me, how about staying on topic and showing me wrong? >> My problems? They are everyone's problem. You just choose to give into >> apathy and ignore them. Don't worry, the results of your apathy will >> probably come to bite you all in the a.s soon enough. > Well, Doomsday predictions are another manifestation of the > paranoid, unfortunately. Who said anything about doomsday? I was refering to things like having the cash for your dream mustang taken on your way to picking it up. Your car siezed without due-process, and any host of more severe penalties that have come into play since people don't stand up to the lesser scams. Increment by increment it progresses. Where did it start? The good old small down speed trap. Here's the kind of thing I meant, I'll limit myself to ones in your state since you told me: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/15/1562.asp "Arizona: Freeway Speed Cameras Jail Innocent Motorists Drivers are having their licenses suspended without their knowledge because of photo ticketing in Scottsdale, Arizona. The proliferation of speed cameras in Arizona, particularly Scottsdale's Loop 101 freeway camera program, has caused a significant number of motorists to be arrested for driving on a suspended license, even though these drivers had no idea they had ever done anything wrong in the first place." http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/15/1555.asp "Arizona: Seizure Law Brings Big Cash" "Last January, an Arizona law took effect requiring police to seize the vehicles of individuals accused -- but not convicted -- of certain violations. Already at least two jurisdictions are generating millions in revenue." That's the kind of thing I was refering to. > Following through, the inability of our > populace to undo a well-orchestrated system designed by the people who [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Flies. > Face it, we don't own this country, and never will. Since you mention that, you might want to become better informed on what the 'owners' are up to, because doing nothing is going to result in death and poverty. But that's getting far off topic, so I'll leave that as a homework excerise for you. A good starting point is what the fed has been doing with the money supply. > What's the answer, Brently? Well, for me, the best way to thumb my > nose at the oppression is to concentrate on living the rest of my life > doing things that put a smile on my face. If you die bitter (and YOU > will), then "they" have won. And you talk about ASSuming things... instead of discussing topic, you start ASSuming about me. And what do you do when the owners seek to stamp out the things you do that put a smile on your face? Do you stand up then? Or are you just hoping to be dead before then? (snip) > You message to just live with the system and obey it is quite clearly > stated. In fact you repeat a portion of it below. Nope. Living within the system and obeying it "to the letter" are two different things altogether. > > Worse yet, you are incapable of understanding that the majority of > > people cannot be jammed into convenient categories. > > I understand it quite well and haven't. But hey, you keep wanting to make > this about me instead of speed limits or any of the initial topic. I find > that interesting. The initial topic was the kid that killed himself in a race. I responded with general comments and then YOU came in with your personal experiences and gripes. Joe's right; you are a freakin' idiot. > > The best example > > are the politics freaks, who have to label others as Democrat or [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > google, you'll find posts going back _YEARS_ where I mention that very > thing showing I understand group lumping very well. I don't waste the amount of time you do googling your a.s off. I'm looking at the here and now. Idiot. > > It ain't black and white, Brently. It's all shades of gray. The > > non-sheep will examine each topic individually and form his or her own > > opinion regardless of what he or she is "supposed" to think. > > And I have. While you spew 'love it or leave it', I've examined the > issues. OK, so what's YOUR answer, Brent? You spend an enormous amount of time whining about everyone else's POV. Let us hear what YOU are going to do to make your life worth living. C'mon, smart guy, now's your shot. Don't blow it. > > You like to think you are a smart guy. But it's just a jumble in > > your head. When so many people tell you in one way or another that you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > then you and others insult me, attack me, call me 'dysfunctional', rather > than address the point at hand. The point is that you don't see things the same way the rest of the humans do. > Gee... wonder why that is. Instead of attacking me, how about staying on > topic and showing me wrong? I'm showing you as dysfunctional and a paranoid schizophrenic. You made this topic a personal thing. So far nobody is arguing with my evaluation of your condition. > >> My problems? They are everyone's problem. You just choose to give into > >> apathy and ignore them. Don't worry, the results of your apathy will [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > That's the kind of thing I was refering to. Scottsdale is hardly a small town speed trap (and it is NOT snowbird territory). It is within metro Phoenix and is financially and aesthetically the Beverly Hills of Arizona. I have little doubt that at some point the