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Guido - 20 Sep 2003 06:49 GMT Is there a method of disabling the speed limiter on a 2003 f250 superduty 5.4 triton?? Without using a hyperchip??
please post or e-mail
donn1@shaw.ca
Thanks for any help
Falcoon - 20 Sep 2003 11:50 GMT the easyist way is to blow by a cop, cutting him off almost sending him into the guardrail. he will bust you ,rip up your liscence, and then you will not have to worry about the truck being speed governed
PC PODD - 20 Sep 2003 14:01 GMT Interesting ...
> the easyist way is to blow by a cop, cutting him off almost sending him into > the guardrail. he will bust you ,rip up your liscence, and then you will not > have to worry about the truck being speed governed EJGroth - 20 Sep 2003 22:14 GMT >Subject: Re: How to disable speed limiter on F250 SD 2003 >From: falcoon@aol.com (Falcoon) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the guardrail. he will bust you ,rip up your liscence, and then you will not >have to worry about the truck being speed governed I'll take that as a "I don't know".
Falcoon - 20 Sep 2003 22:42 GMT no, actually i do know how, but also feel anyone that feels they have to go faster than their vehicle is governed at does not deserve the privelage of a drivers liscence,and should have at least 5 cops up their a.ses any time they get behind the wheel
IdaSpode - 22 Sep 2003 21:51 GMT >no, actually i do know how, but also feel anyone that feels they have to go >faster than their vehicle is governed at does not deserve the privelage of a >drivers liscence,and should have at least 5 cops up their a.ses any time they >get behind the wheel. Hmmm, as far as I know, the highest posted speed limit in the US is 75 mph. Have you ever driven a vehicle faster than that?
How about if the manufacturer of *your* vehicle decided you didn't need to drive at any speed which would exceed the max 75 mph legal limit? Would you accept it? If you wanted to make your vehicle capable of going faster than that would you also qualify for:
"...does not deserve the privilege of a drivers license, and should have at least 5 cops up your a.s any time you get behind the wheel."
I can't believe all the dumbass replies this poor fellow is getting...
David Jones djones<at>LSidaho.com
gw - 22 Sep 2003 22:04 GMT Are we going to start the "Big Brother" argument again?
The speed limiter is not set to 75MPH, it is set just below the maximum speed rating of the cheap sh!t OEM tires.
Explorer. Underinflation. High Speed. BOOM. Rollovers. Lawsuits. Death of a tire company (seen any Firestones lately?). Thank the lawyers and generous juries for your speed limiters, then fork out the $200 for a chip, and about $600 for high-speed tires.
The manufacturer decided what the maximum safe operating speed of the vehicle is as a design package. It is not some cabal to curb speeding.
> >no, actually i do know how, but also feel anyone that feels they have to go > >faster than their vehicle is governed at does not deserve the privelage of a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > David Jones > djones<at>LSidaho.com Falcoon - 22 Sep 2003 23:39 GMT first off i have no need to excede the speed limit. second ,in my years with the police and fire departments,i have seen way to many dead people that had the rite to excede the speed limit, including 2 teenagers that had the rite to die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at 95.
David M - 23 Sep 2003 05:36 GMT > first off i have no need to excede the speed limit. second ,in my years > with the police and fire departments,i have seen way to many dead people > that had the rite to excede the speed limit, including 2 teenagers that > had the rite to die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at > 95. Try using the spell checker next time.
akvaska@sbcglobal.net - 23 Sep 2003 11:05 GMT Maybe he wants to know for educational purposes only?? Can't we give him the benefit of the doubt?
> > first off i have no need to excede the speed limit. second ,in my years > > with the police and fire departments,i have seen way to many dead people [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Try using the spell checker next time. IdaSpode - 23 Sep 2003 16:51 GMT >first off i have no need to excede the speed limit. Shall we take that as an affirmation that indeed, it would not bother you if your vehicle had a speed limiter that cut in at 75mph (or whatever the maximum legal speed limit in your neck of the woods) with like rated tires as stock equipment?
>second ,in my years with >the police and fire departments,i have seen way to many dead people that had >the rite to excede the speed limit, including 2 teenagers that had the rite to >die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at 95. No matter how hard people try, you can't outlaw stupidity. Would it have made a difference if a limiter kicked in at 90?
