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Wound Up - 15 Apr 2005 01:41 GMT
After passing on the 85 4WD 4v 460 4 spd. F250 I didn't need, I find myself
ogling newer little Rangers.  Since they are so popular, I would appreciate
any input on the latter years' known issues, years to avoid, etc.  Are the
sixes good?  Are they Mazda engines?  Is the four adequate for light duty?
Do the autos suck?  What issues are there with the 4WD systems?  Others?  I
want a stick four or an auto six.... when I can afford it, I'll be buying a
2001+.  I am on the fence with the 4WD question, since it's used
infrequently....

Muchas gracias

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JohnR66 - 15 Apr 2005 02:47 GMT
> After passing on the 85 4WD 4v 460 4 spd. F250 I didn't need, I find
> myself ogling newer little Rangers.  Since they are so popular, I would
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> Muchas gracias

I had a 91 4cyl 5 spd, a 98 4x4 4.0 5spd and now an 04 4 cyl 5 speed. I can
tell, the 43 (or so) more hp in the 4cyl. made a world of difference. It is
no racer, but it does fine on in the city and on the highway and I'm meeting
the mpg numbers 24/29. The 3.0 V6 will give you some lower end torque, but
gives only 5 more HP over the 4 and fuel eco. dips down to 18 in the city.

My 04 stickered for 16,000 something, but I got it for $11,300 incl. tax &
title (new). It is very basic. Only options were the cloth bucket seats and
AC. If you can find any 04s left on the lots, you can get deep discounts. I
got mine 6 weeks ago. I haul up to 600-700 lbs for my side business and it
does fine for the little trucklet that it is.

Sorry, I can't answer all your other Qs other than no problems with any of
them.

John
Reece Talley - 15 Apr 2005 12:51 GMT
I have an 02 Edge with the 3.0 and a 5 sp. I bought it new for under $13
with tax and Lic.  I had a 94 with a 4 cyl and a 5sp before that. I like my
truck. The ride is much improved and with the 3.0 and the 4:10 gears, I
still get 22 mpg on the highway. Both of my trucks are/were extended cab
models with A/C and premium sound but no other frills.  My son-in-law has a
96 4WD with a 3.0 and a 5sp standard cab. The ride in my truck is a lot
better and the gear box feels tighter.

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Wound Up - 15 Apr 2005 18:08 GMT
>I have an 02 Edge with the 3.0 and a 5 sp. I bought it new for under $13
>with tax and Lic.  I had a 94 with a 4 cyl and a 5sp before that. I like my
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>96 4WD with a 3.0 and a 5sp standard cab. The ride in my truck is a lot
>better and the gear box feels tighter.

Thanks for the input.  I would like the extended cab, but you can get the
standard cabs for so much cheaper... I don't need much else, a/c and -maybe-
cruise...
Wound Up - 15 Apr 2005 18:07 GMT
>> After passing on the 85 4WD 4v 460 4 spd. F250 I didn't need, I find
>> myself ogling newer little Rangers.  Since they are so popular, I would
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> torque, but gives only 5 more HP over the 4 and fuel eco. dips down to 18
> in the city.

Interesting... this is what I was wondering about...

> My 04 stickered for 16,000 something, but I got it for $11,300 incl. tax &
> title (new). It is very basic. Only options were the cloth bucket seats
> and AC. If you can find any 04s left on the lots, you can get deep
> discounts. I got mine 6 weeks ago. I haul up to 600-700 lbs for my side
> business and it does fine for the little trucklet that it is.

Yeah, Tacomas look overpriced compared to newer Rangers.  I new quality
lagged several years ago, but I've heard good things about the new
drivetrains.  I might load it with 1000 lbs from time to time.  I read
they're good for between 1200-1600 (if you want to max them out).  Thanks...

