Can I safely have the stock two piece drive shaft in my '71 F-100 longbed
converted to a single shaft?

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Peter Arnold - 24 Mar 2005 20:37 GMT
Safe? Probably, when it breaks I doubt that it would injure anyone.
Why would you want to do this?
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>Can I safely have the stock two piece drive shaft in my '71 F-100 longbed
>converted to a single shaft?
lugnut - 24 Mar 2005 21:30 GMT
>Can I safely have the stock two piece drive shaft in my '71 F-100 longbed
>converted to a single shaft?
Before you do that, you should do a bit of research. One of
the factors that determines the maximum RPM of a drive shaft
is the length. That is because the longer the shaft is, the
more critical balance becomes and the more likely it is that
the shaft will "whip" as the RPM increases. This also
influences the torque rating of the shaft and reduces the
critical RPM of the shaft. You can find one calculator for
critical speed here:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/driveshaftspeed.htm
The two section design also safely allows for greater
overall driveline or U joint angles which help reduce joint
failure.
Ernie Sparks - 27 Mar 2005 06:43 GMT
You can probably do this if you increase the driveshaft diameter to about 6
inches with 1/4-inch wall oil pipe.
Tyrone - 27 Mar 2005 17:19 GMT
> You can probably do this if you increase the driveshaft diameter to about 6
> inches with 1/4-inch wall oil pipe.
Yeah Ernie, you must be an automotive engineer or something, more like a
sand lot mechanic. Next thing you will be telling us is to use 4"
diameter pipe and 1/2" wall thickness. And, don't forget to fill that
pipe up with lead or concrete. Why would we expect that you know any
more about driveshafts than you do about quoting, when posting to
newsgroups?
Ernie Sparks - 05 Apr 2005 06:21 GMT
As a matter of fact a mechanical engineer, made a lot of money over the
years designing many different types of machines and equipment ranging from
mining to EPS fabrication, as well as RVs. The laws of physics apply to
everyone and everything, given the same situation. Twisting a long shaft
produces interesting results, especially when a lot of torque is applied at
one end and considerable resistance at the other. It's pinheads like
yourself who don't understand what takes place that gets people killed and
maimed when they refuse to seek sound advice. In driveshafts larger
diameters with hollow interiors are much more sound than solid shafts. I'd
go into the physics of why but I'm sure it would sail far above your
carrot-top hairdo.
Tyrone - 05 Apr 2005 19:24 GMT
Speaking of "Pinheads" Ernie, who are you replying to? How would anyone
know? Have you ever heard of quoting?
> As a matter of fact a mechanical engineer, made a lot of money over the
> years designing many different types of machines and equipment ranging from
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> go into the physics of why but I'm sure it would sail far above your
> carrot-top hairdo.
351CJ - 05 Apr 2005 20:59 GMT
> Speaking of "Pinheads" Ernie, who are you replying to? How would anyone
> know? Have you ever heard of quoting?
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>>go into the physics of why but I'm sure it would sail far above your
>>carrot-top hairdo.
"Pinheads"? Aren't those the people who TOP POST???
Definitions:
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We are fanatic Usenet-readers. As a result we are often annoyed by
people who keep top-posting. This is considered as not good 'Net
etiquette'. The majority of Usenet-users prefer bottom-posting.
In addition to bottom-posting, it is customary to leave out non-relevant
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directly beneath the quoted relevant parts. If you want to know more
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Tyrone - 06 Apr 2005 00:24 GMT
> > Speaking of "Pinheads" Ernie, who are you replying to? How would anyone
> > know? Have you ever heard of quoting?
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> about writing new posts. Check out this site:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Thanks for your post with the links. I generally do not top post,
except when I encounter a newsgroup where most of the participants do,
as in news://alt.trucks.ford.
351CJ - 06 Apr 2005 01:58 GMT
>>"Pinheads"? Aren't those the people who TOP POST???
>>
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> except when I encounter a newsgroup where most of the participants do,
> as in news://alt.trucks.ford.
LOL! No problem...
Mark C. - 09 Apr 2005 09:00 GMT
I top post because I hate having to scroll down every time to see peoples
responses.

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>>>"Pinheads"? Aren't those the people who TOP POST???
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> LOL! No problem...
Ernie Sparks - 07 Apr 2005 03:09 GMT
I use OE and have the courtesy to set my reply settings so they don't repeat
each and every previous post to the thread. This naturally places any of my
posts at the top. If you don't like it then go to another subject.
Jeeze....some people need something to complain about that's why I
occasionally sneak a type in somewhere.
Spdloader - 07 Apr 2005 03:24 GMT
I agree. I hate to scroll past all of the other posts to read what's at the
bottom.
Takes too long, and I'm way to lazy for that.
Spdloader
>I use OE and have the courtesy to set my reply settings so they don't
>repeat
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> Jeeze....some people need something to complain about that's why I
> occasionally sneak a type in somewhere.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 07 Apr 2005 07:15 GMT
>I agree. I hate to scroll past all of the other posts to read what's at the
>bottom.
>
>Takes too long, and I'm way to lazy for that.
>
>Spdloader
That's what trimming your posts is for.. Personally, I could give a
turd if it's on top or bottom, as long as there aren't 4 bazillion
lines of previous thread quoted for a 3 word response.
Hairy - 08 Apr 2005 15:41 GMT
> I use OE and have the courtesy to set my reply settings so they don't repeat
> each and every previous post to the thread. This naturally places any of my
> posts at the top.
You call it "courtesy". I call it laziness. It would be more courteous to
quote the message that you are replying to so that we can get the context of
your reply. I also use OE.
H
Spdloader - 08 Apr 2005 20:57 GMT
In Outlook Express, you are replying to the message that you attach to.
Pretty simple to me.
Spdloader
>> I use OE and have the courtesy to set my reply settings so they don't
> repeat
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> your reply. I also use OE.
> H
Hairy - 09 Apr 2005 03:38 GMT
> In Outlook Express, you are replying to the message that you attach to.
> Pretty simple to me.
>
> Spdloader
Yes, simple for you, since you know who you attached to. Not so simple for
the rest of us.
H
Ernie Sparks - 09 Apr 2005 06:22 GMT
Gee Whiz Jethro....just look at the thread the reply was attached to....
Hairy - 09 Apr 2005 19:34 GMT
> Gee Whiz Jethro....just look at the thread the reply was attached to....
Dufus, looking at the thread doesn't show me which post you are replying to.
H
Tyrone - 09 Apr 2005 19:41 GMT
> Gee Whiz Jethro....just look at the thread the reply was attached to....
Look Jethro, what if the thread is deleted upon exit? Or do you leave a
thread showing 957 entries?
Steve Barker - 30 Mar 2005 04:30 GMT
My local drive shaft place won't make one over 77". I'm with everyone else,
why would you want to change it?
steve
> Can I safely have the stock two piece drive shaft in my '71 F-100 longbed
> converted to a single shaft?
Mark C. - 31 Mar 2005 17:09 GMT
Cause a two piece is a pain in the butt

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I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank
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> My local drive shaft place won't make one over 77". I'm with everyone
> else, why would you want to change it?
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>> Can I safely have the stock two piece drive shaft in my '71 F-100 longbed
>> converted to a single shaft?
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 31 Mar 2005 19:50 GMT
>Cause a two piece is a pain in the butt
How so???
Mark C. - 09 Apr 2005 09:03 GMT
Gotta deal with the extra bearing support and twice the u joints. Seems like
more that could go wrong.

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Mark
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I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank
what?".
>>Cause a two piece is a pain in the butt
>
> How so???