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Whats the Smallest truck Best MPG recent years to buy?

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moo@anonamoo.com - 18 Apr 2006 12:28 GMT
I am looking for a small truck for my business.
Rangers were one of my first choices but it looks like
Gasoline will soon hit $3 or more.

I want to find out what truck built between maybe 1985 1998
is the lightest and has the best MPG
2 wheel drive, standard cab, short or standard bed
Has to be automatic I dont drive stick

I dont need to carry a lot of materials because large shipments
of lumber and drywall can be delivered but I will need to carry
some items when the order is small.

If you have a ranger what can you do to improve MPG I was
thinking about a bed cover but what about front end body kits?

One of those subaru brats / mini rancharo elcamino would be nice
but there is no way i could find one.

live in usa  midatlantic states
Al Bundy - 18 Apr 2006 14:00 GMT
You can go to the government site and check all the mileages for
yourself, not that you would achieve those numbers necessarily.
I just want to point out two things. From an overall cost per mile
standpoint, you would be best to avoid things like an old Subaru or
Rancharo because of the parts cost, let alone availability. Your best
bet is something mainstream where the volume base is large, such as the
Ranger.  Secondly, the biggest mileage gain in a small 4 cly. is going
to be if you have the manual transmission rather than automatic.
Knowing that, the decision is up to you whether you can or cannot drive
a stick for physical or spiritual reasons.
I Love Edsels - 18 Apr 2006 16:24 GMT
what would be a spiritual reason for not driving stick?

>Knowing that, the decision is up to you whether you can or cannot drive
>a stick for physical or spiritual reasons.
My Names Nobody - 18 Apr 2006 20:22 GMT
> what would be a spiritual reason for not driving stick?

"Preferring" to drive a slush box over a stick, like preferring brunette
women over blondes or preferring Levies over Lees, It is a spiritual
thing...

>>Knowing that, the decision is up to you whether you can or cannot drive
>>a stick for physical or spiritual reasons.
Al Bundy - 19 Apr 2006 21:39 GMT
" Knowing that, the decision is up to you whether you can or cannot
drive
a stick for physical or spiritual reasons."
He can't hold his rosary or make the sign of the cross with his hand on
the gear shift all the time. Actually, I intended "spiritual" to
include any mental attitude, mind set, orientation or aberration that
locked him into the automatic. For example,  the poster may be dead set
against the manual shift because he feels it's too masculine and macho
for his nature. He needs something soft and smooth, like an automatic,
something that gets the job done without him having to put his hands on
it.
moo@anonamoo.com - 20 Apr 2006 02:06 GMT
or it could be that I find it hard to steer
and WACK IT at the same time

Safety First

>" Knowing that, the decision is up to you whether you can or cannot
> drive
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> something that gets the job done without him having to put his hands on
> it.
Whitelightning - 21 Apr 2006 03:56 GMT
> " Knowing that, the decision is up to you whether you can or cannot
> drive
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> something that gets the job done without him having to put his hands on
> it.

maybe he likes the fact that in the 1/4 mile an auto is faster than a stick?

Whitelightning
SnoMan - 18 Apr 2006 14:18 GMT
>I am looking for a small truck for my business.
>Rangers were one of my first choices but it looks like
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>live in usa  midatlantic states

I know this a a Ford thread but you might look at a Toyota tacoma as
they can get great MPG in 2wd models and they are VERY sturdy too and
well built and have excellant engines for smoothness, drivablity,
power and long life. The Toyota base motor has 16 more HP and 26 more
ft lbs a of torque which is a asset for a work truck and if you get a
V6 in a ranger MPG will suffer. WHile the Toyota is EPA MPG rated less
than Ford, you will likely get it and more with it and less with Ford
because Ford like GM and Dodge uses specail hand built and tuned
vehicles for EPA tests (a loop hole is test law lets them) while
Toyota uses regular production models in tests.
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Advocate - 18 Apr 2006 15:36 GMT
> I dont need to carry a lot of materials because large shipments
> of lumber and drywall can be delivered but I will need to carry
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> One of those subaru brats / mini rancharo elcamino would be nice
> but there is no way i could find one.

