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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / October 2005

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F250 vs. F350

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Steveracer - 17 Oct 2005 04:47 GMT
Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350. Both have
the same hauling capacity according to Ford's brochure. The salesman said
the 350 would pull more until I showed him the spec's. So, what's the
functional difference?
Thanks,
Steven
Agave - 17 Oct 2005 06:31 GMT
The GVW and payload capacity are different.

F250 SRW - 3300 payload / 10000 GVW
F350 SRW - 4400 payload / 11400 GVW
F350 DRW - 5800 payload / 13000 GVW

Look at the brochure carefully though, the maximum payload doesn't mean
you'll also get the maximum GVW.

> Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350. Both have
> the same hauling capacity according to Ford's brochure. The salesman said
> the 350 would pull more until I showed him the spec's. So, what's the
> functional difference?
> Thanks,
> Steven
Steve H - 17 Oct 2005 06:46 GMT
On an RV group, it was said the springs and the badge
Steve

> Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350. Both have
> the same hauling capacity according to Ford's brochure. The salesman said
> the 350 would pull more until I showed him the spec's. So, what's the
> functional difference?
> Thanks,
> Steven
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 17 Oct 2005 07:02 GMT
>Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350. Both have
>the same hauling capacity according to Ford's brochure. The salesman said
>the 350 would pull more until I showed him the spec's. So, what's the
>functional difference?

Gross vehicle weight.  350 can carry more weight in the bed than the
250.  I think my '02 was spec'd at about 4k lbs in the bed for a max
gross of somwhere in the neighborhood of 11,000lbs.  I've carried 2
yards of decomposed granite in my bed on several occasions..
Something like 5,000lbs or so?  No problems whatsoever.
bradtx - 17 Oct 2005 15:10 GMT
Steven,  Told to me by a friend who's a Ford heavy line
mechanic...springs (and badge) if talking about SRW.  No difference in
towing if geared alike...a 250 can actually out pull a 350 if geared
for it.

bradtx
351CJ - 19 Oct 2005 06:27 GMT
> Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350. Both have
> the same hauling capacity according to Ford's brochure. The salesman said
> the 350 would pull more until I showed him the spec's. So, what's the
> functional difference?
> Thanks,
> Steven

Depending on what year you are talking about, as little as the fender badges
& the door tags, that and about $2000.  Some years actually offered
different spring rates, generally they were the same.  For the most part,
the differences are marketing, Not mechanical.  A few years back, the only
distinction was a 4 inch block between the rear springs and axel on the
F-350 and a 2 inch block on the F-250...

Now if you want to see some REAL differences take a look at an F-350 next to
an F-450...
Rudy - 20 Oct 2005 03:52 GMT
>> Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350.
2002 models:  250  GVW 8800,  350  GVW  9900.

The trucks (C/C w PSD )weigh around 7500 lbs, full fuel 2 pax so that leaves
only 1400 lbs box capacity in the 250 but 2400 in the 350.

Given the pin wt of my Cardinal 33RLBW is about 2300 lbs, the 350 is right
on for towing and the 250 is hopelessly over GVW.. by nearly 1000 lbs.

The newer models have "upped' the GVW on each.
TheSnoMan - 20 Oct 2005 11:50 GMT
>>>Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350.
>
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>
> The newer models have "upped' the GVW on each.

This GVW rating is greatly over played because with a PSD truck you
might have 4500 to 5000 lbs on front axle that only has a rating of
around 5k and the stronger rear axle with a rating of 6K of more may
only have 3500lbs on it at rated GVW. Myself I tend take GVW ratings
with a grain of salt in that I watch axle and tire capacity not GVW
rating because that is what can get you in trouble. A 250 will carry the
pin weight just fine and I would not get it a second thought as it has
the same axles, brakes and frame as the 350.

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Joe - 23 Oct 2005 21:16 GMT
>>>>Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350.
>>
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> I would not get it a second thought as it has the same axles, brakes and
> frame as the 350.

