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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / August 200579 van_help!
I am at my wit's end. This great old van has been in the shop for over a month. They can't seem to figure it out. It runs when it wants to and stops when it wants to. All the usual stuff has been checked. It is getting the right amount of gas and the gas is clean, etc, filter changed, all that. He said that he was going to check the timing belt and see if it jumped time, that was a week ago. So, I am certain that didn't fix the problem, either. He has a great reputation and i have used him many times. Anyone have any off-the-wall ideas? Anyone have any experience with this particular van? 1979 Ford Club Wagon. Chateau model. Might be a 150? I really don't know, as there is no documentation with it. Supposed to have a Windsor? engine. Runs like a TOP when it runs. Was taken good care of by it's original owner, now deceased. Stick of dynamite is NOT an option. Thanks for any ideas. Pauley... ignition ? does it lose spark ? > I am at my wit's end. This great old van has been in the shop for over a > month. They can't seem to figure it out. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Pauley... I don't know It will just stop. > ignition ? > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >> Pauley... If your mechanic thinks that the 351 Windsor has a timing belt, you need a new mechanic. Fuel Spark Compression It's one of the three. All 3 are pretty easy to test. If the problem is intermittent, it hasn't jumped time. That won't fix itself. He needs to find out if it's starving for fuel, or if it has no spark when it doesn't run. But then, a mechanic would know that.... > I am at my wit's end. This great old van has been in the shop for over a > month. They can't seem to figure it out. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Pauley... He said timing. I added belt;-) I guess they had a chain. > If your mechanic thinks that the 351 Windsor has a timing belt, you need a > new mechanic. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> >> Pauley... listen up: once a timing chain jumps, there's no way it will later re-start and run normally so far, you've provided scant info except that your mechanic seems basically clue-less on this I'm not being harsh here, just realistic > He said timing. I added belt;-) > I guess they had a chain. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >> > >> Pauley... No problem. I understood that part.That it wouldn't do that if it were the timing. I have provided all the info that I have. Seriously. If I knew how to work on it and repair it, I would, so, I guess he and his crew either can't fix it, or don't want to. I am starting to think they don't want to. He has a huge back lot. It's not in the way. So...I guess I should find someone else. Thanks for the help. Pauley... > listen up: > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >> >> >> >> Pauley... Sounds like the control module to me. My wife's 75 Mustang II 302 ci used to cut out for no apparent reason. > No problem. I understood that part.That it wouldn't do that if it were the > timing. [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] >>> >> >>> >> Pauley... Thank you. I'm open to anything at this point. Pauley... > Sounds like the control module to me. My wife's 75 Mustang II 302 ci used > to cut out for no apparent reason. [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] >>>> >> >>>> >> Pauley... first thing is to determine if it has spark when it quits if not, we're 70 % of the way to a solution G > Thank you. I'm open to anything at this point. > [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Pauley... well, he said it hasn't started in over a week. > first thing is to determine if it has spark when it quits > [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Pauley... How am I to know if it has spark when it quits? Pauley... > first thing is to determine if it has spark when it quits > [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Pauley... > How am I to know if it has spark when it quits? Look for spark while the engine is cranking. Did they try replacing the ignition coil? > Pauley... > [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> Pauley... >It runs when it wants to and stops when > it wants to My '81 had similar problem. I replaced the control module, but that wasn't the fix. I finally got fed up with this bad behaviour and started pulling wires. Immediately found the cause......bad crimp on the wire terminals to the coil..... from the factory that made the wiring harness. The terminals had just a few of the wire strands connected. Apparently the crimp machine wasn't set correctly and instead of a tight crimp on the terminals, it mashed it and cut most of the wire- strands. This was the problem for others besides myself. Easy fix for such a frustrating problem. Maybe a fix for you too! Dave S(Texas) Sounds good, but 26 years after it left the factory? This never happened before May of this year, to my knowledge. Anyone else have any other ideas? I am going to copy these things down and give them to the man with my van and see if he has checked these options. Pauley... > >It runs when it wants to and stops when >> it wants to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Dave S(Texas) I would pull the Duraspark module and take it to a parts shop to test it. Have them run the test at least 10 or 15 times to make sure it gets as warm as possible. Or ask your mechanic if he happens to have another ignition module laying around that he can swap out to see if that solves the problem for you. These modules tend to suffer from overheating especially in the summer time and that will cause it to cut out for no apparant reason, then after it cools down a bit, it will fire back up. Not an absolute diagnosis but definitely something I would check. If it is the module, get the Motorcraft Duraspark replacement. Aftermarket ignitions never seem to last. Razor > Sounds good, but 26 years after it left the factory? This never happened > before May of this year, to my knowledge. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Dave S(Texas) He said it hadn't started in about a week, when I talked to him last. Thanks Pauley... >I would pull the Duraspark module and take it to a parts shop to test it. >Have them run the test at least 10 or 15 times to make sure it gets as warm [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>> >>> Dave S(Texas) Still might be worth checking - you never know with those things until it's tested. Razor > He said it hadn't started in about a week, when I talked to him last. > Thanks > Pauley... One more thing. I forgot about it. I had been driving the van every day before it started acting up and all of a sudden it wouldn't start and it backfired and the muffler exploded.(New one) I have no idea if that says anything about it. Just thought I'd toss that in the mix. Thanks again Pauley... > Sounds good, but 26 years after it left the factory? This never happened > before May of this year, to my knowledge. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Dave S(Texas) >I am at my wit's end. This great old van has been in the shop for over a >month. They can't seem to figure it out. Where are you. I have a 79 E250 you can buy real cheap:) Al in Tucson Yeah, just what I need... Pauley...(WAY the hell away from Tucson) >>I am at my wit's end. This great old van has been in the shop for over a >>month. They can't seem to figure it out. > > Where are you. I have a 79 E250 you can buy real cheap:) > > Al in Tucson Well, after being without it for freaking ever, I got a call from the mechanic. It was some burned-out wires somewhere. Thanks y'all! Pauley... > Yeah, just what I need... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Al in Tucson > Well, after being without it for freaking ever, I got a call from the > mechanic. It was some burned-out wires somewhere. Thanks y'all! > > Pauley... That describes the problem pretty well... "some burned out wires somewhere".. If that's all your mechanic could tell you, I hope you only pay him something, sometime. >> Yeah, just what I need... >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> >>> Al in Tucson  SignatureDavid M (dmacchiarolo) http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled T/S 53 sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 25 days 21:56 > > Well, after being without it for freaking ever, I got a call from the > > mechanic. It was some burned-out wires somewhere. Thanks y'all! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If that's all your mechanic could tell you, > I hope you only pay him something, sometime. LMAO > >> Yeah, just what I need... > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > T/S 53 > sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 25 days 21:56
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