Maybe we need to carry the "Onstar" concept a few steps further. I saw a short story on the news last evening about how a stolen car can be located with Onstar, and the horn and emergency flashing lights being activated from afar. How about active elements imbedded in (or next to) the road surface that communicate with your vehicle which will prevent you from exceeding the posted speed limit? Good idea or bad?
David Jones djones<at>LSidaho.com
frosty - 23 Sep 2003 17:53 GMT [snip]
> Maybe we need to carry the "Onstar" concept a few steps further. I saw > a short story on the news last evening about how a stolen car can be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > David Jones > djones<at>LSidaho.com I'm guessing John Ashcroft would like that idea! =`:^>
-- frosty
Dave Mundt - 23 Sep 2003 18:58 GMT Greetings and Salutations.
*snip*
>Maybe we need to carry the "Onstar" concept a few steps further. I saw >a short story on the news last evening about how a stolen car can be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >David Jones >djones<at>LSidaho.com I would say, overall, a "neutral" thing, that could be turned to "evil" fairly easily, so, something that we should avoid. It used to be that the only folks under constant observation were high security prisoners. Now, more and more, ordinary citizens are burdened with that same, intrusive presence. I saw a note on http://www.theregister.co.uk/ yesterday that the folks in Great Britain are considering something like this, but, but government is apparently planning to use it to track what roads the citizens use, for toll billing purpose. At the end of the month, you would get a bill for the total amount you spent on the various toll roads. While it might SOUND attractive, I can only see government using this as a tool of taxation as quickly as possible, and, sucking MORE money out of our pockets. A bad thing. Not only that, it is another step in the process of turning us into mewling infants and removing personal responsibility from us. How are we going to grow up if we are continually told that we are not adult enough to take responsiblity for following the laws. If we do not mature enough to do this, then, we are not citizens, we are sheep, being mindlessly herded from place to place from birth to slaughter. Is that the promise and dream of America? I think not. Finally, while electronics, etc, are wonderful things, there is always the possibility of failure...and what happens then? Regards Dave Mundt
Falcoon - 23 Sep 2003 20:20 GMT it would not bother me if the speed was governed at 65. because i very rarely excede 60, and the max speed in most of the country is 65, including here in nj.
Jeepers - 23 Sep 2003 20:50 GMT > it would not bother me if the speed was governed at 65. because i very rarely > excede 60, and the max speed in most of the country is 65, including here in > nj. 75, here in parts of Texas. There are places where you can drive this speed for HOURS on end.
rokkinhorse@webtv.net - 29 Sep 2003 04:25 GMT Nevada is the same way; posted 75. My first introduction to the speed limiter on my 94 Bronco was in Montana in 1996. The speed posted there was "safe and prudent". I think it's changed now to a posted limit. FWIW, mine cut out at very close to 120MPH, as near as I can figure. The road system I was on (I-90) at the time was smooth, wide superslab, with wide clear aprons and basically -straight-. My Bronco was two years old and I had just had a set of BFG trail T/As put on it. The truck was capable of considerably more, the tires were NOT.
YMMV.
Randy 94 Bronco EB 95 Bronco XLT 96 XL (Son's)
alvinj@XX.com - 29 Sep 2003 05:01 GMT > FWIW, mine cut out at very close to 120MPH, as near as I can figure. > The truck was capable of considerably more, the tires were NOT. > Randy > 94 Bronco EB > 95 Bronco XLT > 96 XL (Son's) Back in the 70's goodyear made "police special" tires. They were basically half worn out tires brand new for more money. :) The tread was shallow, brand new, like 1/2 or even 1/3 normal. They were rated at 120mph. A guy told me not long ago that all car tires were rated at 120mph now. Is that so? :/
Alvin in AZ ('75 F150 235/85-16's load-E)
Blair Baucom - 29 Sep 2003 05:29 GMT There are lots of different ratings, should be a chart at most tire websites. Off the top of my head: S=112 mph H=130 mph V=149 mph Z=149 + mph
See www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/speed.htm for more codes.