If the carrying capacity of a subaru brat is sufficent for your needs, I'd
suggest you consider a car for your hauling needs. A Ford Crown Victoria
will carry much more than a Brat, is many times more comfortable
(comfortably seating five or six people) and will easily out perform the
underpowered Subaru. The Crown Vic is known for its remarkabable reliability
and longevity...Cab companies report getting 400,000 trouble free miles from
these vehicles. The 4.6L V8 gets excellent mileage, better than any 4
cylinder pickup.
Jim Tiberio - 18 Apr 2006 19:50 GMT
> I am looking for a small truck for my business.
> Rangers were one of my first choices but it looks like
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> live in usa  midatlantic states

There are two brats on Ebay right now, one automatic and both on the East
Coast, plenty of El Caminos and Rancheros too.  The Rancheros seem to old
though.
Whitelightning - 18 Apr 2006 20:21 GMT
> There are two brats on Ebay right now, one automatic and both on the East
> Coast, plenty of El Caminos and Rancheros too.  The Rancheros seem to old
> though.

any ranchero is going to be 30 years old minimum because '77 was the last
year.

Whitelightning
My Names Nobody - 19 Apr 2006 06:32 GMT
>> There are two brats on Ebay right now, one automatic and both on the East
>> Coast, plenty of El Caminos and Rancheros too.  The Rancheros seem to old
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Whitelightning

I pretty sure 1979 was the last model year for the US Ford Ranchero...

1977-1979
With the Torino ending production after 1976, the Ranchero needed a new
platform. This was found in the somewhat unlikely guise of the Ford
Thunderbird personal luxury coupe, which was undergoing a reincarnation that
year also, and sharing features with that year's Ford LTD II full-size car.
The same three models available since '68 were still offered, and the
Ranchero could be ordered in quite luxurious form. Engines fitted went up to
the 400 in³ (6.6 L), a small-block despite its greater cubic capacity than
some big-blocks.

Production ceased in 1979. Cars were getting smaller, and the increasing
restrictions on a car-based pickup truck made such a vehicle less and less
attractive. Meanwhile, light trucks had to meet much less stringent
requirements for emissions and fuel economy. Ford saw the way the market was
going and decided that light truck sized pickups were the way ahead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranchero
Joe - 21 Apr 2006 01:59 GMT
>>> There are two brats on Ebay right now, one automatic and both on the
>>> East
>>> Coast, plenty of El Caminos and Rancheros too.  The Rancheros seem to
>>> old
>>> though.

You boys need to get off this stupid el ranchero subject. This is a thread
about finding a late model truck that gets decent gas mileage.  You should
be able to appreciate that it's worth discussing - It's back over $3 a
gallon!
moo@anonamoo.com - 19 Apr 2006 12:16 GMT
Yes i saw the two Brats on Ebay and one of them is almost in driving
distance but i think the owner said it needs a head  or headgasket and
exhaust which means i cant realy drive it home

Also I saw on the EPA site that the Ranger / other small 2wd auto 4cyls
actualy get better milage then the brat

I think its because the Brat is a 1.8 -  4cyl and 4wd

Unfortunately buying a crownvic is not an option
I need to be able to carry 2x4 lumber, cabinets and other items

That does make me wonder though what the weight ratio is that a large car
like a crown vic would get better milage then a ranger.

Crown Vic Base Weight 3817 LBS
Ranger Base Weight  4800 lbs

I wouldnt think a ranger should weigh a thousand pounds more then a crown
vic

Rangers have small cabs and front ends and have the truck bed that is about
2/3rds the size of the vehicle

Guess it must be the weight of the springs

>> I am looking for a small truck for my business.
>> Rangers were one of my first choices but it looks like
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Coast, plenty of El Caminos and Rancheros too.  The Rancheros seem to old
> though.
Rowbotth - 19 Apr 2006 15:12 GMT
The mileage difference is probably related to how much tin has to push
against air to move the vehicle.  (You can run faster with a 4 X 8 sheet
of plywood pointed edge against the wind than if you hold the thing so
that you have the side against the wind...  less energy required.)

