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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / April 2005

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'85 F250 with Meyer plow questions

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Wound Up - 06 Apr 2005 14:38 GMT
Hello Group!

I'm a car guy, who would really appreciate a little truck advice!

I have an opportunity to buy an '85 F250, 460 4v, 4WD ext. cab, 4spd with
4.11s, NM vehicle, with 80k on it, in nice shape from a family member.  It
has a year-old Meyer plow (don't know the details, but new it was $6000
installed).  I know the truck to be in nice shape; it has a new clutch and
slave cylinder and has been taken care of.  It's been used for plowing for
one year.

Since they are very soon moving to AZ, they won't need this vehicle, and are
offering to me for $3000 - with the plow.  They know I've been drooling over
this truck for a few years, being mainly a Ford fan and liking big blocks,
so I've got first dibs.  This would not be a highway cruiser, esp. with
4.11s, no overdrive and gas prices where they are (!).  It would be a
utility and winter vehicle and be used now and again for towing.  I have no
use for the plow, so I'd be selling it, and have no clue where to begin,
there...

Some questions, if ya don't mind....

- taking this at face value, do you think it's a good deal?
- are there dealers I could just go to and sell this plow, and have them
remove it?
- would you think I could get a dealer to pay me $1500 or $2000 for a nice
used Meyer plow?

Many thanks.  I am facing with needing to make a decision about this in the
next 24-48 hours, so any honest input would be greatly appreciated.

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Big Al - 06 Apr 2005 16:09 GMT
> Hello Group!
>
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> Many thanks.  I am facing with needing to make a decision about this in
> the next 24-48 hours, so any honest input would be greatly appreciated.

Do a search on cars.com. http://cars.com/go/index.jsp Lots of Ford trucks to
compare. You know the condition of the truck, if you want it and can use it,
go for it. If gas prices end up where they are headed you might have a
problem if you need to sell it in the future. 460's are not known for
economy:) I would be darned sure you can use it.

About the plow. I would advertise it in the "for sale" newsgroups and small
local newspapers in close areas where it snows. Like Flagstaff, Williams,
White Mountain area, Albuquerque, and so on. You could remove the plow, put
it in the back and deliver it. Too bad it's the wrong time of the year to
sell a plow.

Al # 35
Dave Mundt - 06 Apr 2005 18:18 GMT
    Greetings and Saluations...

>> Hello Group!
>>
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>>
>> - taking this at face value, do you think it's a good deal?

    Even for a truck that is 20 years old, that is not a bad
deal.  If you are not going to be plowing with it, you PROBABLY could
change the differential gears for a more advantageous ratio for not
too much money (Good gears from a junkyard are still good gears).

>> - are there dealers I could just go to and sell this plow, and have them
>> remove it?
>> - would you think I could get a dealer to pay me $1500 or $2000 for a nice
>> used Meyer plow?

      You probably can...but I am not sure that they would give you
that much (I have a great respect for the dealer's ability to buy
for pennies and sell for tens of dollars *smile*).  The cost of
removal WILL be deducted from the amount you get too, I suspect.
    Think about removing the plow, though...If you get enough
snow that it is useful (and I suspect you do, considering it *IS* on
a truck), then, how much time does it take you clear YOUR driveway?
Also, if you are a church member...It would take about 20 minutes
to clear the parking lot at the church, and, would save a couple
hundred dollars (as well as generating good will).
   

>> Many thanks.  I am facing with needing to make a decision about this in
>> the next 24-48 hours, so any honest input would be greatly appreciated.
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>problem if you need to sell it in the future. 460's are not known for
>economy:) I would be darned sure you can use it.

    This is a good point.   Fuel prices are getting to almost
profiteeringly high levels...(amazing how that happened with an oil
man in the white house, isn't it?) and are not likely to go down
soon (at least until the cost pressures us to open up Alaska for
drilling *smile*)
    On the other hand...If your life is such that you need to
carry heavy or large loads on a fairly frequent basis - often enough
that RENTING a truck of appropriate size is too much of a pain in the
butt - then, I would say go ahead and get it.   For that amount, and
since you feel it has been well maintained, it should not be too bad
a deal.
    Also, you MIGHT want to go over to
http://www.thedieselstop.com/ and post to the gasser forum, to see
what those folks think.  It is pretty hardcore over there, and, they
DO have freely available opinons about trucks in general and Fords
in specific.

