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Air compressor question, nothing to do with Ford trucks

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Joe S. - 19 Aug 2006 21:52 GMT
This question is not related to Ford trucks but I have had good luck
receiving excellent answers on this NG so I figured, what the hell.

First, a rant.  I must admit to being very pissed off and to having knocked
back several cold longnecks.  I work back stockroom for a major retailer
(NOT Wal-f.cking-Mart).   I clock in at 0400; the truck crew unloads the
overnight truck and pushes merchandise to the floor or to us to backstock.
When we arrive, 45 - 50 internal orders have been generated by yesterday's
sales and we are timed as to how long it takes us to complete these.  We are
expected to have them completed by 0800 at which time we start shelving the
backstock coming off the truck, then, we shelve the backstock coming from
the floor.  As with all retail work, the company keeps everyone under 40
hours a week and pushes us hard to meet timelines and get the hell out of
there so we don't run up the payroll.  This is a new store, open only four
weeks.  Every goddam Saturday since we opened, the genius MBA who runs the
store has let 2/3 of the backroom crew have Saturday and Sunday off -- so,
we arrive at 0400 Saturday morning to find a 2500-piece truck (1700 is
normal) with 1/3 of the people to work it and he expects us to meet the same
timelines.  We did it but I am exhausted -- I am the only man (and I'm 62)
on the crew and the women call me to haul heavy sh.t up the ladder.
HOWEVER -- the District Manager did a walk through this morning about five
minutes after I had skinned up my shin on the forklift and he asked cheerily
"How's it going?" to which I replied "Not worth a goddam."  He asked for
details and he got the details after which he and the store manager
immediately adjourned to the SM's office.  Guess I won't have a job Monday
but, damn, if felt good.

End of rant.  Here's the question.

I am looking for a REAL air compressor that runs on 12VDC and that has REAL
AMERICAN QUICK RELEASE FITTINGS.

Not this POS:
http://www.airzonetents.com/tornado1.jpg

And not one of the 12VDC "inflators" that Sears, Wal-f.cking-Mart,
Auto-Zone, O'Reilly's, and similar places sell.

I want a small, 12VDC air compressor that HAS REAL AMERICAN QUICK RELEASE
FITTINGS -- not the Chinese metric size quick release fittings found on the
POS that I have now.

I want to be able to attach a REAL air chuck to the hose.  Every 12VDC
compressor I have found so far has either:
1.  A brass coupling permanently attached to the hose -- it threads onto the
valve stem -- OR
2.  A quick-release fitting with a lever-type clamp permanently attached to
the air hose.

I don't need a zillion CFM at 200 PSI -- just enough to inflate a tire but I
want to be able to put a REAL TIRE CHUCK on the end of the hose.

Thanks for listening.
Dave Lee - 20 Aug 2006 01:28 GMT
> This question is not related to Ford trucks but I have had good luck
> receiving excellent answers on this NG so I figured, what the hell.
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
> Thanks for listening.

Forget the compressor, have another long neck. I am!!
Scott - 20 Aug 2006 04:36 GMT
>> This question is not related to Ford trucks but I have had good luck
>> receiving excellent answers on this NG so I figured, what the hell.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> This is a new store, open only four weeks.  Every goddam Saturday since
>> we opened, the genius MBA who runs the store

snip

We have a handful of those worthless, educated shitheads where I work.
They have been there for 4-5 years and still haven't learned sh.t.
You do a job, then next year you have similar work to do, and these dipshits
forget how long everything took.

But they are friggin geniuses, in their own minds. :)

Educate them for six years, without them ever holding a real job,
and you are just about sure to end up with a friggin educated idiot.

I would split a cold pack with you if I could.
djdave - 20 Aug 2006 04:30 GMT
First off, I hope you find a better job. When a door shuts, another
opens.
Secondly, more bad news.
You wont find a good 12v. air compressor, what you can do is look into
under the hood belt driven compressors, they are extremely reliable.
I work on fire equipment, and have been around alot of compressors. I
have replaced 2 on board 12v. air compressors, on the same vehicle.
These units keep the air up on firetrucks (for the brakes, horns,
pumps, and even windshield wipers) when they are idle in the station.
Lastly, I replaced the 12v. units prone to failing with a 120v.AC
unit. Its been holding strong ever since.

12v. DC is in my opinion the worst supply of air. You want to fill a
tire, go get a lil pancake compressor for 150 bux and extension cords.
You can even run it at the house, unplug, go to the flat tire, and
inflate the tire with the pressure in the tank. And the thing takes up
a lil more room than a milk crate.

Personally, I have a small electric 120v compressor, a converted freon
tank with quick connects for garden tractor tires, and for when I have
to inflate a fire truck tire on he side of the highway, I keep 6 SCOTT
breathing air packs (fire dept. equipment) ea. charged at 3000 psi.

Sorry, edited your post to exclude the curses.

>This question is not related to Ford trucks but I have had good luck
>receiving excellent answers on this NG so I figured, what the hell.
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
>Thanks for listening.
woodee - 20 Aug 2006 11:32 GMT
along these lines, I have seen a second hand airconditioning compressor
connected to an air tank under the vehicle. When you want to use it, or
more appropriately not long before you want to use it you hit the switch
that brings in the electric clutch (fitted to probably all aircon
compressors) and the compressor starts. You could get technical and get
a pressure switch fitted to your tank to switch the compressor on and
off automatically. Then you have a standard nozzle fitted to the outside
of the vehicle somewhere and carry the hose in the trunk. A bit fiddly
as you need to mount the compressor and add a fan belt, especially on a
new-ish truck where anything new would have to be shoe-horned in, but
better than anything you could buy 12V.

Darren

> First off, I hope you find a better job. When a door shuts, another
> opens.
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>>
>> Thanks for listening.
Whitelightning - 20 Aug 2006 16:38 GMT
> along these lines, I have seen a second hand airconditioning compressor
> connected to an air tank under the vehicle. When you want to use it, or
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>
> Darren

The best ac compressors to use for this are the old Chrysler 2 cylinder
compressors,
They have an oil sump and an oil pump to lubricate the bearings, wrist pins
and piston rings.  This was a hot set up back in the 70's on 4X4s, using a
"hobs" pressure switch to cut the compressor on and off, and an 8" diameter
pipe bumper on the rear of the truck became the compressor tank.
There is no decent 12 volt compressor out there on the general market.

Whitelightning
klutz - 20 Aug 2006 19:41 GMT
You might think about an inverter under the hood to convert 12VDC to 120VAC
and using a small 120VAC compressor.  Hell, that way you could run all sorts
of other stuff to keep you entertained while you're waiting for the tire to
inflate - maybe even a small fridge to keep the beer cool..

>> along these lines, I have seen a second hand airconditioning compressor
>> connected to an air tank under the vehicle. When you want to use it, or
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>
> Whitelightning
Big Al - 21 Aug 2006 16:25 GMT
> This question is not related to Ford trucks but I have had good luck
> receiving excellent answers on this NG so I figured, what the hell.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> 2.  A quick-release fitting with a lever-type clamp permanently attached to
> the air hose.

Keep looking. You can find decent 12 volt compressors. Don't have the time
right now but I have a catalog with some. I'll try to get back here later
today with the info. BTW: Bought a compressor like the one in the link at
Pep Boys. Had to have the first two replaced. One had a bad connection and
was missing some parts, the other was a dead short. But the third one works
well.

Al
Big Al - 23 Aug 2006 15:40 GMT
Let me ask, what are you going to use this compressor for? I found the one I
told you about, it's over $400! I could get along a long time with a lower
cost unit.

Al
 
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