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THIS WORKS FOR BETTER MPG

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dwmills - 15 Oct 2005 08:40 GMT
GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
DIDNT BELIEVE BUT THOUGHT WHY NOT TRY IT. NOW I GET 99 MORE MILES OUT
OF A TANK. 30% INCREASE I  COULDNT BELIEVE IT.  THE ENGINE RUNS
SMOOTHER AND THE POWER IS AMAZING. OLD TIMERS WERE DOING THIS FOR THE
PAST 40 YEARS CHECK THE INTERNET THERES INFO ON IT. CLEANS OUT YOUR
ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.
Scott - 15 Oct 2005 16:32 GMT
> GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
> PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
> MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.

Bullshit.  I bet you  have stock in a major acetone manufacturer, though.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 15 Oct 2005 18:13 GMT
>> GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
>> PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Bullshit.  I bet you  have stock in a major acetone manufacturer, though.

1st off DW, STOP FUGGIN' SHOUTING!!!

There may be *SOME* validity to this..

There was a  thread over on alt.motorcycles.sportbikes a couple weeks
back that referred to some web page that had research data from a
study done to determine if acetone did incerase fuel mileage..  

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

I read it and it sounds interesting, but I'm not going to try it on my
vehicle...  Maybe in the wife's car..  hehehe
Chris - 16 Oct 2005 03:27 GMT
Great article. I think i'll try it in the v10. I'll let you know how it
goes.

Chris

Hey kev hows the head holding up and I hope to be out at glamis this turkey
day you gonna be out there.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 17 Oct 2005 00:45 GMT
>Great article. I think i'll try it in the v10. I'll let you know how it
>goes.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Hey kev hows the head holding up and I hope to be out at glamis this turkey
>day you gonna be out there.

Head's holdin' up just fine.  Had some trepidation about really
hammering the throttle over the 1st couple weeks, but am pretty much
back to normal driving.

Won't be at Glamis this Turkey day... (or any other)  Too many people
out on the holiday weekends.  We'll probably go the weekend before to
ride and the weekend after to help pick up garbage left by the idiots
who don't give a damn about keeping the dunes open.
Chris - 17 Oct 2005 22:45 GMT
Yeah we'll be there the week before also.

Chris
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 18 Oct 2005 06:01 GMT
>Yeah we'll be there the week before also.

Where about?  We usually hit up pad 3 or Pad 5 off Gecko road and will
get out there Friday noon-ish...  My lifted white F350 CC 4wd and my
buddies black, non-lifted F350..  32' Weekend Warrior toy hauler (Like
you won't see a bazillion of each out there.  hehhe)
Chris - 20 Oct 2005 03:12 GMT
Not to sure where we'll park but i'll find ya. I'll be on my white YFZ #319
seeya there
Peter Arnold - 15 Oct 2005 20:24 GMT
>GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
>PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
>MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.

Works even better if you have the following:

1) Fuel Magnet to line up the protons is good for 40%

2) K&N Filter  Good for 10%

3) Splitfire type plugs.  Good for 35%

Caution: I did all of the above and my fuel tank overflowed.

--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 15 Oct 2005 22:27 GMT
>>GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
>>PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Caution: I did all of the above and my fuel tank overflowed.

So at 115%, did Exxon start cutting you refund checks too??  (or did
the EPA fines for pissing gasoline all over the place cause you to go
broke?  hehehe)
ToughOldFord - 16 Oct 2005 17:00 GMT
I don't know anything about the Fuel Magnet, but I do know that K&Ns
and Splitfires are a waste of money.
Wrench007 - 16 Oct 2005 17:39 GMT
   Did you know that manure is used for fuel, only there is no benefit of
putting it in your car. Do you really believe that there is some kind of
government conspiracy to sell more gas and less acetone? If this really
worked as a benefit (cleaner air or better mileage), it would be in the gas
already.
   There are usually two sides to every story, but when a "get rich quick"
scheme is involved, in comes the manure. -J

dwmills wrote:
> GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
> PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
> MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.
I. Care - 16 Oct 2005 19:32 GMT
<SNIP>

>     There are usually two sides to every story, but when a "get rich quick"
> scheme is involved, in comes the manure. -J

Who is getting rich quick, and what is the scheme?  People selling
acetone?  It certainly isn't the oil companies selling acetone to add to
their gasoline.

> dwmills wrote:
> > GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
> > PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
> > MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.

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Wrench007 - 17 Oct 2005 04:25 GMT
>Who is getting rich quick, and what is the scheme?

Have you not read the posts?
   The scheme is putting acetone in your gasoline.
A get rich scheme, has a potential of working, it does not always work, so in
this case nobody is getting rich, because it is a pile of manure as I stated
before.