H.

> Yes i saw the two Brats on Ebay and one of them is almost in driving
> distance but i think the owner said it needs a head  or headgasket and
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> > Coast, plenty of El Caminos and Rancheros too.  The Rancheros seem to old
> > though.
moo@anonamoo.com - 20 Apr 2006 02:06 GMT
Yea

the standard 80s monte carlo vs the SS with the aerodynamic nose
ss gets 5mpg better then the standard

Also EPA test results are on a dyno and not real world

> The mileage difference is probably related to how much tin has to push
> against air to move the vehicle.  (You can run faster with a 4 X 8 sheet
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
>> > old
>> > though.
IYM - 20 Apr 2006 12:25 GMT
Come on, get to the real reason some people choose auto...It's hard to start
out from a light or drive in rush hour traffic trying to shift and hold your
coffee in the morning!! :)

Scott

> Yea
>
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
> >> > old
> >> > though.
David M - 20 Apr 2006 10:27 GMT
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:26:11 -0400, moo rearranged some electrons to form:

> Ranger Base Weight  4800 lbs

That can't be right.  I think you are quoting the GVWR.

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Joe - 21 Apr 2006 02:00 GMT
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:26:11 -0400, moo rearranged some electrons to form:
>
>> Ranger Base Weight  4800 lbs
>
> That can't be right.  I think you are quoting the GVWR.

I agree. Empty Rangers don't weigh anywhere near that.
miles - 21 Apr 2006 03:57 GMT
>> On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:26:11 -0400, moo rearranged some electrons to form:
>>
>>> Ranger Base Weight  4800 lbs
>> That can't be right.  I think you are quoting the GVWR.
>>
> I agree. Empty Rangers don't weigh anywhere near that.

According to Edmunds the curb weight of a 2dr Standard Cab Ranger is
3028lbs and the GVWR is 4380lbs.

The Supercab 4x4 Ranger's curb weight is 3705lbs with GVWR of 5000lbs.
miles - 21 Apr 2006 04:10 GMT
>>> On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:26:11 -0400, moo rearranged some electrons to
>>> form:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> The Supercab 4x4 Ranger's curb weight is 3705lbs with GVWR of 5000lbs.

2006 Ranger that is!
moo@anonamoo.com - 22 Apr 2006 00:29 GMT
sorry i dont have the link anymore but i think it was a 98
but still it shouldnt be that high

I just want to find the smallest short cab short bed truck
you know that is in general circulation in the USA not  in
the tight streets of europe or japan.

>>>> On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:26:11 -0400, moo rearranged some electrons to
>>>> form:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> 2006 Ranger that is!
Joe - 05 May 2006 05:53 GMT
> sorry i dont have the link anymore but i think it was a 98
> but still it shouldnt be that high
>
> I just want to find the smallest short cab short bed truck
> you know that is in general circulation in the USA not  in
> the tight streets of europe or japan.

How about the D21 or "hardbody" Nissan trucks? When did they stop making
those?  I see a few of those around in a 4-cyl, 5-speed, 2wd layout.  They
get about 25 - 30 mpg.
Whitelightning - 21 Apr 2006 03:59 GMT
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:26:11 -0400, moo rearranged some electrons to form:
>
> > Ranger Base Weight  4800 lbs
>
> That can't be right.  I think you are quoting the GVWR.

Yeah he is off a bit, base weight 2002 ford ranger regular cab 4x2 is 2,988
pounds, the GVWR is 4,760 pounds.

Whitelightning
I. Care - 20 Apr 2006 03:04 GMT
> I am looking for a small truck for my business.
> Rangers were one of my first choices but it looks like
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> live in usa  midatlantic states

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