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Fuel Tank Size and running out of fule?

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rvfulltime - 16 Sep 2006 02:23 GMT
I've got a 2005 F350 diesel long bed with a 38 gallon fuel tank
and 37,000 miles.

Yesterday I encountered a situation where the engine started
acting like it was running out of fuel.  I was pulling my 13,000
pound 5th wheel trailer over highway US-70 between Roswell
and Alamogordo, New Mexico, starting the day in Caynon,
Texas.  I frquently will drive until the low fuel light comes on,
whereupon I will fill the tank full with 30 to 31 gallons of diesel.
So a couple of miles after I cross over the top of the pass the
Low Fuel light comes one.  I think to myself, fine, I've got 7 - 8
gallons left, 35 miles to my destination with a elevation drop
of 3000 feet.  No problem.  I usually get 10mpg pulling the
trailer on flat ground.  Coasting down the pass could be
better than 20.

I get to 15 miles from my destination, within 200 yards of the
bottom of the pass, and the engine starts to act like its out
of fuel.  I ignore it for 30 seconds and then it does it again.
So I start to be real concerned, find the closest parking
place, drop off the trailer, and drive 1 mile back to buy
some diesel.  Turns out, I could only put 33 gallons in the
tank.

So what was happening here?  Was I really just about out
of fuel?  Or was the fuel pump sucking air because I was
going down hill?  Most of the pass was about a 5 to 6 per
cent grade but the last 2 - 3 miles was probably a 2% grade.
Is the tank not really 38 gallons?  The most I've ever put in
was 32.5 gallons.  I suspect that driving down hill was the
problem and that if I just continued on to my destination, I
would have made it no problem.

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SnoMan - 16 Sep 2006 03:05 GMT
>So what was happening here?  Was I really just about out
>of fuel?  Or was the fuel pump sucking air because I was
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>problem and that if I just continued on to my destination, I
>would have made it no problem.

It was likely sucking air going down hill as fuel sloushed forward in
the long tank mounted on frame rails.. The pickup are generall
loacated aft of center to feed well when tank is low on acceleration.
The moral here is do not run it so low on hills and do not wait for
the light to come on.
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rvfulltime - 16 Sep 2006 05:40 GMT
>>So what was happening here?  Was I really just about out
>>of fuel?  Or was the fuel pump sucking air because I was
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But with 5 gallons left, I would be surprised that it would be
sucking air into the fuel line.

Ooops.  Sorry about mistyping "fuel" in the subject line.

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SnoMan - 16 Sep 2006 14:08 GMT
>But with 5 gallons left, I would be surprised that it would be
>sucking air into the fuel line.
>
>Ooops.  Sorry about mistyping "fuel" in the subject line.

5 gallons is little more than a puddle in a 38 gallon tank and tank is
long and skinny so it can easily  sloush forward away from pickup and
plus pickup will not suck tank dry either so instead of 5 gallons you
may of only had 3 or so gallons of usable fuel left .  The moral is do
not try to drive 30+ miles on hills when light comes on. When I tow I
never tow below 1/4 tank generally because you are using more fuel
anyway and you want to have some reserve too if needed.
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asadi - 18 Sep 2006 11:21 GMT
Yup, I consider one quarter of a tank to be empty...
john

>>But with 5 gallons left, I would be surprised that it would be
>>sucking air into the fuel line.
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Dusty - 17 Sep 2006 13:36 GMT
G'day "rvfulltime" & all;

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>>>was 32.5 gallons.  I suspect that driving down hill was the
>>>problem and that if I just continued on to my destination, I
>>>would have made it no problem.
The unanswered question:  Did the problem go away when you filled
up?

TIA,
Dusty
Everett, Wa.
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rvfulltime - 18 Sep 2006 00:12 GMT
>G'day "rvfulltime" & all;
>
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>The unanswered question:  Did the problem go away when you filled
>up?

About 3 miles after I bought diesel the symptoms disappeared.

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Delbert - 18 Sep 2006 02:10 GMT
About 3 miles after I bought diesel the symptoms disappeared.

THAT in itself should tell you something
rvfulltime - 19 Sep 2006 01:45 GMT
>About 3 miles after I bought diesel the symptoms disappeared.
>
>THAT in itself should tell you something

Also, the highway flattened out.  It was down hill for over 15 miles,
most of it at 5% to 6% grade.  The last 3 miles at about 2% grade.
I filled up at the point where it flattened out.

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SnoMan - 19 Sep 2006 01:54 GMT
>It was down hill for over 15 miles,
>most of it at 5% to 6% grade.  The last 3 miles at about 2% grade.
>I filled up at the point where it flattened out.

Tha would mkae the front of the tank about 2 to 3 inches lower than
the rear and five gallons would yeild between 2 and 3 inches of fuel
in a level tank of that size and with the tilt you would have about 5
to 6 inches of fuel in front and about 1 inch or less in fuel pickup
area and run out of fuel.
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