> Sorry, I can't answer all your other Qs other than no problems with any of
> them.
>
> John
!!!!!! %%%%%% - 15 Apr 2005 19:57 GMT
I have  a 2004 Edge package  v- six,  5  speed, flare side. The  bed is
small  but  it looks good, I  get  better mileafge  than my  buddies
with   4wd. I  have  not  had  any  issues with it at all. I  have  been
to the  beach( myrtleBeach SC)  twice.   I  ive  in  west virginia  But
I havent had  any problems . I  curently  have  over  16,000 miles  on
it. The  truck  came  in real  handy  when we moved  last month .  I
would  recommend  a  ranger to  anyone .
TranSurgeon - 15 Apr 2005 13:27 GMT
the 2.9 is excellent

the A4LD transmission is light-duty

but the 2.9 / A4 combo is a joy to drive, good mileage

one thing...86 was the first year for FI, and it will not adapt to altitude
more than about 6000 feet.....our 86 was pretty much useless over 7500 feet

> After passing on the 85 4WD 4v 460 4 spd. F250 I didn't need, I find myself
> ogling newer little Rangers.  Since they are so popular, I would appreciate
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>
> Muchas gracias
Wound Up - 15 Apr 2005 18:10 GMT
> the 2.9 is excellent
>
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> more than about 6000 feet.....our 86 was pretty much useless over 7500
> feet

When I took my 89 Tempo to Santa Fe NM the thing could -barely- get out of
its own way... figure 98 hp and 124 lbs/ft at sea level, new, then load it
up, and subtract 20% from that up there.  Scary!  And I had the "altitude
buzz"!  Thanks for the input.

>> After passing on the 85 4WD 4v 460 4 spd. F250 I didn't need, I find
> myself
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>>
>> Muchas gracias
TranSurgeon - 15 Apr 2005 19:10 GMT
> > the 2.9 is excellent
> >
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> up, and subtract 20% from that up there.  Scary!  And I had the "altitude
> buzz"!  Thanks for the input.

let me tell you, Monarch Pass west of Salida was a bit much ( 11,312 ft), we
were in 2nd with serious thoughts about low

the senior citizen in the motor home, laying on the horn behind, didn't help
Chris - 15 Apr 2005 13:39 GMT
To talk about the 4x2 versus 4x4, I've got a 4x2 that I've had for 7-8
years.  Outside of mud holes which I stay away from (no 4x4ing in my 2x4),
I'm going to mention my experience with winter snow.  Originally having
bought it with the 4x2 to save $$$ I had some issues with snow, but found
the solution to be:
1.  winter time - 5 bags of construction sand always at the back end.
2.  the use of winter tires on standard rims (versus the wider profile rims
the truck has for the summer)

With this setup I don't worry about snow or winter.  The rear-end in the
truck of course is the locker type so there's no messing around with only a
wheel spinning.

Outside of this, there's two special things I keep in the truck in case of
very deep snow or being stuck in a icey snowy parking hole.
1.  traction ?????? - 8"x16" metal grate that you put in front of the tires
and they grab onto.  Will rocket you out of those places you can't even move
from.
2.  tire chains for those remote wilderness places, or back road (dirt
roads) that the plows haven't hit.

Can you do 4x2?  YES.

I've made it all these years on it, and hope to do many more.  Originally it
was $6000 more to get 4x4.  What a savings it has been.

C.

> After passing on the 85 4WD 4v 460 4 spd. F250 I didn't need, I find
> myself ogling newer little Rangers.  Since they are so popular, I would
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>
> Muchas gracias
Wound Up - 15 Apr 2005 18:15 GMT
> To talk about the 4x2 versus 4x4, I've got a 4x2 that I've had for 7-8
> years.  Outside of mud holes which I stay away from (no 4x4ing in my 2x4),
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> truck of course is the locker type so there's no messing around with only
> a wheel spinning.

That diff. would be key.  I would also do the other things you've mentioned,
having seen that to be the typical practice...

> Outside of this, there's two special things I keep in the truck in case of
> very deep snow or being stuck in a icey snowy parking hole.
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> I've made it all these years on it, and hope to do many more.  Originally
> it was $6000 more to get 4x4.  What a savings it has been.

