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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / August 2005

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IYM - 15 Aug 2005 20:12 GMT
Just a quick question -

What is the diameter (size) of the fuel line?   This will be my 2nd trip to
the store and I want to make sure I get the right tool for removal of the
"quick" type connectors they have on there.  The one I got when I was there
is a '4 in one' size that looks like a pair of scissors and says it fits
most Ford fuel and A/C lines....Apparently, my '99 F-150 isn't a "most Ford"
This will be the 3rd attempt at changing this freakin' thing - The first was
being under there and finding I need a special tool, the second finding out
that said special tool is wrong dang tool....3rd times a charm I
hope!...(sorry - just ticked off as this isn't rocket science, ya know?!?
What ever happened to damn spring clips and a pair of pliers? )  :)

Scott
David M - 15 Aug 2005 22:10 GMT
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Get the package of 4 different sized tools.  
That way you'll have the right ones for other types of
lines if you need them.

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Razorblade - 15 Aug 2005 23:18 GMT
Another example of the National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence
or other Auto Technician representative groups having influence with the
automobile manufacturers.  They no longer want ANY components of your
vehicle to be "owner-serviceable" so you are forced to go pay someone $70.00
per hour to do what you are perfectly capable of if you just had the right
damn tool. That is why all the connectors are specialty connectors and
change every couple of years. That is why I got rid of my late model 4x4 and
went and got a 1974 F100 Custom and a 1983 F100 XLT. I can work on 'em
myself and save a hell of alot of money.

Razor

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aarcuda69062 - 16 Aug 2005 01:20 GMT
> Another example of the National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence
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It's all ASE's fault, eh?

Damn, I guess I missed that questionnaire.
Razorblade - 16 Aug 2005 06:26 GMT
Maybe not ASE specifically but there is some sort of back-scratching going
on in the industry. The days of a good shade tree mechanic being able to
work on vehicles are numbered with the way things are progressing. Of course
this is just my opinion and I know what that is worth these days.

> It's all ASE's fault, eh?
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Spdloader - 15 Aug 2005 23:55 GMT
Just so you know,........

......it isn't easy to do even with the correct tool. You will have to
"waller it around a bit".

Spdloader

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Stephen - 16 Aug 2005 01:29 GMT
I just bought that tool for my 99 F150 (XLT 4.6 SC SB 4X4).  It has two
ends, one with 5/16" I.D. and one with 3/8" I.D.  I am almost positive
it was the 5/16 end that I used.  I just looked at it and I think there
are some small scratches on that end.  The tool was around $5 or so and
the filter is cheap.

It should take about 8 minutes the first time you change the filter and
about 4 minutes the next time after you know what you are doing.  Just
have a couple rags handy to catch the small amount of gas that comes out
when you pop the hoses off.

Stephen

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IYM - 16 Aug 2005 12:23 GMT
Thanks - That's the info I needed...

The wrong tool I have looks like a pair of scissors with 1 size at each end,
then if you flip/spin the scissors the other way you get 2 more sizes. I'm
at work now and don't know how small the small size is since I left it home,
but it was still "just" to big.  I have a feeling the small size on that was
3/8", which means the 5/16 should be the right one (which naturally wasn't
on the tool)

I've changed a ton of fuel filters in my life, so I know it will only take
me a few minutes to do once I get the NASA designed quick connects off.
Actually,  what's sad is that my truck has 90K on it and never had
maintenance done at the dealer, but I once had (at about 50K) the oil & gas
filter changed at an quick change place (no - not Jiffy lube!) mostly
because of the dead of winter and the fact that I didn't want to lay on my
back at 10 degrees F, but anyway - When I get under there the other day, the
gas filter is covered in a nice coat of light rust with the Ford logo on it.
Now, what do you think the chances are that place used genuine Ford parts?
Nada...Which means that I paid for something that I didn't get, & I have a
truck with 90K on the gas filter.  Gee, do you think it needs changing??? :)
I went there once due to desperation, but it just proves you get what you
pay for....

Thanks again,

Scott

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Stephen - 16 Aug 2005 17:51 GMT
I've heard the advice given that you should ask for your old parts back
on repairs but not usually for a cheapie part like an oil or gas filter.

The tool I have is also the scissor type with the two sizes I mentioned.
   If I was stuck without the tool, I'd probably just split a piece of
5/16 tube if I had some around but they are easy to get and about the
price of a pint.

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Dave Lee - 16 Aug 2005 02:17 GMT
Just replaced mine, on a '96 5.8. What a difference it made

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Charles - 21 Aug 2005 02:13 GMT
Mine had problems too. Couldn't get it off no matter how hard I tried. Funny
thing was i changed the filter 2 years ago. This time it didn't come off.
Tried everything under the sun. Had to take it to Ford who found the clips
inside had gone bad. Talked to the tech that did the work and he said they
had to gouge them out and then replace the clips inside with new ones. Took
about 2 hours and wasn't that much. Glad I took it to them.

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IYM - 22 Aug 2005 19:53 GMT
Well - just FYI to everyone - Thanks for the help!   Changed it last night
in 5 minutes after getting the right tool and realizing that you actually
more or less slide the fitting onto the tool rather than pushing the tool
into the fitting to release the clips.  $5 tool worked decent....After
sitting and thinking a bit about what I said in a previous post about making
something over complicated like these fittings rather than the old spring
clips,  was that noting where the filter is located that when off roading I
guess debris (branch/stick or the sort) could get caught and yank the fuel
line off the old way, and this most definitely has better retention against
that sort of thing.  Never occurred to me as I don't off road...

Oh well - I guess a reason for everything...

Scott

> Mine had problems too. Couldn't get it off no matter how hard I tried. Funny
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Jim Welfley - 23 Aug 2005 02:03 GMT
Glad you got it off finally, those "quick connects" are made strictly for
fast assembly at the factory and that is it. They are on ac lines, coolant
lines, ps lines, trans lines, etc.   Believe me, I've been a Ford tech for
28 years,
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