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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / August 2005

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2005 Escape Warning

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Craig Shaffer - 23 Jul 2005 08:08 GMT
Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.  I just pray that my
wife is not killed in it.  She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
safer.  We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and by
8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
Relations, and Bill Ford himself.  I resisted buying it, because of all the
nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's.  I took the chance that somehow
they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape.  We were in the turn
lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane.  We
turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light had
changed to green.  We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its side.
What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer, and
you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control.  Thank God the sun
was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road.  Had it
been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side.  This vehicle has no
redeeming qualities.  It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
Unfortunately a Model T  has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't have
to worry about torque steer.  I was so shaken by the experience that I would
not ride home in it.  I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
that death trap again.  My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
back to get me.  I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't be
hurt or killed.  In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew they
cought fire and could explode.  I never felt as insecure about riding in a
car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
Pinto.  After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
living daylights out of me.  As I walked to the back of the vehicle I could
not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
cleared the back of the Escape.  I am greatful that we don't have any young
children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
running child could never see or be seen.  I wrote my state senator asking
for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them to
outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
children.  I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets.   I sent an E-Mail to the
dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
until we can save up enough to trade it.  I'll go to the bank on monday to
get  a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
mile old car back.  You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my wife
is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her.  But
I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it.  If
she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
Donut - 23 Jul 2005 09:20 GMT
<Snip a bunch of crybaby talk>

>is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her.  But
>I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it.  If
>she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
>her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.

So what you are saying is that this is a *very* dangerous vehicle...
And you *can't* stop your wife from driving it.

But you are under the impression that a note to a usenet group will
convince complete strangers, were as you couldn't convince your own
wife, who was driving the vehicle?!

Good luck with that.

Don
JimV - 23 Jul 2005 13:50 GMT
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.  I just pray that my
> bla bla bla

If you look up the NTSA accident statistics on the Escape, you'll find
they are actually quite good. I'm not sure what your problem or real
agenda is.
Matt Macchiarolo - 23 Jul 2005 14:04 GMT
It's an anti-SUV agenda. And poorly directed, since the Escape really isn't
an SUV.

>> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately
>> it
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> they are actually quite good. I'm not sure what your problem or real
> agenda is.
JohnR66 - 23 Jul 2005 14:12 GMT
>> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately
>> it
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> they are actually quite good. I'm not sure what your problem or real
> agenda is.

His agenda is clear. As you pointed out with NTSA, anyone can go get the
facts rather than listen to some moron's drivel...
John
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 23 Jul 2005 14:04 GMT
>Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
>has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.  

If this car is the worst "nightmare" in your life, I'd say you've got
a pretty damned good life.

Did you not DRIVE the car before your wife bought it?  Did you not do
any RESEARCH on the vehicle before it was purchased??  Sounds like you
went into it half-assed and your expectations don't match reality.
Matt Mead - 23 Jul 2005 17:00 GMT
It's kinda like a train wreck.  You know it is going to be ugly, but
you just can't stop watching..... or in this case reading.

And funny too when you think the idiot that wrote it believes somebody
is actually going to believe it.

Troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4

>Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
>has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.  I just pray that my
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
>her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
Spdloader - 24 Jul 2005 00:59 GMT
Sounds like your wife has no driving skills, and you are some kind of a
wuss.

Grow up and troll somewhere else.

Spdloader

> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.  I just pray that my
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> prevent
> her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
Al Bundy - 24 Jul 2005 12:20 GMT
His wife married a big baby and he's also too stupid to test drive
before buying. I suggest he check his wife's purse for his testicles.
No, she deserves them. Just take your name off the checking account.
gw - 25 Jul 2005 15:46 GMT
O/T content snipped...

The Escape is not a truck.  Try alt.vehicles.pretendtrucksforlamers

Oh yeah - You're a pussy. Buy a minivan.
Rick - 26 Jul 2005 11:57 GMT
Damn what an idiot5 07:08:26 GMT, "Craig Shaffer"
<CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
>has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.  I just pray that my
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
>her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
IYM - 26 Jul 2005 13:04 GMT
This guy sounds like he donated his brain to science before he was done
using it....If he were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a
week...

