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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / November 2007The Korean Mustang Arrives In 2010
Here's another peak at what it will look like. http://www.thecarconnection.com/Car_Shows_and_Concept_Cars/Concept_Cars/Hyundai_ Genesis_Coupe_Coming_to_L_A_.S283.A13574.html Patrick > Here's another peak at what it will look like. > > http://www.thecarconnection.com/Car_Shows_and_Concept_Cars/Concept_Cars/Hyundai_ Genesis_Coupe_Coming_to_L_A_.S283.A13574.html > > Patrick Hmmmmmm. 4.6L V8, RWD? Still looks like a tiburon on steroids. Scott W. '68 Ranchero 500 '69 Mustang Sportsroof >> Here's another peak at what it will look like. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hmmmmmm. 4.6L V8, RWD? Still looks like a tiburon on steroids. That is not necessarily a bad thing. >>> Here's another peak at what it will look like. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That is not necessarily a bad thing. The newer Tib styling is nice but it's WAY underpowered. It hasn't got the grunt that the styling promises. Even with a V6; and from what I hear, there's no aftermarket support to make it perform. The original Tib, YECH. Of course, that's just my opinion. If they can make the new one run like it sounds like it should, then we should have a nice little pony car war coming on with Korea thrown in the mix now too. And knowing how Hyundai has worked these last many years, we'll probably be able to get into their V8 for about the same price as the V6 'Stang, and WAY less than the MoPar and bowtie crowd. Scott W. '68 Ranchero 500 '69 Mustang Sportsroof >>>> Here's another peak at what it will look like. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > to get into their V8 for about the same price as the V6 'Stang, and WAY less > than the MoPar and bowtie crowd. It will keep the domestics honest if they want to compete. Just look at the GT500 if you want to see how Ford treats their customers when there is no competition. >>>>> Here's another peak at what it will look like. http://www.thecarconnection.com/Car_Shows_and_Concept_Cars/Concept_ >>>>> Cars/Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Coming_to_L_A_.S283.A13574.html >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > at the GT500 if you want to see how Ford treats their customers when > there is no competition. Now what's that supposed to mean? I'm no GT500 customer, but I'd guess that Ford doesn't give a rat's a.s who buys them, just as long as somebody buys them. Especially over MSRP. >>>>>> Here's another peak at what it will look like. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > that Ford doesn't give a rat's a.s who buys them, just as long as > somebody buys them. Especially over MSRP. If Chevy or Chrysler offered a 500 hp Camaro or Challenger for $35k-$40k and held that price, how many GT500 would go for $50k-$60k? Ford cornered the market on high hp pony cars and took every advantage of it. Even when they said early on that they wouldn't. I hope this new Korean pony car puts the fear of God in Ford. They need some competition from someone in this segment. Michael Johnson <cds@erols.com> wrote in news:T_- dnROrVtroqbDanZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@giganews.com: >>>>>>> Here's another peak at what it will look like. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Korean pony car puts the fear of God in Ford. They need some > competition from someone in this segment. I think Ford's going to get their a.s handed to them in a sling once the hi-power Challengers and Camaros hit the street. When the Tiburon/Genesis arrives, Ford will already be going down. > Michael Johnson <cds@erols.com> wrote in news:T_- > dnROrVtroqbDanZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > hi-power Challengers and Camaros hit the street. When the > Tiburon/Genesis arrives, Ford will already be going down. I think depends on how everything is priced. The new Hyundai car will put pressure on all of them, IMO. >> Michael Johnson <cds@erols.com> wrote in news:T_- >> dnROrVtroqbDanZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > I think depends on how everything is priced. The new Hyundai car will > put pressure on all of them, IMO. Absolutely. Competition's great for the consumer. The more the merrier. <snip> >I think Ford's going to get their a.s handed to them in a sling once the >hi-power Challengers and Camaros hit the street. When the >Tiburon/Genesis arrives, Ford will already be going down. Every couple of years Ford gets their a.s handed to them, falls back, regroups & reinvents one of their golden age products, sees success, then rests on its laurels again. One of the greatest things they do is reinvigorate the market segment & get other manufactures to respond with other vehicles to compete. Do you think that GM & Chrysler (or who ever owns them this week) would have ever brought back their Pony Cars if Ford had not seen first year success with the Mustang? If the new Camaro & Challenger do enjoy segment success I'm quite sure we'll see Ford respond. At least (IMO) Ford is usually causing the others to respond with some innovations in the market segment they originally defined. Ford was the only one with a RWD Pony Car for quite a while.  