lawyers who proliferate there will shut down the cameras on behalf of their Big Bucks clients. I have already heard chatter about that on the radio. However, I don't care what happens in Scottsdale. Once again, you missed my point about defining the situation where *I* live and driving accordingly. I know where I can goof off and where I can't. And if I get a ticket, like I said, tough sh.t. I pay the token, go to traffic school, and proceed as usual. I don't lose sleep about what happens elsewhere. I'll let you lose the sleep. > > Following through, the inability of our > > populace to undo a well-orchestrated system designed by the people who [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > homework excerise for you. A good starting point is what the fed has been > doing with the money supply. Doesn't concern me. That's why my Plan B involves skipping out to another country when the time comes. > > What's the answer, Brently? Well, for me, the best way to thumb my > > nose at the oppression is to concentrate on living the rest of my life [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > And you talk about ASSuming things... instead of discussing topic, you > start ASSuming about me. Again, YOU are the topic. > And what do you do when the owners seek to stamp out the things you do > that put a smile on your face? Do you stand up then? Or are you just > hoping to be dead before then? I hope to be dead. If not, then the first few Feds that come through my door will be scattered all over the porch, landscaping, and the street. It's all good. SignatureCobraJet > (snip) >> >> You message to just live with the system and obey it is quite clearly >> stated. In fact you repeat a portion of it below. > Nope. Living within the system and obeying it "to the letter" are > two different things altogether. who said anything about to the letter? Not me. that whole thing about being in control of being revenued for speed indicates the reader should obey if he doesn't like the game. I quoted a considerable portion of your text that set the context of living with the system, playing the game, and obeying where not wanting to play the game. > The initial topic was the kid that killed himself in a race. I > responded with general comments and then YOU came in with your personal > experiences and gripes. Joe's right; you are a freakin' idiot. You replied to me CJ. I made only one personal experience comment regarding your claim on addresses being SOP, simply because it was 180 degrees different. You then went off the deep end.... >> > The best example >> > are the politics freaks, who have to label others as Democrat or >> > Republican, right or left, or whatever. Then it becomes easier to jump >> > up and down and point fingers at imagined "transgressions", as that >> > person is "supposed to" think and act per the book. Wrong; oh so wrong. >> Now using that as an example really is a display of your stupidity in >> commenting on things you haven't been paying attention to. Now go to >> google, you'll find posts going back _YEARS_ where I mention that very >> thing showing I understand group lumping very well. > I don't waste the amount of time you do googling your a.s off. I'm > looking at the here and now. Idiot. Talk about a complete lack of reading comprehension. You would have done better to have not replied. >> > It ain't black and white, Brently. It's all shades of gray. The >> > non-sheep will examine each topic individually and form his or her own >> > opinion regardless of what he or she is "supposed" to think. >> And I have. While you spew 'love it or leave it', I've examined the >> issues. > OK, so what's YOUR answer, Brent? You spend an enormous amount of > time whining about everyone else's POV. Nice projection. > Let us hear what YOU are going > to do to make your life worth living. C'mon, smart guy, now's your > shot. Don't blow it. What does my personal life have to do with anything regarding the topic at hand or anything else in this NG? Why are you so obsessed with me? >> > You like to think you are a smart guy. But it's just a jumble in >> > your head. When so many people tell you in one way or another that you >> > are dysfunctional, don't you think you should spend some real time >> > figuring out why? >> Let's see... I clearly state an argument, support it with research, and >> then you and others insult me, attack me, call me 'dysfunctional', rather >> than address the point at hand. > The point is that you don't see things the same way the rest of the > humans do. And again you want to make this about me. >> Gee... wonder why that is. Instead of attacking me, how about staying on >> topic and showing me wrong? > I'm showing you as dysfunctional and a paranoid schizophrenic. You > made this topic a personal thing. holy projection batman! I did no such thing. > So far nobody is arguing with my evaluation of your condition. Irrelevant. >> Who said anything about doomsday? I was refering to things like having >> the cash for your dream mustang taken on your way to picking it up. Your [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> That's the kind of thing I was refering to. > Scottsdale is hardly a small town speed trap (and it is NOT snowbird > territory). Talk about separation problems. > However, I don't care what happens in Scottsdale. Once again, you > missed my point about defining the situation where *I* live and driving > accordingly. I know where I can goof off and where I can't. And if I > get a