Recently my 1978 Ford E150 conversion van developed a leak in a brake
line. Took it to my local shop to be fixed. Awhile later I picked it up
and the bill was a little over $75.00. $15.00 + for parts, $60.00 per
hour labor rate.
With so many knowledgeable people here from all over the country, I was
wondering if this is a standard per hour rate. I live in west Michigan.
I don't begrudge anyone a living wage and appreciate the expertise &
knowledge of mechanics, but also want to be treated fairly.
If the consenses is that this is standard, I'll accept that as so.
Ken
Jeff Strickland - 24 Dec 2006 20:46 GMT
In my area, labor rates at the stealership run to about $70. An independent
will likely be cheaper, and all are required to post the labor rate in the
customer waiting area, or in a place where the customers can easily see what
it is.
The mechanics typically charge on a flat rate, where they refer to a book
tht gives them a number of hours for a particular service. The mechanic
strives to complete the job in the time alloted or less. If they manage to
complete the job in less time, they still get to charge the flat rate. (If a
job should take an hour, and they complete it a half-hour, they make money,
if they finish in an hour and a half, they do not charge more and they lose
money.) As a practical matter, they seldom take longer than the quoted time.
> Recently my 1978 Ford E150 conversion van developed a leak in a brake
> line. Took it to my local shop to be fixed. Awhile later I picked it up
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> Ken
CJB - 24 Dec 2006 21:18 GMT
> Recently my 1978 Ford E150 conversion van developed a leak in a brake
> line. Took it to my local shop to be fixed. Awhile later I picked it up
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> Ken
You'll find huge differences from place to place. A Ford dealer here in the
DC metro area charges at least $90/hr, and the independents are pretty close
to that too. Specialty dealerships like Mercedes, BMW, etc., charge $135+
I've been told.
Where my parents live in rural WV, larger dealerships charge $60 or so, but
one small, out-of-the-way Ford dealer charges $45/hr. If I can plan my
repairs and maintenance in advance, I have them do my work when needed.
CJB
aarcuda69062 - 24 Dec 2006 21:22 GMT
> Recently my 1978 Ford E150 conversion van developed a leak in a brake
> line. Took it to my local shop to be fixed. Awhile later I picked it up
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> With so many knowledgeable people here from all over the country, I was
> wondering if this is a standard per hour rate. I live in west Michigan.
There is no standardized labor rate.
> I don't begrudge anyone a living wage and appreciate the expertise &
> knowledge of mechanics, but also want to be treated fairly.
>
> If the consenses is that this is standard, I'll accept that as so.
Without knowing exactly how much of the rear brake line was
replaced and how tidy the finished job was, it would be
impossible to say whether you were treated fairly.
$75 is pretty close to what I charged for the 92 F-150 I did
about a month ago, ABS modulator to rear axle flex hose.
That same job on a Toyota car with dual brake lines would run
over $200
Bill Benson - 24 Dec 2006 21:46 GMT
Thanks for the responses.
I guess the independant I went to is pretty much in line with others at
$60.00 an hour labor.
Tom J - 25 Dec 2006 00:10 GMT
> Recently my 1978 Ford E150 conversion van developed a leak in a
> brake
> line. Took it to my local shop to be fixed. Awhile later I picked it
> up and the bill was a little over $75.00. $15.00 + for parts, $60.00
> per hour labor rate.
The dealer I go to charges $72 per hour. The independent up the street
charges $65 per hour, and the better thing is, he only charges actual
hours required to do the work, not the book time!! Some things are
still done better by the dealer.
Metro Atlanta, GA
Tom J
Steve Barker LT - 25 Dec 2006 00:20 GMT
Flat rate is the only fair way to do business. What if they guy is a slow
MF? Then you get charged 3 hours for a 30 minute job. It takes a damn good
mechanic to CONSISTENTLY beat the flat rate book. Been there, done that.
(twice)

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Steve Barker
>> Recently my 1978 Ford E150 conversion van developed a leak in a brake
>> line. Took it to my local shop to be fixed. Awhile later I picked it
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> Tom J
Whitelightning - 25 Dec 2006 02:30 GMT
> Flat rate is the only fair way to do business. What if they guy is a slow
> MF? Then you get charged 3 hours for a 30 minute job. It takes a damn good
> mechanic to CONSISTENTLY beat the flat rate book. Been there, done that.
> (twice)
The key word Steve is Mechanic, vrs a technician.
Whitelightning
Tom J - 25 Dec 2006 03:05 GMT
> Flat rate is the only fair way to do business. What if they guy is
> a
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>> Tom J
The independant up the street is a really good mechanic and besides
that he is honest. I've never heard anyone that even though he didn't
do everything that was needed and nothing else when repairing their
vehicle. There are some things he doesn't do and he tells you up
front what they are. I've never had a dealership turn a repair around
as fast as he does.
Tom J