SignatureIf life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives. > <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > regroups & reinvents one of their golden age products, sees success, > then rests on its laurels again. Aside from the Mustang, what was one such recent product? > One of the greatest things they do is reinvigorate the market segment > & get other manufactures to respond with other vehicles to compete. > Do you think that GM & Chrysler (or who ever owns them this week) > would have ever brought back their Pony Cars if Ford had not seen > first year success with the Mustang? I think Chrysler's decision to bring the Challenger to market was based more on their existing company philosophy and the SRT concept more than the Mustang's presence. GM may be another story. > If the new Camaro & Challenger do enjoy segment success I'm quite sure > we'll see Ford respond. At least (IMO) Ford is usually causing the > others to respond with some innovations in the market segment they > originally defined. Ford was the only one with a RWD Pony Car for > quite a while. I'll bet that if Ford responds to the competition, it'll be too little too late as usual. The mustang is going to once again (how long has it been since chevy gave up on that pos camaro?) Kick chevy and dodges a.s. The shelby is already competitivly priced. What do you want? Ford to GIVE it away? How much is a Corvette these days? do they still make the viper how much is it? Ford delivers a cheap sports car in the base Mustang if you cant afford a real one.. > Michael Johnson <cds@erols.com> wrote in news:T_- > dnROrVtroqbDanZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > hi-power Challengers and Camaros hit the street. When the > Tiburon/Genesis arrives, Ford will already be going down. > The mustang is going to once again (how long has it been since chevy > gave up on that pos camaro?) Kick chevy and dodges a.s. The shelby is > already competitivly priced. And what have you been smoking? > What do you want? Ford to GIVE it away? > How much is a Corvette these days? do they still make the viper how > much is it? Ford delivers a cheap sports car in the base Mustang if > you cant afford a real one.. Compared to Corvette and Viper, the GT500 is a "cheap sports car", albeit expensive. >> Michael Johnson <cds@erols.com> wrote in news:T_- >> dnROrVtroqbDanZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> the hi-power Challengers and Camaros hit the street. When the >> Tiburon/Genesis arrives, Ford will already be going down. >> It will keep the domestics honest if they want to compete. Just look >> at the GT500 if you want to see how Ford treats their customers when [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that Ford doesn't give a rat's a.s who buys them, just as long as > somebody buys them. Especially over MSRP. Ah, Joe, when Ford Motor Company sits back and not only allows but encourages it's dealership network to gouge their customers they garner absolutely NOTHING positive from it, period. What could have been a win-win-win situation for all, has evolved into a whole lot of bad feelings, bad press and many sour Ford customers. "My Name Is Nobody" <nobody@msn.com> wrote in news:DVdXi.1563$Zz.1425 @trnddc07: >>> It will keep the domestics honest if they want to compete. Just look >>> at the GT500 if you want to see how Ford treats their customers when [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > What could have been a win-win-win situation for all, has evolved into a > whole lot of bad feelings, bad press and many sour Ford customers. It's been that way for years, and it will probably continue until Ford goes down the tubes, which apparently isn't that far away. <snip> >Now what's that supposed to mean? I'm no GT500 customer, but I'd guess >that Ford doesn't give a rat's a.s who buys them, just as long as >somebody buys them. Especially over MSRP. While I'm not a customer for one either, I doubt highly Ford the corporation cares what they retail at as long as the dealer buys them. 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