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1993 Cobra Parts

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BradandBrooks - 10 Sep 2007 06:52 GMT
Anyone know a good place to find them?  The Ford catalog is useless.

Thanks.

B
NoOption5L@aol.com - 11 Sep 2007 01:00 GMT
> Anyone know a good place to find them?  The Ford catalog is useless.

B,

What in particular are you looking for?

My two favorites for "5.0" parts are 50resto and PPI.

Patrick
'93 Cobra
BradandBrooks - 11 Sep 2007 06:06 GMT
>> Anyone know a good place to find them?  The Ford catalog is useless.
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> Patrick
> '93 Cobra

Nothing in particular, but will eventually.  Thanks guys.

Brad
NoOption5L@aol.com - 12 Sep 2007 01:57 GMT
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> > My two favorites for "5.0" parts are 50resto and PPI.

> Nothing in particular, but will eventually.  Thanks guys.

Brad,

Tell me about your car.

Patrick
'93 Cobra
BradandBrooks - 12 Sep 2007 06:45 GMT
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> Patrick
> '93 Cobra

I would if I could, but I don't have it yet.  ;)  I just bought it.  Getting
shipped up here from Florida.  Sold my ultra nice 93GT to pay for it.  All I
really know is that it's nice with 40,000 miles, red, grey cloth.  And 100%
stock.  I'm really torn between modding it or not.  I mean, a Vortech can be
removed.  Subs, can't.  Love the 93 Cobras, possibly my favorite Mustang
ever.  I really hope the plate "1ST SVT" or "93COBRA" isn't taken yet. I
only know of one other here in Calgary.  How about yours... I'm quite
curious.

Brad
NoOption5L@aol.com - 12 Sep 2007 23:15 GMT
> <NoOptio...@aol.com> wrote in message

> > Brad,

> > Tell me about your car.

> I would if I could, but I don't have it yet.  ;)  I just bought it.  Getting
> shipped up here from Florida.  Sold my ultra nice 93GT to pay for it.  All I
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> only know of one other here in Calgary.  How about yours... I'm quite
> curious.

Brad,

I got mine in '98 with 3X,000 miles.  At the time it was also pure
stock. It's black with a gray gut.  Soon after purchase I added a full
set of Konis, and a little later I added a set of headers, 3.55s,
larger mass-air meter, and an A9L processor (from a '90 GT).  I now
have 123,000 on it, but it still looks half its age -- zero door dings/
rust, though it does show some road wear.

Patrick
BradandBrooks - 13 Sep 2007 06:17 GMT
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> Patrick

Excellent car.  How do you find the handling vs the normal GT. I know Ford
did a few things different with the Cobra.  I was thinking of putting in the
Ford C springs, but maybe the F... not sure what kind of difference there is
between the two vs. the stock Cobra.

I can't wait for mine. It was supposed to be on the truck today but got
delayed to Friday... hope to get it before it snows.  lol

TTYL

Brad
NoOption5L@aol.com - 14 Sep 2007 02:49 GMT
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> > have 123,000 on it, but it still looks half its age -- zero door dings/
> > rust, though it does show some road wear.

> Excellent car.  How do you find the handling vs the normal GT.

The car I owned prior to Cobra was a '87 LX 5.0 I had purchased new.
Being an '87 it had the much smaller 15" 10-hole wheels.  It was a
complete stripper so it weighed about 300 lbs less than the Cobra and
the suspension is stiffer (less floaty) making it a bit more
tossable.  But the Cobra has far more grip and it rides much
smoother.

> I know Ford did a few things different with the Cobra.

The rear springs and shock valving are softer and the front sway bar
is smaller.

To sum it up, the GTs and 5.0 LX are boy racers.  The Cobra is more
mature.

 I was thinking of putting in the
> Ford C springs, but maybe the F... not sure what kind of difference there is
> between the two vs. the stock Cobra.

Stiffer.

> I can't wait for mine. It was supposed to be on the truck today but got
> delayed to Friday... hope to get it before it snows.  lol

Be sure to give me/us a review when you get it.

