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ebidd@webtv.net - 16 Oct 2005 04:15 GMT

this site :
http://www.pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

i wanted to try it but afraid of eating up internal parts..but this guy
says he tested everyhing and no harm no foul.....i saw guy post in here
about acetone so i put site i had been looking at with definitive
dissertation on acetone up in group here....maybe makes it clearer...
there are guys on ebay selling gas mileage gizmos and info even guy
selling info on acetone use....i hear that some of these things reduce
smog output considerably....i had one called a vitalizer on my vehicle
it really lowered smog output but mileage only 1 mpg better....you'd
think the way computers change every year that same energy could be put
into vehicles for mpg increase.

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I. Care - 16 Oct 2005 06:52 GMT

> this site :
> http://www.pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
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> think the way computers change every year that same energy could be put
> into vehicles for mpg increase.

I know it's not your purpose for posting here, but here is the test
results for the Vitalizer III retrofit device:

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/devices/r99015.pdf

There was apparently an 8.6% increase in emissions.

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ebidd@webtv.net - 16 Oct 2005 10:48 GMT

re vitalizer ..i had vitalizer #1 i guess got it from guy from trade
show selling it from inventor....i had my vehicle before and after on
the smog test mechanics machine and the results were smog way down
across the board with it on car passed, with it off car wouldnt
pass..this was long time ago over 12 years.i looked at Vitalizer- lower
vehicle emissions and increased fuel economy - ORTMAN Enterprises
Address:http://vitalizer.8m.com/ and it looks like same gizmo piece
of flared copper tubing with precious dis-similar metal bar
inside....trade show guy installed it had to test brands of fuel line
hose with ohm meter so no conductivity (napa was best one) and fuel
filter inside carb had to be removed certain specific anti static
installation things were done and distances of line cuts from carb
otherwise it doesn't work right, he knew what he was doing...maybe gov
fudged on install...i don't believe the gov test.....sorry not from what
i saw...if anyone asked me opion on vitalizer if buy one or not i would
recommend to buy it to pass smog and good for older cars to pass.the
mileage improvement is better on small engines 4 cyl guy said got 4 to 6
mpg i had 460 cu inch only 1 mpg more...
the stickers on new cars don't show actual mpg they state much higher
than is reality epa doesn't test right......i have a high mileage carb
site i found i have to see if i posted it in here......

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Al Bundy - 16 Oct 2005 23:06 GMT

You are precisely the type of customer that the trade show "artists"
love to see.

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David M - 17 Oct 2005 00:25 GMT

> You are precisely the type of customer that the trade show "artists"
> love to see.

What more would you expect from a Web TV subscriber?

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johanb - 16 Oct 2005 19:20 GMT

Here are some more tests on magnets, tornado and other crap

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/auto_technology/1802932.html

some are actually funny,

"When smoke started to fill the dyno room, we interrupted the test and
redressed the wires and capacitor blocks more securely. But when one on the
right bank liquefied and dripped onto the manifold, we had flames a good 2
ft. tall, requiring the use of a 20-pound fire extinguisher."

:-))

> > this site :
> > http://www.pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
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> There was apparently an 8.6% increase in emissions.

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