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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / July 2005

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Will A Ranger Tow My Trailer?

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Dave Wyman - 11 Jul 2005 05:34 GMT
After 211,123 miles, my Ford Aerostar is giving up the ghost - it's
overheating and the air conditioner has given out.

I use the Aerostar to pull a trailer. The weight of the trailer can go
up to about 1500 pounds.

Will a Ford Ranger with the 6 cylinder, 3.0 engine pull my trailer? (I'm
looking at the XL version, 2WD.)

Thanks,

Dave
TranSurgeon - 11 Jul 2005 13:10 GMT
with a BIG transmission cooler (assuming auto), in 3rd, not OD, at
reasonable speed, with a trailer brake controller, yes

> After 211,123 miles, my Ford Aerostar is giving up the ghost - it's
> overheating and the air conditioner has given out.
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>
> Dave
SnoMan - 11 Jul 2005 18:33 GMT
>with a BIG transmission cooler (assuming auto), in 3rd, not OD, at
>reasonable speed, with a trailer brake controller, yes

For 1500lbs you do not need a BIG tranny cooler like this guy says,
(he has also been telling people to hook up aux coolers incorrectly
and that Detriot has been doing their aux coolers wrong for years) a
small one will work just fine as you can over cool the oil and the
brake controller is debatable too unless you plan to tow in hills or
your state requires it with that load. (some states it is 1000lbs)IF
you get up to 2000lbs with that vehical I would go for trailer brakes
either electric or surge brakes.
TranSurgeon - 11 Jul 2005 18:59 GMT
> >with a BIG transmission cooler (assuming auto), in 3rd, not OD, at
> >reasonable speed, with a trailer brake controller, yes
>
> For 1500lbs you do not need a BIG tranny cooler like this guy says,
> (he has also been telling people to hook up aux coolers incorrectly
> and that Detriot has been doing their aux coolers wrong for years) a

yeah, well, over 250 satisfied customers say my method works just fine

> small one will work just fine as you can over cool the oil and the

you can't 'overcool' it

no way

> brake controller is debatable too unless you plan to tow in hills or
> your state requires it with that load. (some states it is 1000lbs)IF
> you get up to 2000lbs with that vehical I would go for trailer brakes

'surge brakes' ????

is there any end to your utterly idiotic advice ?
Big Al - 11 Jul 2005 22:35 GMT
>> >with a BIG transmission cooler (assuming auto), in 3rd, not OD, at
>> >reasonable speed, with a trailer brake controller, yes
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>
> is there any end to your utterly idiotic advice ?

What are you responding to? Did I miss something or is my news server
screwed up??

Al
SnoMan - 11 Jul 2005 18:33 GMT
>After 211,123 miles, my Ford Aerostar is giving up the ghost -
>it’s
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>
>Dave

It should be okay but I would suggest a 4x4 version as they tend to
have deeper gearing and better cooling too and the 2wd’s are generally
built as lightweight commuters.
Sharky - 12 Jul 2005 00:53 GMT
My 1991 Ranger, 3.0L V6 with 5 speed OD transmission, hauls a 1200lb utility
trailer quite easily.  I've had my 250 Honda ATV on the trailer (500lbs with
trailer) plus my buddies 250 Honda (400lbs by itself) on the bed of my
truck, and the truck hauled it quite easily.  My truck has no tranny cooler
installed and there were no indications of it overheating, burning clutch or
anything else.  Mind you, this is all I ever plan on hauling with it, but it
would probably handle a 1200lb load just as easily.

Sharky
David M - 12 Jul 2005 10:14 GMT
> My 1991 Ranger, 3.0L V6 with 5 speed OD transmission, hauls a 1200lb utility
> trailer quite easily.  I've had my 250 Honda ATV on the trailer (500lbs with
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>
> Sharky

Ummm,  transmission coolers are for AUTOMATIC transmissions.

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Sharky - 13 Jul 2005 02:00 GMT
Where did I indicate that my transmission was automatic in that post?
Because of the fact that my transmission is a 5 speed, it makes it easier to
tow because I can manually select the gear as I need it.  However, I only
haul my trailer every so often, and when I do, it is not very far, so I am
not concerned about damaging my transmission.  Besides, if I need to haul a
larger load, I have a half ton truck geared up for towing as well.