Patrick
BradandBrooks - 21 Sep 2007 08:23 GMT
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> Stiffer.

Hey Patrick...

So, the F are stiffer than the C?  Maybe that is the way I will go then.
Not looking for a Sunday driver with this car, more like a Saturday nite
driver.

What's with the smaller front sway bar?

What about tires?  Do you find the 245s are good enough? Might one go a bit
wider, especially on the rear?

How about the 3.08s? I think that is too tall (yes, coming from 2.73s) for
such a car. 3.55s should be the way to go here.

I don't know, I want subs, chassis stiffening, power adder, gears,
suspension, exhaust... holy, I think I just rang up $20,000 in bills there!
lol.  But then there is the 100% stock angle.  Those are the sweetest over
time.  I'm so confused!!

Brad
NoOption5L@aol.com - 22 Sep 2007 02:49 GMT
> >> >> > Tell me about your car.

> >> >> I would if I could, but I don't have it yet.  ;)  I just bought it.
> >> >> Getting
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> >> >> only know of one other here in Calgary.  How about yours... I'm quite
> >> >> curious.

> >> > I got mine in '98 with 3X,000 miles.  At the time it was also pure
> >> > stock. It's black with a gray gut.  Soon after purchase I added a full
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> > tossable.  But the Cobra has far more grip and it rides much
> > smoother.

> >> I know Ford did a few things different with the Cobra.

> > The rear springs and shock valving are softer and the front sway bar
> > is smaller.

> > To sum it up, the GTs and 5.0 LX are boy racers.  The Cobra is more
> > mature.

> >  I was thinking of putting in the
> >> Ford C springs, but maybe the F... not sure what kind of difference there
> >> is
> >> between the two vs. the stock Cobra.

> > Stiffer.

> So, the F are stiffer than the C?  Maybe that is the way I will go then.

I don't know much about the Ford springs.  I was referring to
Motorsport springs vs stock Cobra.

All I can say about springs is I was very happy with my LX's
progressive-rate Eibachs.

> Not looking for a Sunday driver with this car, more like a Saturday nite
> driver.

I caution you to think long and hard before you make lots of changes.
IMO, these cars (5.0s) are starting to come into their prime.  5-10
years ago the modified cars got all the attention, but I think it's
starting to swing back the other way.  The clean original/original
looking cars are the ones most desired/respected.

> What's with the smaller front sway bar?

A softer suspension sticks better on bumpy streets.

> What about tires?  Do you find the 245s are good enough? Might one go a bit
> wider, especially on the rear?

IMO, going a size larger won't even be noticeable.  Plus, you won't be
able to rotate your tires.  Keep the 245s.

> How about the 3.08s? I think that is too tall (yes, coming from 2.73s) for
> such a car. 3.55s should be the way to go here.

Most modifiers will say go with 3.73s.  But for my tastes, 3.73s are
too steep with the 3.35 first gear.  3.55s tame that gear down a bit
and still have plenty of pull.  Most will call me crazy, but if I were
to do it again, I'd now go with 3.27s.  With 3-buck-a-gallon gas and
speed limits/expectations of 75-85 mph, 3.27s would be a little
friendlier/funner.

> I don't know, I want subs, chassis stiffening, power adder, gears,
> suspension, exhaust... holy, I think I just rang up $20,000 in bills there!

If I was going to do something "radical", I'd pop on a Kenne Bell S/C,
dial in a mild boost level (upgrade the fuel pump and ignition
system).  Then if I ever decided I no longer needed all that fun, it
would be quick and easy to take it back to pure stock.

> lol.  But then there is the 100% stock angle.  Those are the sweetest over
> time.  I'm so confused!!

I think you know my opinion by now.

Patrick
'93 Cobra (only has a couple upgrades, I like 'em looking stock.)
BradandBrooks - 22 Sep 2007 06:49 GMT
>> >> >> > Tell me about your car.
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> Patrick
> '93 Cobra (only has a couple upgrades, I like 'em looking stock.)