Blair
> > FWIW, mine cut out at very close to 120MPH, as near as I can figure. > > The truck was capable of considerably more, the tires were NOT. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Alvin in AZ ('75 F150 235/85-16's load-E) Plasyd - 29 Sep 2003 05:11 GMT I can recall before the speed limit was "reasonable and prudent" it was a $5.00 fine, payable in cash to the officer that pulled you over, did not show up on your records, and was written for 'Wasting a Natural Resource'.
The joke used to be you put a $20.00 bill in your window when you crossed the state line, and drove as fast as you felt like.
It's no longer that way. <sob>
Plasyd
> Nevada is the same way; posted 75. > My first introduction to the speed limiter on my 94 Bronco was in [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > 95 Bronco XLT > 96 XL (Son's) Ralph E Lindberg - 29 Sep 2003 13:28 GMT > Nevada is the same way; posted 75. > My first introduction to the speed limiter on my 94 Bronco was in > Montana in 1996. > The speed posted there was "safe and prudent". I think it's changed now > to a posted limit. Yes it has ..
> FWIW, mine cut out at very close to 120MPH, as near as I can figure. > The road system ..and the fine for that speed would curl your hair (ie they would call it reckless driving)
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Gromit - 28 Sep 2003 03:35 GMT There was a time that the max speed was 55, deemed as the most fuel efficient and safest. Just because you don't go over 60 does not mean the rest of us follow in your tracks. Hell, my grandfather (before he died. He slowed down considderably afterward) rarely broke 50. Far as he was concerned, nobody should be allowed to run greater than 50.
>it would not bother me if the speed was governed at 65. because i very rarely >excede 60, and the max speed in most of the country is 65, including here in >nj. C-squared - 24 Sep 2003 04:38 GMT >No matter how hard people try, you can't outlaw stupidity. and that is (partially the reason) why the speed governors were installed.
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Gromit - 28 Sep 2003 03:32 GMT Please don't go drumming up the theatrics about your 'years with the police and fire depts'. I've logged 16 years with fire/rescue, quite a few of 'em as a paramedic. I now work in an ICU at a local hospital. Teenagers do stupid things. So do adults. People die in slow speed crashes all the time, running stop signs. Others have a heart attack behind the wheel. They all had the rite (lets spell it correctly: RIGHT) to die. Who made YOU the moral authority to safe-guard everyone else? You have no need to excede the speed limit? Ok. So you are the one person in the whole country that never speeds? Never tips the pedal a few miles over the limit? Never pumps the go-pedal to get around someone who may be running a bit too slow? Makes you the rare one. Personally, I like knowing I have the power if I so decide to employ it. I don't like someone deciding they have the right to dictate what I cannot have, just because they think they are safeguarding me. If I want that, I'll go to some socialist country.
>first off i have no need to excede the speed limit. second ,in my years with >the police and fire departments,i have seen way to many dead people that had >the rite to excede the speed limit, including 2 teenagers that had the rite to >die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at 95. Exodus - 28 Sep 2003 03:56 GMT You are already living in a socialist country. You are just too damned stupid to recognize it. If there was no speed limiter on the vehicle, you would be complaining that they didn't design it with a more powerful engine that would allow you to go the speed of light. Hey, some people just like to find something to bitch about. It appears that you are one of those people.
> Please don't go drumming up the theatrics about your 'years with the > police and fire depts'. I've logged 16 years with fire/rescue, quite [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >the rite to excede the speed limit, including 2 teenagers that had the rite to > >die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at 95. Gromit - 29 Sep 2003 03:24 GMT Excuse me, but the bitching was done by YOU, my socialist friend. YOU were saying how nobody else should be allowed and should have cops on their a.s and all that rot. Besides, I don't bitch that they don't build enough power into the engine. I go to speed-shops and buy what I need to make my engines what I want them. No bitching. Yes building.
BTW, you show your ignorance too clearly. You want REAL socialism, you need to look elsewhere. Been there. Liberals are fast pushing our country in that direction, but we still have a long way to go.
>You are already living in a socialist country. You are just too damned >stupid to recognize it. If there was no speed limiter on the vehicle, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >the rite to >> >die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at 95. Exodus - 29 Sep 2003 05:46 GMT You have me confused with someone else. I said nothing about cops on your a.s.
