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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / August 2007

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Purpose of plastic deflector under the engine ???

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markg9@yahoo.com - 21 Aug 2007 00:40 GMT
I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.

1. What is the proper name of that part (it's attached via two plastic
snap-in screws) ?

2. Is there a source online that sells these? (mine is completely
shot)

3. Do they really do much? I'm assuming they are mostly to keep dirt
off the bottom of the engine and maybe help with air flow.

Thanks
Mark
trainfan1 - 21 Aug 2007 01:42 GMT
> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
> under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.
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> Thanks
> Mark

"Radiator Support Lower Front Air Deflector"

$15.40 for the GT.
$24.04 for the Cobra R.

At a dealer near you.

They're really not worth shipping.

Rob
Michael Johnson - 21 Aug 2007 01:52 GMT
> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
> under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.
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> 3. Do they really do much? I'm assuming they are mostly to keep dirt
> off the bottom of the engine and maybe help with air flow.

The purpose of these deflectors is to direct cool air into the radiator.
 I would recommend keeping it in place.  In the old days the grill
actually let enough air into the radiator to get the cooling job done.
Nowadays with all the plastic bumpers sporting the "aero" look the grill
is just ornamental and thus the need for the air deflectors under the
bumpers to supply enough air to the radiator to allow proper cooling
while the car is moving.
NoOption5L@aol.com - 21 Aug 2007 02:08 GMT
> mar...@yahoo.com wrote:

I'll second what Mike wrote.  Those deflectors are VITALLY important
to the proper cooling of the radiator/engine!  Be sure to replace a
broken one.

Patrick

> > I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
> > under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.

> > 1. What is the proper name of that part (it's attached via two plastic
> > snap-in screws) ?

> > 2. Is there a source online that sells these? (mine is completely
> > shot)
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> bumpers to supply enough air to the radiator to allow proper cooling
> while the car is moving.
GILL - 21 Aug 2007 02:16 GMT
>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
>> under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> bumpers to supply enough air to the radiator to allow proper cooling
> while the car is moving.
Yep, bottom feeders. Makes me wonder if the Mach I front spoiler is bad
for cooling.

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Dear Leader - 21 Aug 2007 05:13 GMT
>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
>> under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> supply enough air to the radiator to allow proper cooling while the car is
> moving.

who has them for Fox body now?  havent seen it in the catalogs, and dealers
dont do such old cars.
Michael Johnson - 21 Aug 2007 05:26 GMT
>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
>>> under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> who has them for Fox body now?  havent seen it in the catalogs, and dealers
> dont do such old cars.

Year One?  Maybe you local salvage yard.
Joe - 21 Aug 2007 12:00 GMT
>>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's
>>>> right under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too
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>
> Year One?  Maybe you local salvage yard.

Do these things really help with cooling on Fox cars?  Michael, do you
have yours on your LX?
Dear Leader - 21 Aug 2007 16:11 GMT
>>>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's
>>>>> right under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too
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> Do these things really help with cooling on Fox cars?  Michael, do you
> have yours on your LX?

1993 LX 5.0,  I think only the junk yards have them, my air dam is bent back
some

also would like to have new door hinges the part that bolts onto the car,
seems like a weld broke off part that keeps the door open, Door hinges are
OK, but a tab in the middle broke off on both doors 140K miles on it.
Michael Johnson - 21 Aug 2007 18:05 GMT
>>>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's
>>>>> right under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too
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> Do these things really help with cooling on Fox cars?  Michael, do you
> have yours on your LX?

Mine still has it.  I can't tell you if not having it makes a difference
since I have never been without it.  I can see where it will deflect a
lot of air into the radiator when the car is moving.  The grill doesn't
let much air pass to the radiator so most of it has to come from under
the bumper.  On a basically stock engine it might not matter since the
cooling system is over designed on most cars.  I do believe Ford put it
there for a reason though.
Joe - 22 Aug 2007 00:23 GMT
>>>>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's
>>>>>> right under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too
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> cooling system is over designed on most cars.  I do believe Ford put it
> there for a reason though.

My issue is stand-still traffic.  No air dam's going to help when the
car's inching along at rush hour.
Michael Johnson - 22 Aug 2007 04:16 GMT
>>>>>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's
>>>>>>> right under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats
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> My issue is stand-still traffic.  No air dam's going to help when the
> car's inching along at rush hour.

My feeling is that the fan clutch takes over at slow speeds and having
proper air flow at higher speeds requires the fan to be free spinning.
At idle or slow speeds the engine typically isn't under much of a load
as it can be at highway speeds.  If the radiator isn't receiving enough
air then the clutch will be engaging the fan and this might not move
enough air to keep the engine cool when under a continuous load like
going up a long grade.  Also, having the fan engaged might reduce
mileage somewhat.  When moving at highway speeds RPMs are typically low
so the fan can't move a lot of air where the air dam can shove it into
the radiator at 60-70 mph.  I don't see a downside to having the air dam
in place.
Joe - 22 Aug 2007 13:01 GMT
>>>>>>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's
>>>>>>>> right under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats
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> the radiator at 60-70 mph.  I don't see a downside to having the air dam
> in place.

Agreed, but mine's long since gone.  The car's lowered by 1-1/2" or so,
and that was enough to have ripped the air dam off.  As it is, I have to
drive the car up onto 2" boards just to change the oil because I can't
get under there.  Rides like it's on rails though..  ;)
Michael Johnson - 22 Aug 2007 19:01 GMT
>>>>>>>>> I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's
>>>>>>>>> right under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats
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> drive the car up onto 2" boards just to change the oil because I can't
> get under there.  Rides like it's on rails though..  ;)

If your car doesn't overheat then I wouldn't worry about it.  Since I
put the 2000 GT 17" rims and tires on my car I need to use boards to get
it up the ramps.
Fred - 22 Aug 2007 01:23 GMT
Leave it off if you ask me.
That part broke off my Saturn 6 years ago and I never replaced it.
Haven't noticed any problem without it.
Fred

>I have a 2K GT and keep knocking off the plastic spoiler that's right
> under the radiator every time I go into a driveway thats too steep.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks
> Mark
NoOption5L@aol.com - 22 Aug 2007 01:57 GMT
> Leave it off if you ask me.

Oh, don't think so, Fred.  My daughter's old '83 LTD (it's a Fox body
just like the Mustangs) had chronic overheating issues when we first
purchased the car.  Then I noticed the deflector was missing.  By
simply reattaching a new deflector, the car's overheating problem
vanished and never returned.

Lastly, the engineers don't put those deflectors on just for the hell
of it.  (If they could leave it off and save a dime they would.)  They
do serve a purpose, and that purpose is to deflect air up into the
radiator.  If you haven't noticed lately, most new cars don't have
large grills.  They're all "bottom-feeders".

Patrick

> That part broke off my Saturn 6 years ago and I never replaced it.
> Haven't noticed any problem without it.
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> > Thanks
> > Mark
Dear Leader - 22 Aug 2007 02:24 GMT
>> Leave it off if you ask me.
>
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>
> Patrick

it was a design change to remove the open front grill and close it off have
a new look, so the air dam deflects it up into the radiator, there are some
other plastic pieces around the front of the engine that help direct the
airflow into the radiator.

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