Yeah, it's a tough call.  Regardless what I do, or not, I'm keeping the
stock parts.  And if I'm not mistaken Eibach makes the Ford springs.

Damn, I hope the car gets here soon. It's been a month now since I bought
it, but I hear it's finally across the border!

TTYS.

Brad
BradandBrooks - 22 Sep 2007 07:13 GMT
>> >> >> > Tell me about your car.
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> Patrick
> '93 Cobra (only has a couple upgrades, I like 'em looking stock.)

Oh, one more thing... the only car rag, er, mag, I could find on a 1993
Cobra road test said that the extra 30 horsepower comes "via low-end torque"
(though the torque numbers are the same as the GT) and "thus, driveability".
WTH does that mean?  I can't imagine a car you can start from a dead stop in
2nd gear with 2.73s out back sacrificing driveability.  (I've done this in
my GT before many times... yeah yeah... hard on the car, whatever...)  Any
idea what this means or is it another mis-guided comment from a car rag?

Brad
NoOption5L@aol.com - 22 Sep 2007 13:48 GMT
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> my GT before many times... yeah yeah... hard on the car, whatever...)  Any
> idea what this means or is it another mis-guided comment from a car rag?

Brad,

No, they're correct.  It simply means the torque curve is a little
higher in rev range compared to the standard 5.0.  In other words,
it'll feel a little less punchy/torquey down low, but it's stronger up
top -- it's more of a rever than a grunter.

Patrick
BradandBrooks - 23 Sep 2007 09:56 GMT
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> Patrick

Cool.  Thanks. Some 3.55s will rectify that I am sure.

Gawd, my car better get here soon! I'm going crazy!  lol

B
WindsorFox - 24 Sep 2007 01:02 GMT
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> B

   Man up, get the 3.73s

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BradandBrooks - 24 Sep 2007 08:28 GMT
>>>> <NoOptio...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>    Man up, get the 3.73s

I dunno.  I was once shown some really interesting math by the guys at
Waterloo Ford in Edmonton (ugh, Edmonton, I know...lol ;)).  Anyway, they
showed me how 3.55s were the best gear for acceleration on the 5.0 given the
tranny ratios.  It was totally cool. I wish I had saved that.

Brad
Nicholas Anthony - 20 Sep 2007 05:27 GMT
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> Patrick

Out of curiosity why would you change the Cobra computer to an A9L? From
what I remember isn't the Cobra computer more aggressive and the way to go?
I purposely bought a Cobra MAF upgrade kit (with larger injectors and MAF)
for my '88 Mustang over the other Ford Motorsport MAF kit for this reason.
Would love to hear more about this. Also what is PPI and whats their
website? I am familar with 50resto, thanks!
Michael Johnson - 20 Sep 2007 12:44 GMT
>>> <NoOptio...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> Brad,
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> Would love to hear more about this. Also what is PPI and whats their
> website? I am familar with 50resto, thanks!

Regarding the A9L processor, it had the most aggressive tuning tables
programmed into it of all the EEC-IV boxes put into the Mustang.  They
are coverted by some but you can accomplish the same thing through after
market tuning with chips that piggy back on the output port of the computer.
NoOption5L@aol.com - 21 Sep 2007 03:25 GMT
On Sep 19, 11:27 pm, "Nicholas Anthony" <nospamfo...@soptonline.net>
wrote:

> Out of curiosity why would you change the Cobra computer to an A9L? From
> what I remember isn't the Cobra computer more aggressive and the way to go?
> I purposely bought a Cobra MAF upgrade kit (with larger injectors and MAF)
> for my '88 Mustang over the other Ford Motorsport MAF kit for this reason.
> Would love to hear more about this.

Mike already answered this one.

> Also what is PPI and whats their website? I am familiar with 50resto, thanks!

Here you go.

http://www.performancepartsinc.com/main.htm

Patrick
Mas Plak - 11 Sep 2007 01:18 GMT
> Anyone know a good place to find them?  The Ford catalog is useless.

www.texasmustang.com

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