> Excuse me, but the bitching was done by YOU, my socialist friend. YOU > were saying how nobody else should be allowed and should have cops on [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >the rite to > >> >die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at 95. Dave Mundt - 28 Sep 2003 05:44 GMT Greetings and Salutations...
>first off i have no need to excede the speed limit. second ,in my years with >the police and fire departments,i have seen way to many dead people that had >the rite to excede the speed limit, including 2 teenagers that had the rite to >die sat morning when they tried to take a 25mph turn at 95. Although you have been taken to task by others for using "rite" instead of "right", I prefer to think that you were using some subtle humor and wisdom here. From www.dictionary.com: P Pronunciation Key (rt) n. 1) The prescribed or customary form for conducting a religious or other solemn ceremony: the rite of baptism. 2) A ceremonial act or series of acts: fertility rites.
For WAY too many folks in the world, their way of proving how powerful and virile they are is to drive way over the speed limit. For SOME folks, the problem is that they are ignorant. They do not have a clue as to the forces involved in speed, and how easily it can go out of control. I hope that is why I was passed by SUVs (some of which had the drivers chatting away on the phone) last winter, as they blasted along at 60 MPH on the interstate, in spite of several inches of snow, and, upwards of an inch of ice. Actually, I proposed, some time ago, that the states implement Smart Card licenses, that would have an "upper speed limit" for the driver, based on reflex and perception tests administered every few years. The vehicles could have slots that the license would slip into. The cops could set up with a radar gun that would ping the vehicle, and, flag anyone that was driving "over the limit". needless to say, there are a lot of avenues for abuse here, from the side of the drivers - with folks borrowing other folk's licenses, to the authorities - setting up automated speed traps, to the fact that this pretty well ignores "special conditions". Why DO we have speed limits anyway? I suspect that the "main" goal is to keep large numbers of citizens from killing themselves by hitting a given stretch of road faster than is safe. Now, the state also makes a boatload of cash off folks that exceed the speed limit, which is a negative. I also suspect that, while in some cases, the speed limit is an arbitrary number, in most cases is is the maximum safe speed through an area, under bad conditions. There are a lot of curves and sections of road where the speed limit is as fast as one wants to drive when it is foggy, or rainy, or there is snow and ice on the road. It is quite true, too, that one can drive through the same section of road at anywhere from 10 MPH to 30 MPH faster than the posted speed limit when the conditions are good (dry road, sunlight, etc). Around here in Knoxpatch, the posted speed limit on the Interstate through construction zones tends to be 45 MPH. To me this makes sense, because there are large numbers of people working only a foot or two from the traffic, and, lots of large pieces of machinery moving heavy bits about. It is an excellent chance for a slight mishap to deposit a human, or a large chunk of rock/dirt right in front of you. Driving at 45 WAY increases the time one might have to react, and, cuts the distance needed to stop by a huge percentage too. There is a good reason for that speed limit, which makes it even more puzzling to me as to why folks blast through the construction areas at 60 MPH. As for the other post about driving through Texas... out in that area of the country, one can drive at 90 MPH for hours and hardly see a change in the country. I think that the speed limit SHOULD be higher in those areas. In any case, sorry for rambling along, but, I seem to be poking about this issue just now. Regards Dave Mundt
David M - 28 Sep 2003 16:16 GMT > Greetings and Salutations... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "rite" instead of "right", I prefer to think that you were using some > subtle humor and wisdom here. From www.dictionary.com: Nah, he jost doesnt no how to speeel.
Plasyd - 28 Sep 2003 16:53 GMT <snip>
>I also suspect that, while in some cases, > the speed limit is an arbitrary number, in most cases is is the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 10 MPH to 30 MPH faster than the posted speed limit when the > conditions are good (dry road, sunlight, etc). <snip>
> Dave Mundt A while back Montana had a "Reasonable and Prudent" upper speed limit. Trucks and night driving was limited @ 65.
It's no longer that way. I had no problem driving on dry roads in excess of 3 digits in my Shelby with Z rated tires. The problem was the idiots driving junkers with regular tires trying to run the same speeds.
