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Time for Tires '02 F250

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Matt Macchiarolo - 21 Feb 2005 15:41 GMT
Well, driving south on I-75 north of Bay City MI yesterday put me in a mood
for new tires, when I hit that icy patch (at what seemed to be a safe speed
for the weather) and eventually spun out in the median with my wife and 3
kids in the truck. No damage, no one hurt, thank God.  But I could never get
a grip back with the stock OEM Firestones, just kept fishtailing in the
grass until I slowly spun around. They probably have 15,000 miles left on
them but I have decided they must go.

Looking at BFG AT's, I'd like to go a "plus-size," and I know this question
has probably been asked ad nauseum but Google led me to too many different
answers.

Stock size is 265 75R16, would like to go to 285 75R16 or 305 70R16, has
anyone here actually done this without a lift, and what if any contact do
you get? '02 Superduty 4x4, crew cab, shortbed.

TIA

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Michelle P - 21 Feb 2005 16:07 GMT
ice=studs nothing else stands a chance.

>Well, driving south on I-75 north of Bay City MI yesterday put me in a mood
>for new tires, when I hit that icy patch (at what seemed to be a safe speed
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Spdloader - 21 Feb 2005 16:26 GMT
True, nothing is better on ice, but most "studdable" tires are a very soft
compound, and not recommended for everyday use as they don't last very long
under normal conditions.
An all season or even all terrain type tire would be the best choice, and
stay home if possible in icy conditions.

The 285 tire is 20mm  (wider) than your 265 tire, and the sidewall height is
75% of that number. (in a 285/75/16)

The page-link below is a good source for a breakdown of tire sizes and what
they mean, but not exactly a complete answer to your question. I'm not
endorsing the company either, I just knew of the website and thought it
might help.

http://www.talontire.com/glossary.html

Spdloader

> ice=studs nothing else stands a chance.
>
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>>
>>TIA
Matt Macchiarolo - 21 Feb 2005 16:42 GMT
Well, there was no ice in the median. just snow...we got 6" yesterday, and
it had just started getting heavy where I spun.

> True, nothing is better on ice, but most "studdable" tires are a very soft
> compound, and not recommended for everyday use as they don't last very
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>>>TIA
Spdloader - 21 Feb 2005 20:20 GMT
I was responding to Michelle P about the studdable tires on ice.

Good luck man.

Spdloader

> Well, there was no ice in the median. just snow...we got 6" yesterday, and
> it had just started getting heavy where I spun.
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>>>>TIA
Matt Macchiarolo - 21 Feb 2005 16:45 GMT
> The page-link below is a good source for a breakdown of tire sizes and
> what they mean, but not exactly a complete answer to your question. I'm
> not endorsing the company either, I just knew of the website and thought
> it might help.
>
> http://www.talontire.com/glossary.html

Thanks, I already understand the sizing nomenclature, I am looking for
anyone that might have real-world experience on a 285 75R16 or 305 70R16
(which are almost the same daimeter) on a stock-height Superduty F250 4x4.
David M - 22 Feb 2005 05:20 GMT
> Looking at BFG AT's, I'd like to go a "plus-size," and I know this question
> has probably been asked ad nauseum but Google led me to too many different
> answers.

Michelins, bro.  You'll be crying when you buy them, but you will
never cry about them again.

Glad to hear everyone is OK.

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Matt Macchiarolo - 22 Feb 2005 21:48 GMT
I'll check it out. Thanks, Linda basically kept her eyes shut until we
stopped. Sam never stopped playing his Gameboy...that kid has no fear. Once
I got it off the pavement, I was relaxed a little because I knew I wasn't
going to hit anyone, so I just did my best to keep it straight until we
stopped. Had it happened on an overpass, with a concrete barrier and
guardrail, I'd be shopping for a new truck, not just new tires.

> Michelins, bro.  You'll be crying when you buy them, but you will
> never cry about them again.
>
> Glad to hear everyone is OK.
Chris Hill - 22 Feb 2005 13:36 GMT
>Well, driving south on I-75 north of Bay City MI yesterday put me in a mood
>for new tires, when I hit that icy patch (at what seemed to be a safe speed
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>has probably been asked ad nauseum but Google led me to too many different
>answers.\
Don't go bigger; the ps-pump won't be your friend; think it is hard to
turn the wheel with the brakes on now, wait until you do it with a
larger tire.
Matt Macchiarolo - 22 Feb 2005 21:40 GMT
Speaking with experience?

>>Well, driving south on I-75 north of Bay City MI yesterday put me in a
>>mood
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> turn the wheel with the brakes on now, wait until you do it with a
> larger tire.
Matt Mead - 22 Feb 2005 22:42 GMT
>Speaking with experience?
>
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>> turn the wheel with the brakes on now, wait until you do it with a
>> larger tire.