SnoMan, I agree with you, but you'd be suprised how easy that little truck
hauls a large load.  Possibly it may be because of the rear axle gearing,
I'm not sure.  But when I had that load of just under 1000lbs on the truck,
the engine was not struggling for power or lugging up any hills.  For a 3.0L
V6, it sure seems to have a fair amount of torque in the first 3 gears.
Like I said earlier, if I towed with it every day, I would be more concerned
about damage.  But if that were the case, I would have a larger truck more
suited for towing regularly.

Getting back to the original post, depending on the amount of usage of the
trailer, he may want to look at a different truck.  Possibly a 4wd Ranger,
with the 4.0L V6, which are known to have quite a bit more power than the
3.0L, but less reliability.

Sharky
TranSurgeon - 13 Jul 2005 02:04 GMT
> Where did I indicate that my transmission was automatic in that post?
> Because of the fact that my transmission is a 5 speed, it makes it easier to
> tow because I can manually select the gear as I need it.  However, I only
> haul my trailer every so often, and when I do, it is not very far, so I am
> not concerned about damaging my transmission.

be sure you check fluid level EVERY oil change

the manual used in your truck has the shift rails in the top cover, with the
rear openings closed by rubber plugs

the plugs dry up and shrink, the gears throw oil up onto the shift rails, it
runs backand out the holes that are poorly plugged

every manual that comes in here with the 'all I have left is 4th
(straight-thru)' has about a handdful of sludge and gear dust in the bottom
of the case
Sharky - 13 Jul 2005 09:45 GMT
Transurgeon, thanx for the warning.  Unfortunately, I learned about this
problem 3 years ago, just after I bought the truck.  By the time I was
sitting on the highway with the rear output shaft snapped in two, it was too
late.  But that's what happened to it, fluid had not been checked since the
original owner bought it new in 1991.  Up until that point, it had been
leaking out of those 3 rubber plugs that are known to leak.

Sharky
SnoMan - 13 Jul 2005 18:35 GMT
>SnoMan, I agree with you, but you’d be suprised how easy that
>little truck
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>about damage.  But if that were the case, I would have a larger truck
>more suited for towing regularly.

Stick shifts are usually geared deeper (not always) because the lack
the avantage of a torque converter. My wife has a 2000 Cherokee with a
4cyl and 5 speed and it came with a factory 4.10 axle ratio. I have
towed 2000 lbs with it with not much effort and it does surprizing
well with it because of gearing and engines power curve which has good
low speed and mid range torque. I would not want to go cross country
with a lot of long hills to climb with that much weight with it but I
am sure it would hold up as that thing appears well built. 1000 lbs
behind it is no big deal and you can cruise on hiway with that amount
too.  ALso, I would not just check tranny fluid level in the gear box,
I would change it too every 30 or 40 k miles because manual trannies
are often neglected in that regard which can shorten there service
life too.
David M - 13 Jul 2005 23:40 GMT
> Where did I indicate that my transmission was automatic in that post?

You didn't.  That's why I wondered why you thought not
having a cooler was even relevant.

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SnoMan - 12 Jul 2005 21:36 GMT
>My 1991 Ranger, 3.0L V6 with 5 speed OD transmission, hauls a 1200lb
>utility
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>
>Sharky

I am sure it does okay towing the load but a small aux cooler is cheap
insurance because I can promise you that tranny is running warmer
towing and when the oil smells burnt it is to late and it can get warm
enough to shorten life some without burning the oil. With current
setup, when you tow the engine works hard so it make more heat so it
cools tranny fluid a little less because coolant is warmer due to
increased flow and tranny need cooling more because it is getting
warmer to. You do not need to add a big cooler as in your case
something around 5" x 10" or so would work fine. It will extend
tranny life and give you piece of mind because even if engine gets
hot, tranny will stay cooler because with current setup when engine
gets hot, so does tranny.
 
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