ticket, like I said, tough sh.t. I pay the token, go to traffic > school, and proceed as usual. I don't lose sleep about what happens > elsewhere. I'll let you lose the sleep. So you're vile is directed at me because I don't share your apathy. When they take your car without due process, don't say you weren't warned. Oh, that's right, it's only going to happen to those other people, not you. >> Since you mention that, you might want to become better informed on what >> the 'owners' are up to, because doing nothing is going to result in death >> and poverty. But that's getting far off topic, so I'll leave that as a >> homework excerise for you. A good starting point is what the fed has been >> doing with the money supply. > Doesn't concern me. That's why my Plan B involves skipping out to > another country when the time comes. Better move your money to euros now then... >> > What's the answer, Brently? Well, for me, the best way to thumb my >> > nose at the oppression is to concentrate on living the rest of my life >> > doing things that put a smile on my face. If you die bitter (and YOU >> > will), then "they" have won. >> And you talk about ASSuming things... instead of discussing topic, you >> start ASSuming about me. > Again, YOU are the topic. YOU aim to make me the topic. >> And what do you do when the owners seek to stamp out the things you do >> that put a smile on your face? Do you stand up then? Or are you just >> hoping to be dead before then? > I hope to be dead. If not, then the first few Feds that come through > my door will be scattered all over the porch, landscaping, and the > street. It's all good. So you do have a line. > > (snip) > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > text that set the context of living with the system, playing the game, > and obeying where not wanting to play the game. Have you seen that YouTube vid where the doggy actually catches his own tail and proceeds up the steps with it firmly in mouth? It's funny. Reminds me of you. > > > The initial topic was the kid that killed himself in a race. I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > regarding your claim on addresses being SOP, simply because it was 180 > degrees different. You then went off the deep end.... I replied to the last post in the thread at the time. Deep end? LOL. If I went there, I'd land right on you. > >> > The best example > >> > are the politics freaks, who have to label others as Democrat or [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Talk about a complete lack of reading comprehension. You would have done > better to have not replied. Nah, better to keep you dancing until I return to my project outside. > > >> > It ain't black and white, Brently. It's all shades of gray. The [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Nice projection. And accurate, too. > > Let us hear what YOU are going > > to do to make your life worth living. C'mon, smart guy, now's your > > shot. Don't blow it. > > What does my personal life have to do with anything regarding the topic > at hand or anything else in this NG? Why are you so obsessed with me? Damn, you getting funnier by the post. You bitch incessantly about the system, and yet you have no solutions. I knew you'd blow it. Impotence is a bitch, no? > >> > You like to think you are a smart guy. But it's just a jumble in > >> > your head. When so many people tell you in one way or another that you [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > And again you want to make this about me. Considering the amount of time you spend replying to my posts, why not? > > >> Gee... wonder why that is. Instead of attacking me, how about staying on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > holy projection batman! I did no such thing. Your first reply went on about you getting pulled over and sh.t and I just sat there thinking, "WTF is this guy talking about?" However, remembering your propensity for skewed thinking, I decided to needle you a bit. > > So far nobody is arguing with my evaluation of your condition. > > Irrelevant. Not really. It speaks volumes. You just can't hear it through the voices in your head. > >> Who said anything about doomsday? I was refering to things like having > >> the cash for your dream mustang taken on your way to picking it up. Your [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Talk about separation problems. Huh? > > However, I don't care what happens in Scottsdale. Once again, you > > missed my point about defining the situation where *I* live and driving [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > they take your car without due process, don't say you weren't warned. Oh, > that's right, it's only going to happen to those other people, not you. Wow. What an idiot. A paranoid idiot. > >> Since you mention that, you might want to become better informed on what > >> the 'owners' are up to, because doing nothing is going to result in death [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Better move your money to euros now then... Gold is better. > > >> > What's the answer, Brently? Well, for me, the best way to thumb my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > YOU aim to make me the topic. Working pretty well so far, I'd say. > > >> And what do you do when the owners seek to stamp out the things you do [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So you do have a line. Of course. And weaponry. Just how in gawd's name could you mistake ME for some f.cking