I went with the 285s on my truck with few regrets.  OK, the only
regret is a decrease in gas mileage.

I'm running Pro-Comp A/Ts.  (4 Wheel Parts had a buy 3 get 1 free
promotion I couldn't pass up.)  Don't know how long they will last,
but I'm sure they won't match the factory Firestones.  I do suspect
they will offer superior grip, but so far I can't really back that up.
(Been a very mild winter snow-wise, and they haven't seen enough mud
to matter.)

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
Matt Macchiarolo - 22 Feb 2005 23:59 GMT
I have the V-10 as well. If I was interested in gas mileage, I would have
bought a Ranger.

:-)

> I went with the 285s on my truck with few regrets.  OK, the only
> regret is a decrease in gas mileage.
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> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
Matt Mead - 23 Feb 2005 15:29 GMT
>I have the V-10 as well. If I was interested in gas mileage, I would have
>bought a Ranger.
>
>:-)

Well, yeah, but.......

So far the step up in size hasn't provided any real tangible benefits.
The tires "look" a bit bigger, but they have yet to prove they are any
more capable off road or on.

I've always liked bigger tires, but I'm thinking if I'm going to
suffer a penalty, I should get something for it.  What I should have
done was spend four times the money and popped for a leveling lift,
wider wheels and a set of 315s.

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4 (w/wimpy 285s)
Matt Macchiarolo - 23 Feb 2005 17:19 GMT
What about your extra 10mm of clearance? :-) What I am looking at is the 295
75r16...while it won't look like a monster truck, I should maintain capacity
(the BFG's have the same max load rating as the Firestones, though it is a
load range D) and have much better winter traction.

>>I have the V-10 as well. If I was interested in gas mileage, I would have
>>bought a Ranger.
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> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4 (w/wimpy 285s)
Mellowed - 23 Feb 2005 18:17 GMT
Matt,
It is possible that the Load range D in the 295 size could equal the same
max tire weight as an E in the 265.  Just check it out.  You could be OK.

On another note, I live in the mountains in snow country.  I put REVO's on
my F350 SD CC 4x4.  They are an extremely good tire in snow.  The 295
probably will not give you better traction because of it being a 295.  Look
for a good traction tire first, then select you 295 if you wish.  Some
recommend the Michelin's.  I've always heard good comments about the
Michelin's.  But also check out the Bridgestone REVO's.

> What about your extra 10mm of clearance? :-) What I am looking at is the
> 295 75r16...while it won't look like a monster truck, I should maintain
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>> Matt
>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4 (w/wimpy 285s)
Steve - 24 Feb 2005 04:05 GMT
I love the Revo's! Put a set on my truck and my dad's (beings I work at
Firestone, I got a screaming deal)
The rubber compound of the revo's change as they wear so they grip as well
at the end of there life as the beginning.

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> Matt,
> It is possible that the Load range D in the 295 size could equal the same
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>>> Matt
>>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4 (w/wimpy 285s)
No One - 25 Feb 2005 22:35 GMT
I have an '01 F250 4x4 and will be putting either the Bridgestone REVO's or
the Yokohama Geolanders. I have 265's now and will be getting 285's.

The REVO's are da bomb!!

>>I have the V-10 as well. If I was interested in gas mileage, I would have
>>bought a Ranger.
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> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4 (w/wimpy 285s)
NES - 09 Mar 2005 04:59 GMT
I put the Bridgestone Dueler Revo's on my '93 Bronco.  I'm extremely
pleased with them.  Check them out at www.tirerack.com

NES

>Well, driving south on I-75 north of Bay City MI yesterday put me in a mood
>for new tires, when I hit that icy patch (at what seemed to be a safe speed
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>
>TIA
No One - 10 Mar 2005 22:35 GMT
They're the best. I had them on my 95 GMC Sierra and loved them.

As soon as these Firestone's wear down I'm going shopping for REVO's

>I put the Bridgestone Dueler Revo's on my '93 Bronco.  I'm extremely
> pleased with them.  Check them out at www.tirerack.com
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>>TIA
Stephen - 18 Mar 2005 20:35 GMT
I run BFG AT TAs and I think they are a great tire.  I had fantastic
traction in the snow and I don't have any complaints about any other
conditions.  I only put them on last September so I can't vouch for
tread wear.  They are a lot quieter than I thought they would be on the
highway, quiet enough to have a conversation without yelling.

I recommend them and I would buy them again.

Stephen

> Well, driving south on I-75 north of Bay City MI yesterday put me in a mood
> for new tires, when I hit that icy patch (at what seemed to be a safe speed
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>
> TIA
 
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