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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / October 2007

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NoOption5L@aol.com - 06 Oct 2007 03:26 GMT
Green revolution
Is this the enviromentally friendly powerplant of the future?
Yes, we know this claim's been made before, yet here it is again.
There's a possibility that one day, heavy trucks and transit buses
could be powered by the enchantingly simple engine you see here. Right
now, the Green Revolution Engine is used in test applications, such as
powering a rotary lawnmower by burning propane. If it proves to work,
however, look out.

The Green Revolution Engine is the product of Cyclone Power
Technologies, based in Pompano Beach, Florida. Unlike just about every
other engine intended for automotive use, it operates on the principle
of external combustion. Fuel, meaning virtually any combustible liquid
or gas, is burned to heat its working fluid, de-ionized water, which
moves either a turbine or pistons once it becomes a pressurized vapor.

Since the water lubricates the engine without causing corrosion, no
oil pump is needed. The basic combustion process is heat-regenerative.
As a result, its developers say, its fuel consumption and emissions
are both considerably lower than those associated with normal small,
internal-combustion engines used for mowers or other power tools.
That's the popular rub that lawn care produces more emissions than the
Los Angeles freeways at a dead stop, and the like.

Cyclone was founded by Harry Schoell, a self-taught engineer and
marine architect who won his first patent for a hull design when he
was 22. The Green Revolution Engine won a patent in 2006, and the U.S.
Postal Service licensed it earlier this year for possible use in its
vast fleet of delivery trucks. Cyclone has predicted that a multi-
cylinder radial version could viably supplant current diesels in
larger rigs. Time will tell.

http://www.cyclonepower.com/cyclone_engine.html

Patrick
Mas Plak - 06 Oct 2007 04:10 GMT
> Green revolution
> Is this the enviromentally friendly powerplant of the future?
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> or gas, is burned to heat its working fluid, de-ionized water, which
> moves either a turbine or pistons once it becomes a pressurized vapor.

yea, Jay Leno has a few steam powered cars from the late 1800's

It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.

Try a sail instead.
dwight - 06 Oct 2007 14:20 GMT
>> Green revolution
>> Is this the enviromentally friendly powerplant of the future?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Try a sail instead.

"Bozo"? "Sail"?

dwight
WindsorFox - 06 Oct 2007 23:59 GMT
>>> Green revolution
>>> Is this the enviromentally friendly powerplant of the future?
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> dwight

   Clown sailing. Sounds like fun.

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NoOption5L@aol.com - 08 Oct 2007 02:10 GMT
> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.

> > Try a sail instead.

> "Bozo"? "Sail"?

dwight,

A response to this guy is pointless.  (He leaves turds all over
USENET)  He'll never see it.

Patrick
Mas Plak - 08 Oct 2007 02:30 GMT
>> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Patrick

"green" energy is not burning stinking peanut oil in a steam generator to
power your 5.0, Patrick.

Use Wind Power, which is green, by adding a sail onto the hood of your car,
and your own beer farts.
WindsorFox - 08 Oct 2007 03:06 GMT
>>> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> "green" energy is not burning stinking peanut oil in a steam generator to
> power your 5.0, Patrick.

   Yes it is. Biodiesel is used oil that would be tossed or recycled in
some way.

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dwight - 08 Oct 2007 03:21 GMT
>>>> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>    Yes it is. Biodiesel is used oil that would be tossed or recycled in
> some way.

Ahem. You're talking to someone who thinks that popping a sail atop a 3,000
pound motor vehicle is a viable alternative.

dwight
Mas Plak - 08 Oct 2007 05:48 GMT
>>>>> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> dwight

It will work in windy places and of course down hill for sure, also you can
drop the engine out, gas tank, bicycle tires, cut the back half of the car
off and save 2000 pounds.  Na, forget it, .......a horse could just pull it.
Green power for sure.
WindsorFox - 09 Oct 2007 02:23 GMT
>>>>> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> dwight

   Thank you; for the peach flavored iced tea now dripping down my 20"
Dell monitor. Both of them. Luckily, it's diet....

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"Are you da poe-lice?"  "No ma'am, we're musicians."

"So round, so firm, so fully packed, so easy on the draw" - Daffy Duck

"Too bad it wasn't "personality theft"...you'd be immune." - Herb Tarlek

Mas Plak - 08 Oct 2007 05:42 GMT
>>>> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>    Yes it is. Biodiesel is used oil that would be tossed or recycled in
> some way.

that is just the surface level media hype.
your still burning oil making CO2

Jay Leno did a piece on steam powered cars, they have two power strokes per
piston movement, 4 times more that a gas engine.
WindsorFox - 09 Oct 2007 02:27 GMT
>>>>> "Mas Plak" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> that is just the surface level media hype.
> your still burning oil making CO2

  Thanks for this info Al...

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"Are you da poe-lice?"  "No ma'am, we're musicians."

"So round, so firm, so fully packed, so easy on the draw" - Daffy Duck

Ahem. You're talking to someone who thinks that
popping a sail atop a 3,000  pound motor vehicle
is a viable alternative. - dwight

NoOption5L@aol.com - 08 Oct 2007 04:45 GMT
> >> > It is not *green* Bozo, you still burn fuel.

> >> > Try a sail instead.

> >> "Bozo"? "Sail"?

> > A response to this guy is pointless.  (He leaves turds all over
> > USENET)  He'll never see it.

> "green" energy is not burning stinking peanut oil in a steam generator to
> power your 5.0, Patrick.

> Use Wind Power, which is green, by adding a sail onto the hood of your car,
> and your own beer farts.

I stand corrected.  It's not turds, more like diarrhea.

Patrick
Michael Johnson - 06 Oct 2007 19:52 GMT
There are a number of alternatives to the current internal combustion
engine which is a very inefficient design.  I also like the concept of
an engine powered by highly compressed air.  I think the first true
alternative to the internal combustion engine will be a plug in hybrid
with an onboard electric generator that operates similar to today's
locomotives.

> Green revolution
> Is this the enviromentally friendly powerplant of the future?
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>
> Patrick
 
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