This is why I would not only have the individual licensed for high speed driving, but also the equipment. For instance, my high speed license would only be valid in the Shelby, while in my Ranger, bone stock, it would not apply.
That being said. I'm not so sure I'd want to get a full size pick-up going much faster than 75. But this is only a reflection of my living in Montana for a while, and seeing what happens when a high center of gravity vehicle tries to make a sudden lane change at a high rate of speed.
Trucks and SUV's don't handle like Mustang SVT Cobra's, or for that matter, a car in general. Frankly, if you need to go fast, get a vehicle that can handle it.
Plasyd
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Gromit - 29 Sep 2003 03:32 GMT Heartily agree with this. When I was driving the rig, I had to have a Class A CDL with special endorsements for the equipment I was driving and product type I was hauling (was licensed to drive doubles, tripples, tankers, as well as hazardous materials. My equipment was, to say the least, designed to do what I was doing, and I had proven I could perform these tasks at least to a minimal ability. High-speed driving SHOULD be performed in equipment made for such purposes, and no, I wouldn't dream of running my F250 up in that tripple-digit area (not that it would ever make that w/o some serious mods anyway).
> <snip> >>I also suspect that, while in some cases, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Plasyd Gromit - 28 Sep 2003 03:23 GMT Gotta love that 'big brother' mentality.
>no, actually i do know how, but also feel anyone that feels they have to go >faster than their vehicle is governed at does not deserve the privelage of a >drivers liscence,and should have at least 5 cops up their a.ses any time they >get behind the wheel Exodus - 28 Sep 2003 03:56 GMT And, it is exactly you, and other morons with the same mentality as you, that Ford needs to protect themselves and others from. Hence the speed limiting device.
> Gotta love that 'big brother' mentality. > > >no, actually i do know how, but also feel anyone that feels they have to go > >faster than their vehicle is governed at does not deserve the privelage of a > >drivers liscence,and should have at least 5 cops up their a.ses any time they > >get behind the wheel MOTO - 20 Sep 2003 14:45 GMT You can do it with a Superchips Microtuner for around $269.
SMC
> Is there a method of disabling the speed limiter on a 2003 f250 superduty > 5.4 triton?? Without using a hyperchip?? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks for any help C-squared - 20 Sep 2003 20:24 GMT >Is there a method of disabling the speed limiter on a 2003 f250 superduty >5.4 triton?? Without using a hyperchip?? > >please post or e-mail Are you going to get tires with the proper speed rating to handle the higher speeds?
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Ralph E Lindberg - 22 Sep 2003 13:33 GMT > Is there a method of disabling the speed limiter on a 2003 f250 superduty > 5.4 triton?? Without using a hyperchip?? > > please post or e-mail Why, when you didn't read the replies when you first posted this question last week.
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frosty - 22 Sep 2003 18:08 GMT I think it runs off a wire under the hood, somewhere. Try cutting wires until it is disabled. Good luck! =`:^>
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> Is there a method of disabling the speed limiter on a 2003 f250 > superduty 5.4 triton?? Without using a hyperchip?? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks for any help Larry Durst - 27 Sep 2003 05:01 GMT Well since some of you "people" approve of the speed limiter, how would you feel if you bought a ferrari with a 65 speed limiter on it? I think that's stupidity right there. Whether he wants to break the law is his problem, I do it all the time and i'm fine and so is everybody else. It's not technically as bad as ya think. So if I knew how to do it i'd help ya out man but I dont know the first start of it.
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rokkinhorse@webtv.net - 29 Sep 2003 04:10 GMT IIRC, the fuel pump relay drops when the limiter engages. If that's the case, a toggle switch paralleling the fuel pump relay contacts would allow the fuel pump to continue to operate, defeating the limiter. NOTE: CONSULT YOUR WIRING DIAGRAM BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS and find out what else if anything is powered off that relay circuit. You MAY be creating a potentially dangerous situation by over-riding this SAFETY DEVICE.
Randy
Bob - 29 Sep 2003 05:06 GMT > IIRC, the fuel pump relay drops when the limiter engages. > If that's the case, a toggle switch paralleling the fuel pump relay [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Randy The rev limiter has nothing to do with the fuel pump relay. It randomly kills fuel injectors Bob
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