> It certainly isn't the oil companies selling acetone to add to
>their gasoline.
   Why would the oil companies want to SELL acetone to anyone? Won't that
cut into their profit margin? selling something they don't manufacture.
   Why are there all kinds of so called "mileage boosters" for sale in
magazines, auto stores etc.?
Do you think "mileage boosters"  are being sold and ads placed to help the
consumer save gas, or is someone making money?
   Again, Do you really believe that there is some kind of government or
automobile manufacture conspiracy to sell more gasoline by holding back the
use of acetone? If this really worked as a benefit (cleaner air or better
mileage), it would be in the gas already.

><SNIP>
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> > ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
>> > MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.
I. Care - 17 Oct 2005 06:55 GMT
> >Who is getting rich quick, and what is the scheme?
>
> Have you not read the posts?
>     The scheme is putting acetone in your gasoline.

  1.  A systematic plan of action: =3FDid you ever carry out your scheme
of writing a series of sonnets embodying all the great epochs of art?=3F
(Edith Wharton).
  2. A secret or devious plan; a plot. See synonyms at plan.
  3. An orderly combination of related parts: an irrigation scheme with
dams, reservoirs, and channels.
  4. A chart, diagram, or outline of a system or object.

> A get rich scheme, has a potential of working, it does not always work, so in
> this case nobody is getting rich, because it is a pile of manure as I stated
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>     Why would the oil companies want to SELL acetone to anyone? Won't that
> cut into their profit margin? selling something they don't manufacture.

Exactly.  That's what I said, so who's getting rich if, as you said,
it's a get rich scheme.  Doesn't stand up to your get rich statement
does it?

>     Why are there all kinds of so called "mileage boosters" for sale in
> magazines, auto stores etc.?

The people selling mileage boosters make money right?  That's the get
rich part-somebody is getting rich.  The scheme is the systematic plan
of selling the products.

> Do you think "mileage boosters"  are being sold and ads placed to help the
> consumer save gas, or is someone making money?

See above comment.

>     Again, Do you really believe that there is some kind of government or
> automobile manufacture conspiracy to sell more gasoline by holding back the
> use of acetone? If this really worked as a benefit (cleaner air or better
> mileage), it would be in the gas already.

I didn't say acetone was a good thing or that it even works.  I simply
want to know who you think is running a "get rich quick scheme"?  Who is
marketing (selling) acetone for use in fuel to get rich?  It was your
statement that it's a "get rich quick scheme" now back it up.

> ><SNIP>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >> > ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
> >> > MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.

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Wrench007 - 18 Oct 2005 00:07 GMT
Are you trying to act like a wannabe Lawyer with your pulling apart of words
from phrases?

You are not making any sense by contradicting yourself with your answers to
the questions. Maybe you can look that up in the dictionary and post it here
too.
If you are too confused by your own answers to the questions that i posted I
suggest that you get some help with the explanations.
As I said: The scheme does not always work, so then no one would make money.
This would still be labeled a get rich scheme.
Does it matter who is running a get rich scheme? I would say it would be the
manufactures of acetone and the people selling it, all the way down to the
parts mfg. who will be selling more to replace the sensors that the acetone
damaged.

>> >Who is getting rich quick, and what is the scheme?
>>
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>I. Care
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I. Care - 18 Oct 2005 05:11 GMT
> Are you trying to act like a wannabe Lawyer with your pulling apart of words
> from phrases?

Only to point out you don't understand your own words and phrases.

> You are not making any sense by contradicting yourself with your answers to
> the questions. Maybe you can look that up in the dictionary and post it here
> too.

No contradictions, and apparently you are intimidated by real
definitions.

> If you are too confused by your own answers to the questions that i posted I
> suggest that you get some help with the explanations.

Show me where I am confused by my own answers.  You can't
read/understand and you have demonstrated you can't make a logical
explanation with evidence.  Just a lot of bluster when you are caught
making statements you can't back up.

> As I said: The scheme does not always work, so then no one would make money.

Then who is getting rich?  Your statement it's a get rich scheme, not
mine.  You can't point to anyone selling acetone for the purpose of
adding to fuel, so there is no get rich quick scheme.  You contradict
yourself by claiming a get rich scheme then stating it "does not always
work, so then no one would make money".

> This would still be labeled a get rich scheme.

Only by you with no logical proof.

> Does it matter who is running a get rich scheme?

Yes.  If you can't point fingers, name names, show evidence you have no
credibility, in other words an invalid claim.  You haven't shown anyone
has a scheme or is getting rich or trying to get rich by selling acetone
for fuel.  Are the web site posters that advocate trying acetone selling
anything?  NO, they say try it yourself and see, go to your local
hardware store here's what I did, here's how I did it, here's my results
and the results of others.