No kidding... that's why I'm on the fence.  Also more hardware to worry
about, more expense to maintain.  We get a decent amount of snow and ice
here, but I figured weight + snow tires and a "posi" differential would be
adequate.  I've seen a lot of 2WD Rangers of various years running around
during the past couple of weeks.  I appreciate you sharing your direct
experiences with them and 2WD in bad weather.  The grate thing is also a
very good idea, I'll have to remember that.  Thanks.

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nutso fasst - 15 Apr 2005 22:52 GMT
'01 std-cab, 2WD, alum 2.3L OHC 4cyl (Mazda), 5sp manual.

Very light, good ground clearance, good traction in rough terrain, even with
stock tires (haven't tried snow yet). Glad NOT to have 4wd. Very spunky
around town on level ground--more acceleration than I need. But lack of low
RPM torque gets annoying at speed on steep grades on highways, where it's
sometimes necessary to downshift into third to keep up with traffic.

22 mpg city-only, 25 mpg mixed (expected better).

The stock vinyl bench seat is uncomfortable (no lateral support), and the
cab is too narrow for 3 adults. Might as well have buckets.

Only 10k miles and air conditioner and windshield washer have crapped out.
Other than that no problems.

nf
Grover C. McCoury III - 15 Apr 2005 22:57 GMT
I bought a 2001 Ranger XLT extended cab 4x4 / 4.0L new and have thus far
been satisfied with the performance. The 4.0L definitely gets the job done.
I have had a couple minor problems(electric mirror switch, loose gear shift
knob) but otherwise no other major issues @ 65K miles. I avg. 18-19 highway
MPG with the 5-speed manual with a 4.10 diff.

De Nada...

Yet another $.02 worth from a proud owner of a 2001 Ford Ranger 4x4 and a
1970 Mach 1 351C @ http://community.webshots.com/album/18644819fHAehGJAjt

> After passing on the 85 4WD 4v 460 4 spd. F250 I didn't need, I find
> myself ogling newer little Rangers.  Since they are so popular, I would
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>
> Muchas gracias
ZombyWoof - 17 Apr 2005 01:55 GMT
>I bought a 2001 Ranger XLT extended cab 4x4 / 4.0L new and have thus far
>been satisfied with the performance. The 4.0L definitely gets the job done.
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>
>De Nada...

Huh, I just bough 2/11/05 a F-150 SXT for $19,200 out the door with a
4.6L V8 and auto.  I get the same milage and it is a helluva a bigger
truck.  

I used to be a S-10 guy, but do not like the new Colorado's at all,
especially the seats.  Would have bought another S-10 if they were
still made.  The price difference between the Ranger and the full-size
F-150 just wasn't enough to make me go with the Ranger.

> Yet another $.02 worth from a proud owner of a 2001 Ford Ranger 4x4 and a
>1970 Mach 1 351C @ http://community.webshots.com/album/18644819fHAehGJAjt
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>>
>> Muchas gracias

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Glen Smith - 24 Apr 2005 11:46 GMT
I have a similar model but it's an 02. I like the truck but there have been
issues that Ford doesn't seem to want to resolve.

I have a water leak somewhere that I can't find, possibly from the rear
window but who knows. The antilock breaks gave me trouble from the start but
they say they work fine. The tires wore out after a year but after some
fighting they finally gave me a new set for free. The engine revs
erratically but that's normal they say. The driver side door hinges are worn
and need replacing but that's going to cost $175.00. And there's lots of
other annoying things too.

As I said, I like the truck but I doubt I'd buy another Ford product again,
mainly due to the poor service. My previous truck was a Mazda 1990 4x4 and
the service from that dealer was fantastic. I really should have bought a
Mazda this time but it's too late now.

Glen Smith

> I bought a 2001 Ranger XLT extended cab 4x4 / 4.0L new and have thus far
> been satisfied with the performance. The 4.0L definitely gets the job done.
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> >
> > Muchas gracias
 
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