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cammanax@aol.com - 03 Mar 2006 05:52 GMT
I have a difficult problem with a ford 460 in a rv converted shuttle
bus. After running dry on oil(dont know why that happened) the oil
pressure is 0 i confirmed that it really has no op. the engine is not
locked up and starts but with no op i dont dare run it. if the oil pump

is really dead its a real bear to get it out of the engine in this
vehicle. this sounds real rube goldberg but is it possible to pump oil
into another place in the engine like where the oil pressure sending
unit is and have it circulate to the critical places? i cant find any
place that shows the oil circulation path in the engine. I could get an

electric pump hook the suction side to the oil pan drain and the
discharge to some other place in the engine?

if anyone knows where i can find a drawing showing the oil circulation
path in this engine please post it.
thanks

mike
Big Al - 03 Mar 2006 06:25 GMT
> I have a difficult problem with a ford 460 in a rv converted shuttle
> bus. After running dry on oil(dont know why that happened) the oil
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>
> mike

Mike,

How did you confirm there is no oil pressure? If you remove the oil presser
sender does oil squirt out if you start it?

You can get oil to the engine but how are you going to get it out of the
pan?

We use a Rube Goldberg system on one of our cars. We have a tank to hold
about 10 quarts of oil. Then we have a oil filter relocation kit. There are
available at most hot rod shops. It replaces the oil filter and has a remote
filter holder and two hoses to connect them. The stock pump pushes oil out
of this adapter, through the filter and back into the engine. We use a fan
belt driven oil pump to pull the oil from the tank and push it through a
filter and into the engine via the adapter that replaces the oil filter. The
stock pump pumps it out of the crankcase and through a filter back into the
tank. It works well but in your case you need to know why there is no oil
pressure.

Al
pkurtz2 - 15 Mar 2006 18:46 GMT
>I have a difficult problem with a ford 460 in a rv converted shuttle
> bus. After running dry on oil(dont know why that happened) the oil
> pressure is 0 i confirmed that it really has no op. the engine is not
> locked up and starts but with no op i dont dare run it.

That sounds like a good idea.

if the oil pump is really dead its a real bear to get it out of the engine
in this
> vehicle. this sounds real rube goldberg but is it possible to pump oil
> into another place in the engine like where the oil pressure sending
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> electric pump hook the suction side to the oil pan drain and the
> discharge to some other place in the engine?

This part would be a no-no. You will pull all the crap that settles in the
bottom of the pan into your engine, especially if you forget to put a filter
in there. Either way it goes, if you plan on going to an external oil pump,
then you have to remove the old oil pump and block off the passage, and then
you can reroute the oil where you want it to pump in at. The oil filter
location is a good place, but then you still have to block off the old oil
pump. You can drill a hole in the side of the pan and put one of them add-on
drain plugs there to get your oil from.

> if anyone knows where i can find a drawing showing the oil circulation
> path in this engine please post it.
> thanks
>
> mike
 
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