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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / January 2007

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FORD EXPEDITION ELECTRICAL SYSTEM WITH HARD RAIN

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caljune34 - 01 Dec 2006 03:36 GMT
I HAVE A FORD EXPEDITION EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS HARD ALL MY
GADGES GO BONKERS, WINDOWS WON'T WORK AND TRUCK WON'T START.  HIS
HAPPENED ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO, WE GOT A NEW ALTERNATOR.   SEEMED TO BE
FINE FOR A WHILE JUST RECENTLY IT HAPPENED AGAIN.  TRIED JUMPING IT AND
IT WON'T START.  NOW I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ANY RENTAL COMPANY THAT HAS
ANYTHING LARGE ENOUGH TO PUT AN EXPEDITION ON SO WE CAN TOW IT HOME.

HAS ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM WITH FORD ELECTRICAL SYSEMS?
Warren Weber - 01 Dec 2006 03:46 GMT
>I HAVE A FORD EXPEDITION EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS HARD ALL MY
> GADGES GO BONKERS, WINDOWS WON'T WORK AND TRUCK WON'T START.  HIS
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> HAS ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM WITH FORD ELECTRICAL SYSEMS?

First, turn off your caps lock then call a towing company that has a flat
bed towing rig. I had to have my extended van towed once this way.
JimV - 01 Dec 2006 04:37 GMT
> I HAVE A FORD EXPEDITION EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS HARD ALL MY
> GADGES GO BONKERS, WINDOWS WON'T WORK AND TRUCK WON'T START.  HIS
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> HAS ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM WITH FORD ELECTRICAL SYSEMS?

STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPS and the clean the connections at both ends of
both battery cables.
I. Care - 01 Dec 2006 06:21 GMT
> I HAVE A FORD EXPEDITION EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS HARD ALL MY
> GADGES GO BONKERS, WINDOWS WON'T WORK AND TRUCK WON'T START.  HIS
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> HAS ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM WITH FORD ELECTRICAL SYSEMS?

All caps is considered SHOUTING!!!!
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Address fake until the SPAM goes away ;-}

CJB - 01 Dec 2006 14:02 GMT
>I HAVE A FORD EXPEDITION EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS HARD ALL MY
> GADGES GO BONKERS, WINDOWS WON'T WORK AND TRUCK WON'T START.  HIS
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> HAS ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM WITH FORD ELECTRICAL SYSEMS?

Yes, I've seen similar on F-Series.  The problem is most likely in the GEM,
the Generic Electrical Module.  Everything in the car runs thru it, and if
you have a windshield leak, they're prone to accumulating moisture and
shorting out or corroding.  So, long story short, the problem is a bad GEM,
but the GEM has failed due to a leak that allows water to get to it.  Fix
both problems.

CJB
Ford Tech - 08 Jan 2007 02:54 GMT
>>I HAVE A FORD EXPEDITION EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS HARD ALL MY
>> GADGES GO BONKERS, WINDOWS WON'T WORK AND TRUCK WON'T START.  HIS
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> CJB

Good job CJB, but you forgot to mention that if you have water intrusion in
the GEM then you have water in the CJB as well, which is not good cause it
houses a couple of important relays (that you cant change out, without
changing the CJB). What that translates into is replacing BOTH the GEM
(Generic Electronic Module) and the CJB (central junction box) becuase they
are connected directly to one another. The water usually drips from the
windshield onto the main harness and finds it way to the CJB, then it
migrates from there to the lower GEM. Before you go throwing parts at it,
see if you can look at the wiring loom going in to your CJB (aka fuse
panel), which is down by the E-brake on dr. side, and see if you can get
water out of it, or if it is showing signs of water being present before. If
you can, then you have the aforementioned condition and need to replace BOTH
the CJB and the GEM.

Ford Tech
CJB - 08 Jan 2007 17:56 GMT
>>>I HAVE A FORD EXPEDITION EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS HARD ALL MY
>>> GADGES GO BONKERS, WINDOWS WON'T WORK AND TRUCK WON'T START.  HIS
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> Ford Tech

Just don't tell my wife that a CJB can be replaced.  ;-)

CJB
Ford Tech - 10 Jan 2007 04:25 GMT
> Just don't tell my wife that a CJB can be replaced.  ;-)
>
> CJB

LMAO!!! Good one CJB

Ford Tech
Whitelightning - 10 Jan 2007 23:06 GMT
> > Just don't tell my wife that a CJB can be replaced.  ;-)
> >
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> Ford Tech

Only by something like a CJ 2A or any MB

Whitelightning
CJB - 12 Jan 2007 00:54 GMT
>> > Just don't tell my wife that a CJB can be replaced.  ;-)
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> Whitelightning

Too lazy to google that reference, but it sounds like a Champion plug.

CJb
Whitelightning - 12 Jan 2007 17:55 GMT
> > Only by something like a CJ 2A or any MB
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> CJb

Ok make it easy, MB was the designation of military jeeps during WW2.
The CJ 2A was the first series of civilian jeeps followed b the CJ3A, which
was  followed by the CJ3B series.  As there was only the CJ3B model, many
shorten it to just CJB
I thought perhaps your handle might make you a flat fender jeep owner.

Whitelightning
CJB - 12 Jan 2007 18:34 GMT
>> > Only by something like a CJ 2A or any MB
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> Whitelightning

I gotcha now.  I'm familiar with the CJ 5 and CJ 7, so i shoulda hit on that
one.  CJB is my initials.

CJB
nobody > - 13 Jan 2007 04:40 GMT
>>> Just don't tell my wife that a CJB can be replaced.  ;-)
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> Whitelightning

No M38A1s?
Steve Barker - 14 Jan 2007 01:26 GMT
There's a blast from the past!  I had one of those for a while.  completely
stock except for the 327 chevy.  They never built them the same after that.

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> No M38A1s?
nobody > - 20 Jan 2007 02:56 GMT
> There's a blast from the past!  I had one of those for a while.  completely
> stock except for the 327 chevy.  They never built them the same after that.

Mine was USAF blue, with a 110 horse Mercruiser 4banger (Chev 153 with
boat parts). Wishing all to hell that I'd kept it. If nothing else, the
look on gas station attendant's faces (remember those guys?) when they
opened the hood was choice.
 
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