I would say it would be the
> manufactures of acetone and the people selling it, all the way down to the
> parts mfg. who will be selling more to replace the sensors that the acetone
> damaged.

So it's a conspiracy by acetone and parts mfg's. and sellers?  Show
where an acetone mfg. is promoting acetone for fuel additive.  Show
where the parts mfg. is advocating using acetone in fuel so they can
sell more sensors.  It's your claim you bear the burden of proof.  You
know for a fact sensors are damaged?  Show a scientifically controlled
test from a reputable source.

<SNIP>

You still haven't answered the questions.  Just pulled out some more
paranoid conspiracy B.S. questions and guesses, no answers and no proof
and no evidence.  Can't back up any statement you made about a get rich
scheme.  Can't show any advertisement asking you to buy acetone from
them to put in your fuel.

All you have is someone doing some expirements and posting their results
and asking if you are interested try your own experiment, and you don't
think it's worth your personal effort to try it.  That's your right.

At least some others in the group are willing to try it for themselves
before they become naysayer's and all they are saying is that it
did/didn't work for them during their informal testing.  Are those
informal tests scientifically valid?  I doubt it; but, they did a test
that personally satisfies them.

That being said, do I believe or have any real scientifically controlled
tests or evidence that acetone works or doesn't?  No.

Have I even tried acetone?  No.

Do I advocate using acetone in your fuel? No.

Do I make money or get a bigger check if someone buys acetone or parts?  
No.

So why do I bother posting here about it?  Because it irritates me when
someone makes unequivocal claims, it's a "get rich quick scheme", and
offers no proof, no evidence, no personal tests - nothing proving anyone
is trying to get rich using it or that it's even someone's scheme.  Just
guesses.

Now I've wasted enough time trying to educate you on how to back up your
claim.  Conversation over, dead subject let's move on to more important
things :-).  How about them White Sox?

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user@domain.invalid - 18 Oct 2005 20:04 GMT
The most unimportant topic of all time is Sports ...for the real idiots.
     Some either hits, runs, jumps and whatever and the world goes nuts
which is only because most are NUTS.......  Back to the additive subject
...NO SPORTS HERE......

>>Are you trying to act like a wannabe Lawyer with your pulling apart of words
>>from phrases?
[quoted text clipped - 88 lines]
> claim.  Conversation over, dead subject let's move on to more important
> things :-).  How about them White Sox?
Wrench007 - 19 Oct 2005 01:16 GMT
>The most unimportant topic of all time is Sports ...for the real idiots.
>      Some either hits, runs, jumps and whatever and the world goes nuts
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> claim.  Conversation over, dead subject let's move on to more important
>> things :-).  How about them White Sox?

>>user@domain
Now that's funny :-)

>>I. Care
>>Only to point out you don't understand your own words and phrases.

I am not even going to answer your manure, because I already have and you
don't even know it.
You are now confusing yourself and the issue, please consult some help.

Here is some proof that "fuel saver" are a waste of money.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/auto_technology/1802932.html

Case Closed
I. Care - 19 Oct 2005 05:05 GMT
> >The most unimportant topic of all time is Sports ...for the real idiots.
> >      Some either hits, runs, jumps and whatever and the world goes nuts
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Case Closed

I didn't say anything about "Fuel Saver".  Learn how to read.  Nowhere
did I say that "Fuel Saver" wasn't a get rich quick scheme.  You claimed
using *acetone* was a get rich quick scheme and that was the only item I
addressed.

Need a reminder on what *you* posted?

Subject: Re: THIS WORKS FOR BETTER MPG
From: Wrench007 via CarKB.com <u14318@uwe>
Newsgroups: alt.trucks.ford

>Who is getting rich quick, and what is the scheme?

Have you not read the posts?
   The scheme is putting acetone in your gasoline.
A get rich scheme, has a potential of working, it does not always work,
so in this case nobody is getting rich, because it is a pile of manure
as I stated
before.

I showed you had no evidence, no proof that anyone was *selling* ACETONE
to put in your fuel and no one was even trying to get rich quick putting
acetone in fuel.  

So there is no get rich quick scheme for putting acetone in fuel since
nobody is selling the stuff specifically for adding to your fuel.  There
is only a group of people experimenting with acetone in their fuel and
posting the results they got.

Trying to save face you threw out a truck load of manure claiming it is
most likely the acetone mfg. and parts mfg's.  Again with no evidence or
proof that they are doing that.

Need another reminder?