>About the plow. I would advertise it in the "for sale" newsgroups and small
>local newspapers in close areas where it snows. Like Flagstaff, Williams,
>White Mountain area, Albuquerque, and so on. You could remove the plow, put
>it in the back and deliver it. Too bad it's the wrong time of the year to
>sell a plow.
    Ya, but it is a great time of year to BUY a snowplow *smile*.
Shucks, if I were not halfway across the country, in Tennessee, *I*
would be interested...but, too much hassle to get it here, and, if
the last winter is any indication of future performance, we may never
see enough snow to be fun again
    (I ascribe this to recently acquiring a nice, 1999, F350, with
new tires and 4WD *smile*).
    In any case, it should not be a big issue to pull it off,
and, if it is already removed, that can be a positive selling point.
There is, of course, Ebay, if you would be willing to crate it up
for truck freight.   Put a reserve on it, and remember that the buyer
pays ALL shipping costs (I just paid $40 to a guy to crate up a
Rockwell Hardness Tester for shipping), and you will be ok.  The
freight company will, typically, pick it up at your doorstep so
that should not be a problem either.
    Regards
    Dave Mundt
Kevin Bottorff - 07 Apr 2005 04:23 GMT
> Hello Group!
>
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> in the next 24-48 hours, so any honest input would be greatly
> appreciated.

  I have been watching this and here is my thoughts.  First off it
really doesn`t make since for you. You really aren`t going to be using it
enough to be worth the hassle of getting it home. It is a ok deal not a
great deal. You will maby be 1000 bucks ahead when it is all said and
done and still have a low mph (ala 4.10s) gas hog the rest of the time.  
You will get much more use out of a good small block overdrive 2wd F150
for 99.5% of what you want, and it will get 15 mpg not 9. The resale on
that plow will be ok "IF" you can get it to a snow area in the fall not
now. And more than likely you won`t find a dealer interested in it unless
you almost give it away.  If you have any specific other questions give a
hollar.   KB

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ThunderSnake #9  Warn once, shoot twice
460 in the pkup, 460 on the stand for another pkup
and one in the shed for a fun project to yet be decided on

user@domain.invalid - 08 Apr 2005 07:38 GMT
Interesting I have a 1983 F-250 converted to a flat bed that I get 12.5
MPG if it is pulling a trailer or not. If I had to choose between an
F-150 and a F-250 I would pick the F-250.  With only 80K it is a very
good deal.

>>Hello Group!
>>
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> you almost give it away.  If you have any specific other questions give a
> hollar.   KB
Kevin Bottorff - 08 Apr 2005 16:02 GMT
> Interesting I have a 1983 F-250 converted to a flat bed that I get
> 12.5 MPG if it is pulling a trailer or not. If I had to choose between
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>> find a dealer interested in it unless you almost give it away.  If
>> you have any specific other questions give a hollar.   KB

is yours a 4 wheel drive?? they usually only get 11 mpg at the best and
that is with a manual trany. a 2 wheel drive will get better milage (we
are talking 460 only here) and would be the difference, unless you only
drive 45 mph all the time. fullsize pkups are very speed senceitive to
mpg.  KB

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ThunderSnake #9  Warn once, shoot twice
460 in the pkup, 460 on the stand for another pkup
and one in the shed for a fun project to yet be decided on

user@domain.invalid - 08 Apr 2005 22:49 GMT
>>Interesting I have a 1983 F-250 converted to a flat bed that I get
>>12.5 MPG if it is pulling a trailer or not. If I had to choose between
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> drive 45 mph all the time. fullsize pkups are very speed senceitive to
> mpg.  KB

I am not sure what rearend but it is 2 wheel drive and an automatic  and
I drive it on the highway around 65 to 70 MPH.  If I am pulling a
trailer with 7,000 lbs on it it will drops a little to around 11.5 MPG.
 
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