pansy? Idiot. There ya go; ASSuming apathy equates weakness. Got broadband? Join me here: http://www.1.fm/Stations/ChilloutLounge/TuneIn.aspx Inhale. Exhale. Repeat. SignatureCobraJet > Have you seen that YouTube vid where the doggy actually catches his > own tail and proceeds up the steps with it firmly in mouth? It's funny. > Reminds me of you. Pointless, irrelevant personal insult. > I replied to the last post in the thread at the time. Then you should have deleted attributions and quoted material. You did not. I replied to that post and then you went into flame mode because I pointed out you were not universally correct. > Deep end? LOL. > If I went there, I'd land right on you. Pointless, irrelevant personal insult. >> >> Now using that as an example really is a display of your stupidity in >> >> commenting on things you haven't been paying attention to. Now go to >> >> google, you'll find posts going back _YEARS_ where I mention that very >> >> thing showing I understand group lumping very well. >> > I don't waste the amount of time you do googling your a.s off. I'm >> > looking at the here and now. Idiot. >> Talk about a complete lack of reading comprehension. You would have done >> better to have not replied. > Nah, better to keep you dancing until I return to my project outside. Irrelevant and nothing more than admiting to be a troll. >> > OK, so what's YOUR answer, Brent? You spend an enormous amount of >> > time whining about everyone else's POV. >> >> Nice projection. > > And accurate, too. You've done very well at projection. >> > Let us hear what YOU are going >> > to do to make your life worth living. C'mon, smart guy, now's your >> > shot. Don't blow it. >> What does my personal life have to do with anything regarding the topic >> at hand or anything else in this NG? Why are you so obsessed with me? > Damn, you getting funnier by the post. You bitch incessantly about > the system, and yet you have no solutions. I knew you'd blow it. > Impotence is a bitch, no? You didn't ask about solutions regarding the system. You asked what makes my life worth living. The answer to the question you asked is not relevant. A solution to the system would be an informed population that demands their rights be protected and holds government accountable. A free population that refuses to be ruled but elects people to manage the business of government. Those elected would serve for a short time then return to their normal lives to be replaced by others. Of course this is probably an alien concept to those who have nothing but apathy and laziness. >> > The point is that you don't see things the same way the rest of the >> > humans do. >> And again you want to make this about me. > Considering the amount of time you spend replying to my posts, why not? Irrelevant, just like trying to make the thread about me. >> >> Gee... wonder why that is. Instead of attacking me, how about staying on >> >> topic and showing me wrong? >> > I'm showing you as dysfunctional and a paranoid schizophrenic. You >> > made this topic a personal thing. >> holy projection batman! I did no such thing. > Your first reply went on about you getting pulled over and sh.t and > I just sat there thinking, "WTF is this guy talking about?" However, > remembering your propensity for skewed thinking, I decided to needle > you a bit. Your lack of comprehension is not my problem. You made a universal claim of SOP, I simply used a personal experience to show that to be incorrect in a universal sense. That is not making the topic personal. You did that with the end of your followup. Of course you will fail to understand this as well. >> > So far nobody is arguing with my evaluation of your condition. >> Irrelevant. > Not really. It speaks volumes. You just can't hear it through the > voices in your head. It is irrelevant and speaks nothing. >> Talk about separation problems. > Huh? Exactly. you're mixed up and clueless. You're mixing subject matter. >> > However, I don't care what happens in Scottsdale. Once again, you >> > missed my point about defining the situation where *I* live and driving >> > accordingly. I know where I can goof off and where I can't. And if I >> > get a ticket, like I said, tough sh.t. I pay the token, go to traffic >> > school, and proceed as usual. I don't lose sleep about what happens >> > elsewhere. I'll let you lose the sleep. >> So you're vile is directed at me because I don't share your apathy. When >> they take your car without due process, don't say you weren't warned. Oh, >> that's right, it's only going to happen to those other people, not you. > Wow. What an idiot. A paranoid idiot. Irrelevant insult. Read the second article I pointed you to. >> > Doesn't concern me. That's why my Plan B involves skipping out to >> > another country when the time comes. >> >> Better move your money to euros now then... > Gold is better. It is. But you won't get it out of the country if the sh.t hits the fan that hard. You need to remember what good old FDR did in the 30s regarding gold. >> > Again, YOU are the topic. >> >> YOU aim to make me the topic. > > Working pretty well so far, I'd say. You are quite obessive about it, i'll give you that. >> >> And what do you do when the owners seek to stamp out the things you do >> >> that put a smile on your face? Do you stand up then? Or are you just >> >> hoping to be dead before then? >> > I hope to be dead. If not, then the first few Feds that come through >> > my door will be scattered all over the porch, landscaping, and the >> > street. It's all good. >> So you do have a line. > Of course. And weaponry. Just how in gawd's name could you mistake > ME for some f.cking pansy? Idiot. There ya go; ASSuming apathy equates > weakness. I did no such thing. Your comprehension problem again. I only inquired to the depth of your apathy. The point at which you did get your a.s off the couch. Weakness never entered into the equation. How strong or weak you are is irrelevant if you won't get your a.s off the couch. > > Gold is better. > > It is. But you won't get it out of the country if the sh.t hits the fan > that hard. You need to remember what good old FDR did in the 30s > regarding gold. "If the sh.t hits the fan that hard"? What do you expect, a one-day Armageddon? WTF are you talking about? SignatureCobraJet >> > Gold is better. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "If the sh.t hits the fan that hard"? What do you expect, a one-day > Armageddon? WTF are you talking about? There was this little thing that happened in the 1930s called the great depression.... remember you blathering about we would all be f.cked, poverty etc? Also you know what happens to all fiat currencies eventually? Well at least you had a 1/20th of a clue there. > >> > Gold is better. > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > poverty etc? Also you know what happens to all fiat currencies > eventually? Well at least you had a 1/20th of a clue there. Answer the question directly. This is not the 30's. State what you expect will happen now or within the next few years and why. Don't blow this one like you did that question about your solutions for your miserable, trembling, sand-in-the-face existence. Let's see what a paranoid masterpiece reaelly looks like. SignatureCobraJet >> >> > Gold is better. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > miserable, trembling, sand-in-the-face existence. Let's see what a > paranoid masterpiece reaelly looks like. What I think will happen is not relevant. I was replying in the context that you had created. In the context you created, you would have to activate plan B to escape an economic disaster of some sort here in the USA. You said that gold was better euros. I answered it is, but it would be difficult to get out the country. It's clear you are simply ignorant of history and the problems with transporting gold across international borders. This, like the rest of your ignorance is not my problem. Why do you keep asking irrelevant questions about what I think, yet you consistantly post that you don't care what I have to say. You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with me. Why have a series of simple facts on driving so rocked your world that you have gone on this quest of yours? But I'll indulge you here. The dollar right now is between a rock and a hard place. Run away government spending, the fed increasing the money supply at an annual rate of about 10% according to the reconstructed M3 money supply data, trade deficits, the fragility of the housing market, etc all have the dollar in a bad spot. The fed needs to raise interest rates to prop up the dollar against other currencies but at the same time needs interest rates low to prevent tanking the housing market. Now if the fed screws up, the dollar could tank in a worst case scenario. IE, when you would have to do plan B. Anyway, if you don't believe me, just read what Joseph Stiglitz has to say, he only won a nobel prize in the field.... > >> >> > Gold is better. > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Anyway, if you don't believe me, just read what Joseph Stiglitz has to > say, he only won a nobel prize in the field.... What I don't believe is that the Guvmint will allow the society it feeds off to collapse. Being King of the Hill means nothing if the hill is pure manure. Look at China. It has embraced capitalism for the sheer profit of it all. I mean, what's the point of ruling billions when they're all broke. Get it? The "apathetic" masses will come alive when faced with giving up their SUV's, home theaters, and cutting-edge gadgets. Of that I'm sure. In the meantime, I'll let you and the other paranoids like you do my worrying for me. It pleases me, that. Feel free to neener me if Armageddon hits. I'll do my best to hear you over the gunfire. SignatureCobraJet >> What I think will happen is not relevant. I was replying in the context >> that you had created. In the context you created, you would have to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> of history and the problems with transporting gold across international >> borders. This, like the rest of your ignorance is not my problem. >> Why do you keep asking irrelevant questions about what I think, yet you >> consistantly post that you don't care what I have to say. You seem to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> Anyway, if you don't believe me, just read what Joseph Stiglitz has to >> say, he only won a nobel prize in the field.... > What I don't believe is that the Guvmint will allow the society it > feeds off to collapse. Being King of the Hill means nothing if the hill > is pure manure. Look at China. It has embraced capitalism for the sheer > profit of it all. I mean, what's the point of ruling billions when > they're all broke. Get it? China aims to dominate the US. What better way to do than to have the dollar under their thumb? > The "apathetic" masses will come alive when faced with giving up > their SUV's, home theaters, and