Subject: Re: THIS WORKS FOR BETTER MPG
From: Wrench007 via CarKB.com <u14318@uwe>
Newsgroups: alt.trucks.ford

<SNIP>

Does it matter who is running a get rich scheme? I would say it would be
the manufactures of acetone and the people selling it, all the way down
to the parts mfg. who will be selling more to replace the sensors that
the acetone damaged.

So you were confusing the issue, or changing it trying to "save face".  
Just read through your own posts where *you* argued ACETONE.

You are right, case closed, slam dunk proved you can't even read your
own posts and didn't even know what you were arguing about.

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Wrench007 - 20 Oct 2005 01:08 GMT
***OMG*** Read what the original post was about in the first place.

THIS WORKS FOR BETTER MPG...Putting Acetone in your Fuel?
Would this be for fun or a FUEL SAVER?
You asked for proof and I gave you some although I do not have to provide any
proof of anything for you.
Either you believe it or you don't.

                                   .......Ok, I should have used the word
COULD be
>Does it matter who is running a get rich scheme? I would say it would be ...

There is no "slam dunk" here, only in your mind....anyway I thought we were
playing baseball? How about them Yankees?

Other than that your post are too long and filled with manure!

>>Show a scientifically controlled test from a reputable source.

>I didn't say anything about "Fuel Saver".  Learn how to read.  Nowhere
>did I say that "Fuel Saver" wasn't a get rich quick scheme.  You claimed
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>You are right, case closed, slam dunk proved you can't even read your
>own posts and didn't even know what you were arguing about.
I. Care - 20 Oct 2005 01:36 GMT
> ***OMG*** Read what the original post was about in the first place.
>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> >You are right, case closed, slam dunk proved you can't even read your
> >own posts and didn't even know what you were arguing about.

Idiot..Idiot..Idiot..Idiot

Still busting tires?
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Wrench007 - 22 Oct 2005 06:53 GMT
>I. Care wrote:
>Idiot..Idiot..Idiot..Idiot
>
>Still busting tires?

Why yes, and I think I left your lug nutzs on loose to match the ones in your
head!
I. Care - 23 Oct 2005 01:26 GMT
> >I. Care wrote:
> >Idiot..Idiot..Idiot..Idiot
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Why yes, and I think I left your lug nutzs on loose to match the ones in your
> head!

Did you misspell nuts on purpose for an interesting emphasis?  If so
that's cute.


One of your previous posts asked me to look at what the original post
was about, do you remember that?

Here it is:
   

From: "Wrench007 via CarKB.com" <u14318@uwe> -
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:08:40 GMT

***OMG*** Read what the original post was about in the first place.

<SNIP>

Here is the original post (OP):

dwmills       Oct 15, 12:40 am    
Newsgroups: alt.trucks.ford
From: dwmills <dwmi...@atlanticbb.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:40:32 -0400
Local: Sat, Oct 15 2005 12:40 am
Subject: THIS WORKS FOR BETTER MPG

GET ACETONE FROM YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE , LOWES ETC.
PUT 2.5 OZ. PER 10 GALLONS OF FUEL  IN TANK. WHEN I HEARD OF THIS I
DIDNT BELIEVE BUT THOUGHT WHY NOT TRY IT. NOW I GET 99 MORE MILES OUT
OF A TANK. 30% INCREASE I  COULDNT BELIEVE IT.  THE ENGINE RUNS
SMOOTHER AND THE POWER IS AMAZING. OLD TIMERS WERE DOING THIS FOR THE
PAST 40 YEARS CHECK THE INTERNET THERES INFO ON IT. CLEANS OUT YOUR
ENGINE WITH NO HARM AT ALL. I BOUGHT A GALLON FOR $17 WHICH LASTS 6
MONTHS FOR ME 2 CARS AND A JEEP.

-----------------------------

Your first posting on this thread was in reply to
ToughOldFord Oct 16, 9:00 am and only mentioned ACETONE, you quoted the
OP and included your opinion and statement "...get rich quick
scheme...." which I questioned.  Nothing in the OP mentioned magnets,
Tornado FuelSaver or anything other than ACETONE in fuel.  So the
benefits or lack-there-of of using ACETONE in fuel was the ONLY topic
you responded to, at least actually written in your post, and that was
the only thing I responded to.  

Sorry I didn't understand you *might* have meant to include other
devices that *have been* demonstrated to be "get rich quick schemes",
but your original posted text on this thread did not mention them
specifically.  :-)
Wrench007 - 23 Oct 2005 08:45 GMT
>> >I. Care wrote:
>Sorry I didn't understand you *might* have meant to include other
>devices that *have been* demonstrated to be "get rich quick schemes",
>but your original posted text on this thread did not mention them
>specifically.  :-)

Yes,
Yes,
And
good point ;-)
 
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