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Ford E350 question.

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FloridaRadio - 29 Sep 2004 01:57 GMT
I have a 1994 Ford E350 460EFI  (G) with a bad fuel pump. The tank is behind
the rear axel. There is no way to replace the fuel pump without dropping the
tank as far as I can tell. It's a Motor Home so getting to it from the top by
cutting a hole in the floor is out of the question and not enough room on top
to do it without dropping the tank.
   My question is can an in-line fuel pump be used instead? I can get an
in-line that is equal to or really better than the 45psi and 33GPH rating that
Ford say's you need for this truck. It's an E350 Van chassis.
   Will the suction pressure in an in-line fuel pump be enough to lift the
fuel out of the tank?
Also can I leave the old pump in the tank as long as it's not restricted or
will it interfere with fuel flow?
   If anyone has done this I would like to hear how it worked and what type
pump you used.
Thanks for you help.

Gene
Spdloader - 29 Sep 2004 02:49 GMT
Why not just lower the tank, replace the pump, and be done with it?

Spdloader

>I have a 1994 Ford E350 460EFI  (G) with a bad fuel pump. The tank is
>behind
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> Gene
bomar - 02 Oct 2004 20:05 GMT
Much more interesting to come up with a convoluted solution than to just do
it correctly.....even when the right way to do it would involve less work.
Then later, when the jury rigged replacement starts causing no end of
problems you are able to make all sorts of posts about the new set of
dilemmas.

> Why not just lower the tank, replace the pump, and be done with it?
>
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> > Gene
Spdloader - 02 Oct 2004 21:32 GMT
Well said, bomar.

Spdloader

> Much more interesting to come up with a convoluted solution than to just
> do
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>> > Gene
bomar - 03 Oct 2004 05:12 GMT
Why thank you, spdloader!

> Well said, bomar.
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> >> > Gene
Julie in Tampa - 04 Oct 2004 15:00 GMT
Yes bomar, you were a lot of help.
bomar - 05 Oct 2004 02:46 GMT
I am a realist.

> Yes bomar, you were a lot of help.
Julie in Tampa - 07 Oct 2004 03:26 GMT
Anonymous Sender - 23 Oct 2004 07:42 GMT
Replacing the fuel pump is not hard. But you need someone else to help you, or
else get some kind of a jack, because the gas tank is rather heavy, even
empty.  I recently replaced a fuel pump and the hardest part was carefully
lowering it onto the ground.

How has your fuel pump failed? I had a sending unit failure, but it was still
pump gas. If your failed completely with some gas in it, it will be pretty
heavy. But if it still pumps gas, try to run it out of gas as much as you can.

Secondly, disconnect the battery.

Unbolt the bolts holding the tank to the frame via straps.

Then disconnect the clamps on the filler hose, vent hose on top of the
tank. Fuel line hairpin clips.  Electrical wires to the pump.

Install a new pump and do the above in reverse.

The biggest thing is, a new pump is rather expensive, close to $200. I had to
pay that just because the floating thing in it got full of gas and "drowned",
thus always reading empty.  I could have fixed the old pump but I decided that
since I went through all that trouble, I might as well install a new one.
I hear it is a common problem in early 90's F250/F350s. Nice vehicles, but a
lot of misc. electrical problems caused by age, not mileage.

> floridaradio@aol.com (FloridaRadio) wrote:
> I have a 1994 Ford E350 460EFI (G) with a bad fuel pump. The tank is behind
> the rear axel. There is no way to replace the fuel pump without dropping the
> tank as far as I can tell.
Julie in Tampa - 24 Oct 2004 03:30 GMT
Thanks for your help. You did what I'm about to do.
I got the tank empty and will use a floor jack to lower the tank.
I'm still trying to find a pump that is a little stronger than tha one Ford
uses for a replacement. Anybody got any ideas?
Thanks again.

Julie
bomar - 24 Oct 2004 14:46 GMT
So after trying to come up with a convoluted solution to your problem, and
berating those who tried to tell you it was less trouble to do it the right
way, you have finally come to you senses?

> Thanks for your help. You did what I'm about to do.
>  I got the tank empty and will use a floor jack to lower the tank.
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> Julie
Julie in Tampa - 24 Oct 2004 16:58 GMT
No buttmar It's just that I can't find an out-of-tank pump with enough suction
to lift the fuel up to the top of the tank into the supply system. Unless I
want to spend $362 on one and I don't.
I wonder if your always a Dick Head when you answer peoples questions.
Go away.

Julie
Spdloader - 27 Oct 2004 12:22 GMT
lol @ "buttmar".

So, Julie in Tampa, did you get your E350 fixed and running?

Spdloader

> No buttmar It's just that I can't find an out-of-tank pump with enough
> suction
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> Julie
DJ - 27 Oct 2004 16:54 GMT
>lol @ "buttmar".
>
>So, Julie in Tampa, did you get your E350 fixed and running?
>
>Spdloader

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>> I wonder if your always a Dick Head when you answer peoples questions.
>> Go away.

>> Julie

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't "Dick Head" be one word? <G>

DJ
Julie in Tampa - 27 Oct 2004 20:52 GMT
Oddly enough according to "Lexicon Webster's College Dictionary of the English
Language" 2003 Ver.  it can be used both together and separate. I'm sure that
Mister @buttmar ,,,,,,, never mine I won't go there.

Have a Great day.

Julie
Julie in Tampa - 27 Oct 2004 20:39 GMT
Tank is out and will be fixed this weekend.

Thank for asking.

Julie
Rudy - 24 Oct 2004 20:35 GMT
>>  I got the tank empty and will use a floor jack to lower the tank.
>> I'm still trying to find a pump that is a little stronger than tha one
> Ford uses for a replacement. Anybody got any ideas?

For the E350, got one at NAPA for over $ 100.00 cheaper than the one Ford
Dlr wanted me to buy.
Worked fine
Steve Barker - 24 Oct 2004 20:41 GMT
The sending unit is available seperately.  You didn't need to buy a pump to
fix the guage.

s

> The biggest thing is, a new pump is rather expensive, close to $200. I had
> to
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> a
> lot of misc. electrical problems caused by age, not mileage.
 
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