cutting-edge gadgets. Of that I'm sure. > In the meantime, I'll let you and the other paranoids like you do my > worrying for me. It pleases me, that. If you weren't worried, you would have all your money in US dollars and not bother with gold and firearms. No need being prepared for something that can't happen.... > Feel free to neener me if Armageddon hits. I'll do my best to hear > you over the gunfire. I dunno... I am just relaying what I picked up. Like I said, the one with the best resume only has a nobel price and once was high up at the world bank. Another in the federal reserve, etc and so forth. I think what they said makes sense. Maybe the fed will walk the tight rope successfully. But it is a tightrope, and there might be a wind shift they can't handle. > OK, here it is in a nutshell. As a paranoid schizophrenic, you lump > everyone with opposing views (which *is* everyone) into your own [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Have a nice week. Chill. Ohmigod.... I completely agree with you. This cannot be. dwight :> I'd like to think the snowbird thing was just for the old farts. :>However, I've seen this " I can count the pebbles in the asphalt" :>technique from much younger drivers with northern plates. I can only :>conclude that people from any area with any kind of real winter weather :>can't drive worth sh.t compared to the warm state natives. Well I'm a New Englander currently living in Maryland and we NE'ers don't find it necessary to slow down to 35 mph on the interstates every time it drizzles. In my experience, MD drivers and those in neighboring states , plus the District, are far worse than anything I experienced in NE in 30+ years of winters, summers, etc... > :> I'd like to think the snowbird thing was just for the old farts. > :>However, I've seen this " I can count the pebbles in the asphalt" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > neighboring states , plus the District, are far worse than anything I > experienced in NE in 30+ years of winters, summers, etc... You've got that right. I left Pennsylvania during a "blizzard" (hey, it was snowing, snowing hard, so the "meteoroligists" were all calling it a blizzard). We were doing about 55 on I-95, heading south. By Baltimore, it was 45, but in Washington, DC (where the snow had accumulated as much as 1/2" already), traffic was stopped. It's like they'd never seen the stuff before. I understand that EVERY snow in Washington is the first snow. dwight :>> :> I'd like to think the snowbird thing was just for the old farts. :>> :>However, I've seen this " I can count the pebbles in the asphalt" [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] :>It's like they'd never seen the stuff before. I understand that EVERY snow :>in Washington is the first snow. LOLOL! They cancel school here for an inch of snow and DC seems to come to a standstill at the slightest hint of any sort of precipitation. Some of the worst drivers in the country seem to be in this area. :>dwight >:>> :> I'd like to think the snowbird thing was just for the old farts. >:>> :>However, I've seen this " I can count the pebbles in the asphalt" [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >:>dwight DC comes to a standstill even without precipitation because it's in the air... just look at the politicians. >http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp Contrary to Brent's postulation about revenues, the institution of fines has been set as a deterance to violating laws. "Speed Traps", although there are many nation wide, are actually few and far between. But, there is just no getting through to Brent. Not sure whether CJ is right about Brent or not. Perhaps it's just bi-polar mood disorder (depends on whether he hears voices compelling him or not). He does seem to have OCD (obsessive-compulsive disprder) which is not unusual. Those with depressive conditions tend to have additional conditions which go hand in hand. Good luck to you Brent. I might suggest you go to your other NG where the other patients are more apt to catch your fever and spread it. >>http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1702.asp > Contrary to Brent's postulation about revenues, the institution of > fines has been set as a deterance to violating laws. "Speed Traps", > although there are many nation wide, are actually few and far between. Oh jeebbus... do you live in a cave? There has been article after article after article of how traffic tickets are used as a revenue stream. One quota system after another exposed. Explore the other articles on the website above for a primer. Speed trap areas are rather common, it's speed trap towns that are much less so. Here: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1743.asp Iowa: Police Chief Suspended Over Ticket Quota <...> In the year ending April 30, 2005, the city issued 1136 tickets worth $124,933. In the year ending April 30, 2007, that figure jumped to 2427 tickets worth $309,261. The number of citations issued in Pleasant Hill per capita is nearly double that of Des Moines, which generates $5.9 million from its ticketing program. http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1735.asp Denver, Colorado Ticket Quota Uncovered <...> Police officials in Denver, Colorado confirmed that they have placed pressure on rank-and-file officers to issue a minimum number of traffic citations. Since September, those that have failed to produce have fa |
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