This is an obvious troll - No one could be that much of a pu$$y.....

IYM
GeoffP - 26 Jul 2005 15:29 GMT
> This guy sounds like he donated his brain to science before he was done
> using it....If he were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> IYM

--
Sounds as though he "really" loves his wife. <VBG>
Geoff.
user@domain.invalid - 26 Jul 2005 18:38 GMT
I have to agree with this guy who took a stand on a subject that really
needs work which is auto safely.  There is some real junk on the road
that people have paid big dollars for that are just another form of
coffin. You can call this guy anything you want but I call him very
smart and as far as the wife goes you try and make your wife drive
something safe that she does like the looks of and she will probably be
filling divorce papers.

> This guy sounds like he donated his brain to science before he was done
> using it....If he were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> IYM
Charles Perry - 26 Jul 2005 19:46 GMT
>I have to agree with this guy who took a stand on a subject that really
>needs work which is auto safely.  There is some real junk on the road that
>people have paid big dollars for that are just another form of coffin. You
>can call this guy anything you want but I call him very smart and as far as
>the wife goes you try and make your wife drive something safe that she does
>like the looks of and she will probably be filling divorce papers.

The guy sounds like an idiot, as do you.

I particularly liked the complaint that he couldn't see over the vehicle
when walking beside it, and now wants them banned from school lots.  Well,
you need to ban station wagons and minivans also.  Some children cannot see
over even smaller cars, so those should be banned also.  Thats it, everyone
should have to walk!

Idiots.

Charles Perry P.E.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 27 Jul 2005 06:06 GMT
>I particularly liked the complaint that he couldn't see over the vehicle
>when walking beside it, and now wants them banned from school lots.  Well,
>you need to ban station wagons and minivans also.  Some children cannot see
>over even smaller cars, so those should be banned also.  Thats it, everyone
>should have to walk!

You definitely cannot see over/around my SuperDuty so for this guy to
whine about a friggin' Escape is laughable.  Sounds like buyer's
remorse - a result of somebody not doing their homework...
Spdloader - 26 Jul 2005 22:23 GMT
If you don't like something, then don't buy it.

If you don't like what you're watching, change the channel.

If you don't like the content, don't buy the magazine.

...but don't ever think you have the right to decide what is best for
everyone else, when the only right you really have is to decide what is best
for yourself.

I seriously doubt the OP was forced at gunpoint to buy this vehicle, it was
his choice.

Now go away troll.

Spdloader

>I have to agree with this guy who took a stand on a subject that really
>needs work which is auto safely.  There is some real junk on the road that
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>> IYM
Matt Macchiarolo - 28 Jul 2005 03:33 GMT
Stop supporting your own posts, troll.

>I have to agree with this guy who took a stand on a subject that really
>needs work which is auto safely.  There is some real junk on the road that
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>> IYM
Sharky - 01 Aug 2005 03:32 GMT
This is why you should take the vehicle for a test drive, preferrably
over-night, before you buy it.  Most dealerships in this area will let you
test drive the car for a 24 hour period before you decide whether you want
to purchase it or not.

If you're used to driving small sports cars and expect this SUV to handle
with the same characteristics, you'd better think again.  Do your research
before you buy any vehicle, this is the reason websites like Epinion.com and
people post questions on usenet before they purchase a new vehicle for the
first time.

Sharky
SC Tom - 01 Aug 2005 11:20 GMT
As posted by numerous people in 2 different groups,  it does look like this
dude IS a troll. If not, you'd think he'd have a point-counterpoint with at
least one response to his original post.
   SC Tom
Rudy - 07 Aug 2005 01:01 GMT
My wife and I have both driven our 2002 Escape..not just on level streets
and those dangerous "right turn lanes" but on winding mountain highways.  I
find that on dry pavement the vehicle is capable of taking "slow to 50 MPH"
curves at 60-65 MPH.

Since we seeem to be able to handle this deathtrap, I'm prepared to offer
you $ 10,000.00 to take yours off your hands and save your life.

PS:  You don't have to deliver..we'll pick it up in your driveway.

R
 
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