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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / January 2007

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spark plug torque for 99 lincoln 5.4 32V

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News Skimmer - 14 Jan 2007 07:32 GMT
Can anyone verify the correct torque for spark plugs in a 99 navigator 5.4
32v?

I've found conflicting information and would like to verify with a reliable
publication.

Thanks in advance.

skimmer
Ford Tech - 15 Jan 2007 01:36 GMT
> Can anyone verify the correct torque for spark plugs in a 99 navigator 5.4
> 32v?
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> skimmer

Skimmer,
The answer you are looking for is 15 ft. lbs. of torque on your spark plugs
IAW the workshop Manual on Fords website. Which is updated with the LATEST
information.

Ford Tech
News Skimmer - 15 Jan 2007 01:53 GMT
Thanks,

My helm book showed 7.5 ft lbs / 89 in lbs / 10 Nm.

My torque wrench is about 18 inches long. When it clicked over at 89, it
didn't even feel like the plug seated so I went on about an 8th of a turn.

I started worrying about it and a search revealed various numbers and a
history of plug blow out. 15 is the highest I've seen. Jasper engines had a
bulletin that it was fourteen...obviously still tighter than 7.5.

Do you think I should leave them as is or open them back up? The starboard
side is a bitch to get to. I'm scared to keep messing with them.

skimmer

>> Can anyone verify the correct torque for spark plugs in a 99 navigator
>> 5.4 32v?
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> Ford Tech
Ford Tech - 15 Jan 2007 02:28 GMT
> Thanks,
>
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> side is a bitch to get to. I'm scared to keep messing with them.
> skimmer

Skimmer,

   I hate to tell you this, but you need to break them loose and retorque
them. You have to make sure they are torqued correctly, otherwise they can
work loose and blow out, and that isnt any fun. Better to "keep messing with
them" and get it right (now), then to have to repair stripped threads from a
blow out a couple thousand miles down the road.. That and I would definitely
follow OEM torque specs ALWAYS. They know best.
   I dont know where anyone got their info from. What is a Helm book?
Always use Haynes, or Chilton, or if you have access to online you can get
All-Data for like $20 for one vehicle for a year through www.autozone.com .
I have used ALL-DATA before and it worked good for me, and when I compared
it with the books at Ford, it was practically the same.. Looked like a photo
copy.. LOL

Ford Tech
I. Care - 15 Jan 2007 02:50 GMT
> > Thanks,
> >
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>
> Ford Tech

The Helm book is basically the Factory manual.  Haynes and Chilton are a
cheap after market book.  I have used both and they were very poor
except for very basic things.
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David M - 15 Jan 2007 10:19 GMT
> What is a Helm book?
>
> Ford Tech

I would think a 'Ford Tech' would know that Helm, Inc. prints the OEM
manuals... which dealership did you say you worked at?

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putt@webtv.net - 15 Jan 2007 12:39 GMT
>I would think a 'Ford Tech' would know
> that Helm, Inc. prints the OEM
> manuals...

Yes, I would too.....

Advising someone to use a Haynes/Chilton 'repair' manual, tells us
something too....

Dave S(Texas)
Steve Barker - 15 Jan 2007 13:13 GMT
He's made several questionable comments.  In fact, most of his replies are
inaccurate.  So I'm not surprised he doesn't know about helm.  Probably
doesn't even work at a dealership.

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>> What is a Helm book?
>>
>> Ford Tech
>
> I would think a 'Ford Tech' would know that Helm, Inc. prints the OEM
> manuals... which dealership did you say you worked at?
Ford Tech - 16 Jan 2007 06:03 GMT
> He's made several questionable comments.  In fact, most of his replies are
> inaccurate.  So I'm not surprised he doesn't know about helm.  Probably
> doesn't even work at a dealership.

And what dealership do you work at? I have posted my credentials.. I will
also have you know that I am ASE certified in 5 areas:
Gas Engine
Diesel Engine
Brakes
Suspension & Steering
Air Conditioning and Heating

And why dont you post at to MOST of my info is inaccurate? Where is your
comments w/facts to back this up. I always try to back my comments up with
facts or service literature.

Ford Tech
Ford Tech - 15 Jan 2007 19:16 GMT
>> What is a Helm book?
>>
>> Ford Tech
>
> I would think a 'Ford Tech' would know that Helm, Inc. prints the OEM
> manuals... which dealership did you say you worked at?