I think this is right, but not the same springs. That is the difference,
just springs, and maybe the size of a tire. If you go with a dually, you
also have twice as many sidewalls that gotta flex in response to sideways
forces. That's not an enormous issue, but it's certainly a difference.
Ralph E Lindberg - 24 Oct 2005 13:33 GMT
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> > This GVW rating is greatly over played because with a PSD truck you might
> > have 4500 to 5000 lbs on front axle that only has a rating of around 5k
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> also have twice as many sidewalls that gotta flex in response to sideways
> forces. That's not an enormous issue, but it's certainly a difference.

 My recall is this is true for the 2002 models, but it is NOT true for
all model years. Some model years the front axle is different, as are
the springs

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TheSnoMan - 24 Oct 2005 16:22 GMT
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> all model years. Some model years the front axle is different, as are
> the springs

Springs are easy to fix with adding a leaf to them. On the front axle,
Foord used a D50 in some SD F2500 and generally a D60 in a 350. THe D50
is basically a D60 style housing with D44 gears and bigger axle shafts
and stubs (bigger than a D44) Weight capacity in of little difference
between them. The only issue with them is if you plan a big lift with
big tires, you want the D60, not the D50

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THOR - 19 Oct 2005 14:10 GMT
Spring rates

| Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350. Both have
| the same hauling capacity according to Ford's brochure. The salesman said
| the 350 would pull more until I showed him the spec's. So, what's the
| functional difference?
| Thanks,
| Steven
TheSnoMan - 19 Oct 2005 20:43 GMT
Also the F250 4x4 has a Dana 50 in front and the 350 and Dana 60

> Spring rates
>
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> | Thanks,
> | Steven

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Matt Macchiarolo - 19 Oct 2005 21:31 GMT
I believe the diesel Superdutys have front Dana 60's starting in 2002. I
can't back that up, though, I seem to remember reading it somewhere.

> Also the F250 4x4 has a Dana 50 in front and the 350 and Dana 60
>
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>> | Thanks,
>> | Steven
Matt Mead - 19 Oct 2005 22:17 GMT
That may be, but initially I recall only the dually 350s ran the Dana
60 front.

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4

>I believe the diesel Superdutys have front Dana 60's starting in 2002. I
>can't back that up, though, I seem to remember reading it somewhere.
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>>> | Thanks,
>>> | Steven
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 21 Oct 2005 03:17 GMT
>That may be, but initially I recall only the dually 350s ran the Dana
>60 front.

My '02 SRW SuperDuty (F350) has a Dana 60 up front.
Matt Macchiarolo - 25 Oct 2005 02:27 GMT
You have the V10 right? How did you determine if it is a 60?

>>That may be, but initially I recall only the dually 350s ran the Dana
>>60 front.
>
> My '02 SRW SuperDuty (F350) has a Dana 60 up front.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 25 Oct 2005 05:33 GMT
>You have the V10 right? How did you determine if it is a 60?

says on the build sheet I got when I picked it up.  Verified by the
folks at 4 Wheel Parts when I inquired about regearing to 4.56 gears.
Matt Macchiarolo - 25 Oct 2005 02:28 GMT
Um, never mind, you have a 350...duh

>>That may be, but initially I recall only the dually 350s ran the Dana
>>60 front.
>
> My '02 SRW SuperDuty (F350) has a Dana 60 up front.
carl mciver - 26 Oct 2005 15:01 GMT
| Spring rates

   Nobody has mentioned whether the two versions have the same brakes......
Which is what you really want when stopping a load.
351CJ - 27 Oct 2005 03:21 GMT
> | Spring rates
>
>    Nobody has mentioned whether the two versions have the same
> brakes......
> Which is what you really want when stopping a load.

For which year?  chances are the entire brake assemblies, every single
component are absolutely IDENTICAL.

For Ford F-250's versus F-350's for almost every year from the 70's to
present they share almost everything.  That is with few exceptions, F-250's
and F-350's use the exact same parts for the wheels, brakes, springs,
steering parts, sway bars, axels, frames, engines and transmissions.  The
brake portion of my claim can easily be confirmed by simply asking about
brake parts at your local parts store.

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