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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / March 2005

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paulmbedard@earthlink.net - 20 Feb 2005 21:09 GMT
I always ran Castrol 20/50 in my old VW beetle, as it works well in the
heat of Georgia...never synthetic, because you change the oil so often,
but I remember reading that as long as a motor oil has that official
seal on the container, it meets the same standards as expensive motor
oils.
A brand new vehicle would warrant the best, and I'd never use that
re-worked cheap stuff, but right now I've got 6 quarts of Valvoline
10/30 ready for my '82 F-100 - this sound okay?
                                                        Paul
itsallgood - 20 Feb 2005 23:08 GMT
That little seal you talking about Paul doesn't mean much in itself.
It's those letters on the seal that do mean something. You might want
to investigate what those letters mean. Generally, if it't new oil in
your old truck, it more than meets the requirement. Then again, you'd
want to use the oil for a gas engine if that's what you still have in
there.
Hairy - 21 Feb 2005 00:56 GMT
> I always ran Castrol 20/50 in my old VW beetle, as it works well in the
> heat of Georgia...never synthetic, because you change the oil so often,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 10/30 ready for my '82 F-100 - this sound okay?
>                                                          Paul

Valvoline is a premium motor oil made from new petroleum stocks. It will
work just as well in your '82 as it does in my new Silverado.
H
Neoacumen - 21 Feb 2005 07:04 GMT
>I always ran Castrol 20/50 in my old VW beetle, as it works well in the
> heat of Georgia...never synthetic, because you change the oil so often,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 10/30 ready for my '82 F-100 - this sound okay?
>                                                         Paul

Just make sure to get the highest letter rating and if I remember right it's
H.  If you find one higher get it.  Some of the lower ones can be considered
"snake oils" because they can actually hurt your engine.  Stay away from
brands like quakerstate and penzoil.  A study showed them as having some of
the highest contaminents.  Valcoline is a good brand and I see that's the
one you got so good for you.
Al Bundy - 21 Feb 2005 16:20 GMT
> >I always ran Castrol 20/50 in my old VW beetle, as it works well in the
> > heat of Georgia...never synthetic, because you change the oil so often,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> the highest contaminents.  Valcoline is a good brand and I see that's the
> one you got so good for you.

I like to look at the back of the bottle of oil in the $1 store. One
brand has a phony looking seal and the words, "MISCIBLE WITH ALL BRANDS
OF OIL." That means you could mix it with any brand, but it sounds
official.
I can't find any Valcoline around my part of the globe.
putt@webtv.net - 21 Feb 2005 17:00 GMT
>6 quarts of Valvoline 10/30 ready for my
> '82 F-100

When I used organic oil, Valvoline was my brand and 10W-40 was on the
can.  I even tried the Valvoline 'blend' oil, but I didn't see it was
worth the $$.  Because of the organics in that 'blend', it still must be
changed every 3K miles.  Change the filter and the oil every 3,000 miles
and your engine will do ok.

Years ago I began using Mobil1 syn oil, along with Wix filters.  Now I
change the Wix filter every 3K miles, top off the crankcase with M1.
The filter gets changed every 3K miles and at the fourth filter, I
change the oil.  Cost-wise it works out about the same, except I don't
have to crawl under to change the oil so frequently.  The M1 syn oil is
better overall than the organic oil, IMO.

Dave S(Texas)
Ernie Sparks - 08 Mar 2005 03:02 GMT
I gave up on those 20/50, 10/40, etc., when I bought my first Mercedes
diesel. The recommended oil for a diesel is 15/40 which is a much higher
quality oil and made for much more abuse than standard oil blends. Don't
know much about the synthetics but they are generally not recommended for
diesels. I now use this higher grade oil in all my vehicles, including a '73
ford F-250 (390 engine) and my 1949 Ford tractor. Wouldn't use anything
else. Check it out.
mcalister - 08 Mar 2005 03:38 GMT
The only difference between SAE 20W-50 and SAE 15W-40 is the
amount of viscosity modifier added to the mix.
SAE viscosity grades have nothing to do with the quality of the oil.

> I gave up on those 20/50, 10/40, etc., when I bought my first Mercedes
> diesel. The recommended oil for a diesel is 15/40 which is a much higher
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> ford F-250 (390 engine) and my 1949 Ford tractor. Wouldn't use anything
> else. Check it out.
theotherBob - 08 Mar 2005 09:49 GMT
Agree completely about the quality of oil.

And who says that synthetics are not generally recommended for diesels. My
daddy's 1992 Dodge Cummins lists oil specs for both standard and synthetic
oil!

> The only difference between SAE 20W-50 and SAE 15W-40 is the
> amount of viscosity modifier added to the mix.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > ford F-250 (390 engine) and my 1949 Ford tractor. Wouldn't use anything
> > else. Check it out.
Ernie Sparks - 14 Mar 2005 01:01 GMT
Not sure upon what you based your answer but you may be right. However,
ordinary 10-40 and 20-50 oil lists API service of either SH/CD or SJ while
15-40 oil lists API service classifications of CI-4, CI-4 Plus, CS-4, CF-4,
DF/SL and SJ. This is service recommended by Catipillar, Cummings,
Mercedes-Benz, etc.
 
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