Actually you will notice on the back of the wiring diagram that I have right
here, that they are printed by LITHO, and have that in black in white
somewhere around here. That I got during my training at the Hotline, ya know
the ones you guys call when you have a problem you cant fix..
   As for my current employment. Currently I dont work at a dealership. I
have been employed at the Ford Techincal Hotline in Allen Park, Mi, and have
worked at Joplin Ford in Joplin, MO. Not everyone is going to be correct all
the time, I just add my input and if someone else is right, then I say so. I
think its funny that you all call each other names ( not completely innocent
here, but only done it once), and get bent out of shape when someone refutes
your information. Most of my information comes off of the Oasis site. DO you
guys have access to Oasis while sitting at your home computers?? I didnt
think so. Another perk of working directly for Ford in Dearborn, you get the
generic login for fmc dealer to work on web based training, but at the same
time it allows access to Oasis.

Ford Tech
Ford Tech - 15 Jan 2007 20:01 GMT
>> What is a Helm book?
>>
>> Ford Tech
>
> I would think a 'Ford Tech' would know that Helm, Inc. prints the OEM
> manuals... which dealership did you say you worked at?

UPDATE!!
Helm prints factory AUTHORIZED service manuals, which means that they are
printed by Helm and approved by Ford to be used as a service manual, but not
the exact same thing. Oh, and the EVTM that I have here, is for a 2000 Ford
Ranger (my truck). Some of you (if you work at a FORD dealership) might know
Ranger Rick (he is the ranger SME at the hotline), and those that work on
Diesels have probably talked to Andrew on the diesel line, but he is also
the SME for Econolines. For those that dont know SME is Subject Matter
Expert.

I will tell you I dont plan on working for one of the BIG 3 when I graduate
college. I am looking at the OTR industry. More money to be had in that
industry, but that doesnt mean I dont know anything about Fords, I have been
working on Fords for well over 10yrs.

Ford Tech
News Skimmer - 16 Jan 2007 04:54 GMT
I had no idea this question would cause so much discussion....and expose the
Ford Tech.

Can anyone besides him comment on my dilemma?

skimmer

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> Ford Tech
I. Care - 16 Jan 2007 05:18 GMT
> I had no idea this question would cause so much discussion....and expose the
> Ford Tech.
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> >
> > Ford Tech

If it's publication info you want you have had several comments.  
Another option is go to your Ford dealer and ask somebody to look it up
in the factory CD/manuals, or ask the parts counter guy if they have
access to the info.
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Ford Tech - 16 Jan 2007 06:03 GMT
>I had no idea this question would cause so much discussion....and expose
>the Ford Tech.
>
> Can anyone besides him comment on my dilemma?
>
> skimmer

Expose me? There is no exposure to be had. I dont come on here to make false
claims, but I admit I dont know everything so, I looked up the torque that
you requested on Fords website. The place where the info gets updated before
anything else. Do you need any thing clearer? I have already spelled it out
in black and white. If it were my vehicle, I would do exactly as I suggested
that you do. It's as simple as that. I would retorque the plugs to make sure
they were correct. Or you can give it your best guess and hope you didn't
screw it up. Its your vehicle.

Just so you all know, I didnt have access to Fords website when I changed
the head gaskets on my Ranger, and I used a Haynes manual and all is STILL
well a year later and almost 20,000mi. They work fine for the
do-it-yourselfer.. Changing plugs would be considered a do-it-yourself job.

I didnt realize we were going to be judging the size of everyone's manhood
in here. Sorry I have my testosterone levels in check. I am not here to
threaten anyone or try to make them look bad. I comment when I see wrong
info, and if I am wrong, I apologize an let the know that I was wrong, and I
try to agree with the person that was right.
Ford Tech
Ford Tech - 16 Jan 2007 06:15 GMT
> Can anyone verify the correct torque for spark plugs in a 99 navigator 5.4
> 32v?
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>
> skimmer

News Skimmer,

You have the info. Take it or leave it. You know where I got it, and if you
dont trust Ford Motor Company to post correct specs for your engine in their
service manuals, then thats your problem. My truck runs fine.

Ford Tech
News Skimmer - 17 Jan 2007 02:28 GMT
FT,

Your data may be from a great source.  But I've read your other posts and
I've convinced myself that any of your advise is suspect.

I don't intend to hurt your feelings, but you are not there yet. Don't give
up. But please recognize your limitations and set goals to overcome them.

skimmer

>> Can anyone verify the correct torque for spark plugs in a 99 navigator
>> 5.4 32v?
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>
> Ford Tech
Ford Tech - 17 Jan 2007 03:26 GMT
> FT,
>
> Your data may be from a great source.  But I've read your other posts and
> I've convinced myself that any of your advise is suspect.

I would post more links to my information, unfortunately the site is login
and password protected, and I am NOT about to give that out to the general
public as the site belongs to Ford Motor Company. Although I would love to
know what information I have posted that is "suspect". I am sure I can find
good quality links to back up the information that I have posted.

> I don't intend to hurt your feelings, but you are not there yet. Don't
> give up. But please recognize your limitations and set goals to overcome
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>>
>> Ford Tech
 
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