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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / September 2006

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David Schierholz - 08 Sep 2006 13:06 GMT
My question, is it as easy as working on an F250?

The story-  My current vehicle is a 1978 Chevy C-20 that I bought in
1995 or so.  Married, child, and I was a mechanic before my current
life.  My thought is to buy a used, high miles Excursion since it is
built on the F250 chassis and pickup trucks are easier to work on.

It will be a weekend vehicle.  How closely does the Excursion really
track to the F250?

David
Bob Statkus - 08 Sep 2006 21:38 GMT
I think it's as easy as Super Duty to work on.

The trucks are very close-the biggest exception is the suspension.
The springs are softer and the rears are on blocks to level the truck front
to rear.
Ford softened the springs for the ride and the truck gets steered by the
rear wheels when you hit bumps w/one rear wheel.
I switched out the springs w/F250 springs on mine, the ride is harder but
the truck tracks much better and helps when I pull a trailer.

doubletriggers
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 09 Sep 2006 22:17 GMT
>My question, is it as easy as working on an F250?
>
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>It will be a weekend vehicle.  How closely does the Excursion really
>track to the F250?

Both are built in the same plant and other than some suspension
changes for the soccer mom crowd the chassis is identical.
David Schierholz - 10 Sep 2006 20:57 GMT
Thank you both.  I think I'm a little closer to the soccer mom crowd
most days that that '78 C-20 with the 454 that went knocking around
the country fifteen years ago.  Where did my youth go?

My first car was a '72 Country Squire.  100 MPH in Nevada, and just
cruised down from the Oregon border to Winemuca.  Ain't gonna see that
again.

I'll look for high mile Texas Excursion next summer, do the tranny and
the u-joints.  Maybe get the last year of the 7.3 liter diesel and
leave it alone.

David

>>My question, is it as easy as working on an F250?
>>
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>Both are built in the same plant and other than some suspension
>changes for the soccer mom crowd the chassis is identical.
GreenGas - 21 Sep 2006 02:59 GMT
> Thank you both.  I think I'm a little closer to the soccer mom crowd
> most days that that '78 C-20 with the 454 that went knocking around
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> David

OK, I simply don't know, so I'll ask - why are all the Excursions in Texas?
And while I'm asking, 'cause I want one too, can someone tell me what kind
of mileage they're getting with the Gasoline V8's and V10's? I'm getting
reports of 20 MPG with the 7.3 Diesel (and I'm liking those numbers!).
This thing weighs upwards of 6000 lbs, right?
Thanks,
Steve
Matt Macchiarolo - 21 Sep 2006 20:24 GMT
Diesels weight over 7,000 pounds. You will be assessed a Class 2 toll on the
turnpike. :-( In reality you'll probably see 16-18 mpg in mixed driving, 20
mpg on the highway if you keep it under 70.

My V10 F250 Crew Cab gets 11-12 mpg if I baby it.

When I lived in Dallas about 13 years ago, the GMC Suburban was called the
"National Car of Texas." It's a size thing, I guess. The Excursion probably
took over that honor, but now that it's kaput we'll see.

> OK, I simply don't know, so I'll ask - why are all the Excursions in
> Texas? And while I'm asking, 'cause I want one too, can someone tell me
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> Thanks,
> Steve
GreenGas - 22 Sep 2006 03:22 GMT
Matt, thanks for the clarification of the weight. I'm amazed - I have a 5400
lb Isuzu Trooper w/ a 3.5l gas engine that, at best, gets 16 mpg.
A 7000+ lb (diesel) truck getting over 20 mpg is awesome - if I could just
convince my better half that this is the way to go, I'm there.
I guess I wont be going with the V10. My brother, who lives in Texas, has
two Suburbans. I think you're right.
r/
Steve

> Diesels weight over 7,000 pounds. You will be assessed a Class 2 toll on
> the turnpike. :-( In reality you'll probably see 16-18 mpg in mixed
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>> Thanks,
>> Steve
Matt Macchiarolo - 22 Sep 2006 03:41 GMT
If you can afford the $5K upcharge for the diesel engine, and you need it
for towing/hauling, go for it. I never heard anyone say "I wish this engine
made less low-end torque."

However right now in my area diesel costs more than gas, so the some of the
fuel mileage savings are cancelled by the additional per gallon cost.

BTW I just listed my F-250 on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270032157268

> Matt, thanks for the clarification of the weight. I'm amazed - I have a
> 5400 lb Isuzu Trooper w/ a 3.5l gas engine that, at best, gets 16 mpg.
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>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve
 
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